Ok is there another 4 members who fancy a MN bearing base plate ? Mike said If I can get 5 people minimum he may be willing to come out of retirement to do a limited run:D
If anyone is interested please tag onto this post
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Ok is there another 4 members who fancy a MN bearing base plate ? Mike said If I can get 5 people minimum he may be willing to come out of retirement to do a limited run:D
If anyone is interested please tag onto this post
Tbh, I wish I never added the base plate to mine.
I see you have a MN platter and this is only my opinion, not here to upset anyone.
I thought it sounded best with the MN Bearing, standard platter, Oyaide MJ-12 mat and weight.
If I had never had glued the BP in place I may still have the deck. I found it changed the sound of the 1210 with the BP & MN Platter, it lost it's sparkle that I always liked and sounded slower and more lumpy.
Just my advice, think carefuly before you glue, there's no going back.
KR
Andrew
Cheapskate that I am, I did the Cagey / Hugo inspirational idea of surrounding the bearing base, within the plastic well, in beeswax. I thought it a great little upgrade at the time. Never heard a base plate so couldn't offer comparisons.
Thanks for the advice. It gives me something to think about. As you say it's a no return modification I
f you don't like it.
No worries and no offence intended.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dubster68
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Very odd, not my experience at all and first I've heard of anything like that as a result of the base plate being fitted :scratch:Quote:
Originally Posted by allthingsanalogue
Non taken:DQuote:
Originally Posted by allthingsanalogue
Well due to a change in direction I will not be needing a base plate anymore. The MN bearing has now been removed and the standard one put back in. My modded parts are for sale as the SL1210 is back to standard. I used it today in standard form apart from the standard rewired sleeved arm. Though it sounded ok I was shocked how grainy it sounded with the original kit back on it. Just proves spending money on this turntable does give massive gains but at a cost.
What deck are you getting now?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dubster68
Still keeping the Technics Andy but trying out an SRM Athena turntable and up to now its a quality sound. Just ordered the upgraded PSU and 10mm platter that I have ben told makes a massive difference. Hence why I am selling the Techie stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by allthingsanalogue
Just noticed this post, after Mick bumped the thread earlier....
Lol - I couldn't disagree more!! When I fitted the base plate, the complete opposite effect was achieved: it made my T/T sound bigger and more musically together, as the BP allowed me to hear the full benefits of the MN bearing.Quote:
Originally Posted by allthingsanalogue
Subsequently, it moved the performance of my T/T on considerably, so much so that at the time I mentioned here that the bearing and BP should be purchased together, as that's the only way to hear the bearing at its best. The very LAST thing my Techy sounds like is slow and lumpy... :nono:
However, Andrew, you heard what you heard, and you're entitled to your opinion. May I ask which MN platter did you use, an ETP or the heavy aluminium one?
Marco.
Interesting, Mick. That's quite a change of direction. May I ask what prompted it - were you not happy with the sound of your modded Techy?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dubster68
Out of curiosity, how would you compare the sound of the SRM to the above? :)
Btw, the return to stock of your Techy, and what you heard, is deeply revealing, and as you say shows that none of us who've modded the Technics extensively have 'imagined' the sonic benefits it brings ;)
I wouldn't swap mine for anything else, or ever sell it, as it's unique. If I do get another T/T, it'll be to run alongside my Techy. The front contender for that is an Audio Grail modified Garrard 301, as at some point I want an idler in my life!
Marco.
Used to have an SRM. good decks.
They are indeed, but very different from a Technics.
Marco.
Cant deny, I love the Audio Grail decks, stripped and built like new from bottom up and just look class.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
Exactly, Rob. Not cheap, but hey what is in life that's truly special? :)
For me, anything *that* old (40-50 years) needs fettling by a professional, in order to ensure that it's performing at its MAXIMUM capability, as it did the day it left the factory (and perhaps even better). I'd do the exact same with an SP10 [a much more complicated prospect altogether], if I were ever to go down that route, and indeed could trust someone to do it right.
These types of vintage T/Ts are undoubtedly fantastic (as they were engineered to be 'cost no object'), but just like a classic car, you can't expect it to perform as it did when new without a bit of attention - and I'd never be satisfied unless I knew that I was hearing them at their BEST! :cool:
Marco.
This video encapsulates that concept perfectly, and illustrates why AG are *the* chaps for the job:
A BBC Hammertone grey is the one I'd go for, as I love their rather 'sombre' and purposeful look :)
Hey, it's the turntable that Tony Blackburn used to launch Radio 1!
Marco.
For those interested, I've found my review of the MN bearing baseplate, when it was first installed, and stand by every word:
See here :http://theartofsound.net/forum/showt...349#post559349
You'll note that it was rather different from the results Andrew obtained....
Marco.
Hi Chaps. Still love my 1210 and was very close to getting a Mk5G. I then decided I fancied a change in direction as my MK2 went as far as it could. Putting it back to standard has proved a point to me that though expensive the upgrades are worthwhile. Not taking anything away from a standard deck as they are amazing. But as I proved sonically it can be improved a great amount with the correct expensive mods. The 1210 is still here set up and will be going into my conservatory so I now have x2 turntables[emoji1305]. Back to the SRM it is a very good looking turntable. The sound was very pin point and clear. When I put my Ortofon Black cart on it sounded amazing straight away. The funny thing was the cart was a 2 minute fitment compared to the nightmare I had getting it set up on the Techie[emoji23][emoji23]. I have ordered the upgraded power supply and deeper 10mm Platter that I have been told transforms the turntable again. Only time will tell. Once my Techie parts are sold I will be upgrading the arm as it has a basic Rega 202 arm. Saying that from the start the arm has sounded pretty good so hoping for better things with an upgraded arm. So I am not deserting my 1210 as it’s an iconic thing that is still going strong after all these years.
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It was the ETP.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
Very weird then, Andrew. However, you heard what you heard - for whatever reason... :)
Marco.