I understand the concept, but still trying to figure out what the initials SPPV actually stand for ... :scratch:
Anyway ... another vote for the Klotz MC5000 interconnects.
Also, the Jelco SA 750D is whole lot of tonearm for the money imo.
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I understand the concept, but still trying to figure out what the initials SPPV actually stand for ... :scratch:
Anyway ... another vote for the Klotz MC5000 interconnects.
Also, the Jelco SA 750D is whole lot of tonearm for the money imo.
Sound Per Pound Value I presume.....
Taking into account the initial brief of the OP, which is fantastic products at amazing value for money, then my TC-7220 MKII amp/speaker selector deserves consideration as well. There are actually more owners of one of them than there are of the Bushmaster and Caiman combined.
The NVA Sound Cord Interconnects should get a position in the list. Plenty detail retrieval for beer money.
S.
Endorsed by whom?
As I see it, the whole point of the forum is to discuss products and have people voice their VARIED and CONTRADICTORY opinions of them.. You can't just sum up the initial, individual's opinions of gear in threads and discard the discussion around them and then endorse it as a "summary" of SPPV. OK, well you can do that but it's pissing over everything else IMHO.
Isn't there increased danger of shilling or kickbacks from manufacturers too? How could anyone tell?
Err... ? How many people who've listened to Firebottle's stuff, Arkless's (that Jez?) stuff would openly dare, socially, to criticise or declare it to be rubbish on AOS?
I can't see that their gear has ever had a fair and honest scrutiny on this forum simply because of the forum suicide, rebuttle and possibilly attack that would create.. more likely that people would keep their mouths shut or say something nice out of politeness (but not necessariily mean it).
Kind of looks like just helping mates out rather than an honest appraisal of SPPV to folks outside of regular AOS usership.
Perhaps a non-judgmental list of forum user's cottage industry products is more appropriate for that if one wants to actively promote cottage industry over and above other trade member's products?
Sam, that's complete bollocks, and in a way rather insulting, as it implies disingenuousness in those here who've nominated products, as a result of what you claim as "helping mates out". I can assure you that no products listed here have been mentioned for any reason other than that they fundamentally deliver the highest SPPV!
I mentioned equipment from Jez or Alan (Firebottle), in the context of high 'SPPV', because I've heard examples of their products in my own system, and compared/scrutinised them against other kit, some from commercial manufacturers costing considerably more, so I know from personal experience how highly they deliver on the SPPV front, hence me nominating them on this thread. And that will be exactly the same with others here who've nominated products from other manufacturers.
Therefore, it's got nothing whatsoever to do with "helping mates out". Many members here (and elsewhere), after having heard Arkless or Firebottle products in their own systems, have bought them with their hard-earned cash, indeed after having heard them significantly outperform commercial products, which they were using previously. Shelling out one's hard-earned cash is the biggest endorsement of all of a product's efficacy, which certainly wouldn't have happened had the kit in question not been any good, made by "mates" or not!
As such, I would have no qualms whatsoever giving, say, £1000 of my money either to Jez or Alan, to build me an amplifier or phono stage, and knowing that what I'd get back, in terms of sonic performance, would be superior to any £1k commercial item, and more likely the equivalent of something commercially produced costing considerably more.
And their respective talents as audio engineers aside, that's simply down to the fact that because they don't have the overheads of a commercial business to pay for, they can thus afford to use higher quality components in their products; more than any commercial manufacturer would be able to do with the same given budget, which is what delivering the highest 'SPPV' is all about.
As for this:
Well, the majority of the so-called "cottage industry products" nominated and mentioned on this thread are produced by trade members, so I'm not quite sure what the point is you're making?Quote:
Originally Posted by Audio Advent
A core part of the AoS ethos is supporting small audio manufacturers, whose products deliver the highest SPPV, and identifying new ones when suitable candidates emerge, for the benefit of our membership, so that with their systems, they can obtain the 'biggest bang for their buck'. *That* is one of the key foundations upon which this site was built.
As such, AoS will always be much more about that, than facilitating the interests of so-called commercial high-end audio, much of which is simply audiophile jewellery or overpriced 'badge-fi' for those with more money than sense. Therefore, as far as we're concerned, long-live the deliverers of high SPPV, the products of whom have been listed here, and those aimed at genuine enthusiasts and music lovers, not simply key-janglers and badge snobs who often buy audio equipment for all the wrong reasons.
Marco.