Love the looks of this SME arm , Satin black and silver :eyebrows:
Very nice
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SME-309-To...0AAOSwi7RZK-qa
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Love the looks of this SME arm , Satin black and silver :eyebrows:
Very nice
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SME-309-To...0AAOSwi7RZK-qa
Its very nice, I was thinking of buying one myself for my Pioneer turntable
At that price though I would just buy a new one.
Alan
Yup just found a new one online for £1,685, bit steep that for a secondhand item.
Uhhhh 'space age' pretty.
Just the thing for one's 1$ thrift store bought LP.
There's a 20 year old 309 on Hi fi for sale for £900, think he'd take less as well.
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Sorry, daftee, not my thing at all... Looks wise, something like this is more up my street:
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/924/vDjI8L.jpg
Stax UA-9. Simple, classic, lines! :)
Marco.
its lovely , subtle , not in your FACE :eek:
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Neither is the STAX in your face... Classic, almost Bauhaus, design.
Sorry, not a fan of modern SME magnesium arms. The only ones I like the looks of, from the current range, are the Series M2. In both 9 and 12" versions: https://sme.co.uk/audio/product/series-m2/
Noice... :cool:
The rest you can keep [and that also applies, sonically]! ;)
Marco.
The Series M2 in the looks department is somewhat Meeh , a bit ordinary / plain looking , maybe good in other areas I think you call that sonically :)
We just have different tastes on what we both think looks good. mate. No harm in that :)
I'm also much more of a fan of classic Japanese detachable headshell tonearms, such as my own Ortofon RS-212D:
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/922/ap90S7.jpg
Gorgeous! And (with the type of cartridges I like to use) pisses all over any modern SME arm I've heard! ;)
Marco.
Yes I do like the looks of those arms , very stylish :eyebrows:
I quite like the look of both the Stax and the SME. Ultimately I'm not keen on the big SME writing and prefer the all black colouring of the V. On the Stax I'm not keen on the polished metal which is a bit bling for me - I would prefer a satin finish.
Indeed, although not cheap! Having owned the 9" version for years, I can confirm that it sounds superb and that the build quality is the equal of anything SME :)
Marco.
The 300 series in black and silver looks a bit fussy for my taste. My 310 in silver looks better I think.
http://i1349.photobucket.com/albums/...pswwmdzdcl.jpg
Is that a 12" arm, Paul? If so, IMO, an M2-12R would aesthetically suit the Sony more: https://sme.co.uk/audio/product/series-m2-12r/
Or its 9" brother, the M2-9R... Better still, something quality and Japanese from the era, (S or Y-shaped, with a detachable headshell) :)
Vintage T/Ts need vintage (or vintage-style) arms! ;)
Marco.
And way over a thousand pounds dearer than it used to be, why ? SME have all the tooling, all paid for.
Anyway that is the finish I remember mine being, an early one and it sounded better too.
I don't disagree on the aesthetics of the M2-9R/M2-12R Marco. They're lovely looking arms. According the the seller of my turntable, at the time of its launch, the Japanese believed that the optimum arm length was 10" and like many of the big Japanese decks of the era my Sony was built to take a 10" arm. I bought the 310 because it is the only 10" arm that SME make other than the straight M2-10 which I think looks a bit odd.
The Sony could take a 9" or a 12" SME but in both cases would run out of room for full adjustment which could limit cartridge choice. I've seen reviews of the deck with a 309 mounted and I know Oldius uses an SME IV on his so it may not be much of an issue in practice.
I'm happy with the aesthetics of the deck/arm in the flesh but if I were looking for a suitable 10" vintage arm I'd be after a Sony PUA-9 or Fidelity Research FR-64.
Haha - yes, apologies for the earlier idiocy! :lol:
Marco.
Difficult to say what the optimum length should be. The tracking distortion varies as the inverse of the effective arm length, whereas the effective mass increases as the square of the length. Thus a 12" arm will display only 75% of the tracking distortion that a 9" arm produces, but its effective mass will be 78% greater.
I use arms varying in length from 9" to 12", with a couple of them being closer to 10" and 10.5".
Oooh! I do like those coloured lights.
Adam that is porn , I need Kleenex man size :D
Lovely indeed :eyebrows:
Sorry, I remain completely unmoved.... ;)
Marco.
Oh yes, that's LURVELY... But the tonearm does hee-haw for me.
I keep saying that vintage turntables deserve (quality) VINTAGE TONEARMS!! :ner:;)
Marco.
Since the Nakamichi was made for them by Micro Seikei, perhaps an arm from the latter would be be more appropriate? ;)
Yup, good call, Bazza! :thumbsup:
Marco.
We both like the Ortofon arms :)
Marco.
Good point, Paul. However, I'd say something quality that's no longer in production and LOOKS 'vintage' (read as, of its era)... Ignore me though, as I'd just not put anything else on a vintage Jap T/T, than a (quality) vintage Jap tonearm :)
Something like a nice FR-64, or a Micro-Sieki, or a classic broadcast arm from Denon or Audio Technica. Or something like this from SAEC:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SAEC-WE-308S...cAAOSwvg9Xd3Rh
Now *THAT* is bloody gorgeous! :stalks: :stalks:
Marco.
There's also the thing for me (and I'm not saying that this applies to you) of folk simply strapping SME arms onto T/Ts because they're a simple (decent sounding) option, and easily obtained, but with it, also common as muck...! ;)
It's probably the latter that turns me off them more than any aspect of their sound, as I like to be different and own things most others don't have, so in that respect am predisposed to admiring the obscure, rare or unusual. For me, that's all part of the attraction of owning vintage gear :)
Marco.
Yes, or rather wot Barry said. However, I don't own a genuinely vintage T/T. Perhaps if my Techy was the original one from 1972.... But, how many folk in the UK, who run a turntable, do you think own an RS-212D, or more so, its 12" brother?
I'd bet the total would be in single figures... Compare that with the many hundreds (if not thousands) of SME, Linn or Rega tonearms widely in use ;)
However, if I had the type of T/T Adam or you have, you can bet your boots I'd have fitted a tonearm that's both in keeping with the period of the T/T, and a little 'off the wall'... I don't do 'obvious choices'.
That said, the most important thing is that YOU are happy with the results achieved and enjoy the music! :)
Marco.
Jelco :)
Sure... It's just the styling I'm not into (undoubtedly a personal thing). And it's not just with hi-fi gear that I like to own something different from the norm, but with most things I buy or am into. One thing I've always hated is blindly following the herd!Quote:
:thumbsup: me too. You're right though SMEs don't fall in that category. 310s in silver are pretty hard to find though
Therefore, if something's in fashion, or as per the buzzword often used these days, 'on trend', I'm liable to do the opposite!! :D
Marco.
Despite having opted for the 310, I'm inclined to agree with you Marco. An arm like the FR64S would be more in keeping with the deck. Indeed I considered an FR64FX that was on ebay at the time I bought the deck. I went for the 310 because it was available and the FR64FX was too heavy for my cartridge at the time. Sadly timing is everything in these matters and my budget then wouldn't stretch to a new deck, arm and cartridge.
I agree that there is a certain pleasure to be derived from owning something lovely and rare like your arm. Indeed, while SME arms might be commonplace in themselves, I doubt there are any others in the country mounted on a TTS-8000 and carrying a Purpleheart NOS. :)
that seller has some lovely jap tonearms listed,the prices seem good to.
Absolutely, and like you say, the final choice is also cartridge dependent. As you probably know, I'm a 'high-mass/low-compliance man', which therefore significantly influences my choices in terms of carts and tonearms :)
Damn right, and I'm sure it's a superb sounding combo! Also, my tonearm may be rare in the UK, but probably ten-a-penny in Japan (or Denmark).Quote:
I agree that there is a certain pleasure to be derived from owning something lovely and rare like your arm. Indeed, while SME arms might be commonplace in themselves, I doubt there are any others in the country mounted on a TTS-8000 and carrying a Purpleheart NOS.
Marco.