You kill the fat, you kill the burger.
Unless you load it with salt and all sorts of flavour enhancing chemicals.
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You kill the fat, you kill the burger.
Unless you load it with salt and all sorts of flavour enhancing chemicals.
We used to have brains and faggots for school dinner sometimes.
Their parents never did find out what happened to them...
Lol - indeed. However, the key point lies within the bit in bold, in that your dad didn't *need* to introduce you to them, because most already existed in your home town, if you knew where to look!
The way you described it earlier, was that such things back then [e.g. Chinese food and chargrilled steaks] were virtually unknown to your average Scouser (including you, until suitably educated by your dad) - and it needn't have been that way if others and you had been a bit more adventurous and aware of what was happening around you!!;)
Marco.
Sure, but you're missing the point. You mentioned earlier about a 'group trip' into town to buy cheap tinned food (Fray Bentos pies for £1, etc). Well, my point is that the same 'group trip' into town, or wherever, could be done, but instead to buy (hopefully discounted) fresh produce from somewhere else in the same town.
If you're going to make a journey to go somewhere, then make it worthwhile. You mentioned taxis before, so they could all chip in together to pay for a taxi to the local supermarket and back. Most firms do attractive rates for pensioners.
Sorry to hear that, so for you that puts a different perspective on things. Have you considered on-line shopping? Supermarkets these days will deliver groceries to your door.Quote:
I have a spinal injury and find it very difficult if I have to make the journey by bus and carry back more than a few items.
I totally get that, although Wrexham will have changed considerably since you stayed there, and mostly for the better.Quote:
I know Wrexham well, as in my early career I was a consultant to the Robert Jones and Agnes Hunt Orthopaedic Hospital in Oswestry and used to stay in Wrexham when working there. It is much more rural here and hard to get to the supermarkets.
Sure, but that doesn't mean that they couldn't learn or change their ways if they wanted to, especially as it would be to their benefit in the long run.Quote:
As to knowledge of cooking, I would be taking my life in my hands if i suggested to my elderly neighbours how to shop for food or how to cook it. This is still a mining community even though the mines are all closed. Many of the residents are third, fourth or greater generation miners who know how to survive on a tight budget: they have done it all their lives. Many people locally are reliant on food banks and pay day loans.
It's essentially all about making whatever money you've got go as far as it can, and being as clever as possible with it [home economics]. And I'm sorry, in that respect, I don't buy the notion that the only solution is eating tinned processed food. That's rather lazy thinking.
Being stuck in your ways is no excuse not to try and better your life!
Yup, and it's not good for you, especially too much red meat. As for chicken, you're absolutely right, which is why I only buy genuine free-range chicken, which tends to be treated differently, preferably sourced from local farms. My wife is veggie, but she's quite happy to cook it for me:)Quote:
I agree with you about the excessive quantity of meat people eat. I did not eat meat for nearly 20 years and eat very little nowadays. I am also increasingly wary of chicken due to the contamination of meat and the extensive use of drugs to control infection.
Then the butcher concerned is not catering properly for the needs of the local community, which you said was largely poor, so one wonders how they've managed to stay in business? :hmm:Quote:
There is a family butcher shop in the village, that offer excellent locally farmed meat but they are not cheap.
Marco.
My point was not about FB Pies per se, but that the options for getting cheap protein in rural areas are limited and you cannot really get better in protein terms than a £1 pie, even if it is unappetising. Fresh produce is not a problem here as there is a little greengrocer in the village, and many people or their neighbours grow their own fruit and veg. In fact, there are local farmers that will deliver a huge sack of Lincolnshire potatoes for just a few quid. Of course, when the elderly neighbours go into town they do a full shop, not just a pie raid.
The village is not entirely poor, as new housing has brought in younger more prosperous residents. The village butcher survives because of this and because there are more affluent communities nearby and it is possible for shoppers to park easily in the village high street (no parking fees and lots of spaces).
I think the butcher offers good produce at good prices, but it is expensive for local farms to have livestock slaughtered and good rearing practices are more costly. Difficult to compete with the supermarket prices because the products are not comparable. However, you do get people buying sheep heads and pig feet for stews because that is all they can afford
I was in Wrexham a couple of years back and it is hardly rural.
Geoff
Sorry, I'd have to strongly disagree. For £1, if you know how to cook, and buy well, or use your own home-grown produce, you can create something with far more nutritional value, and that's infinitely more appetising and healthier to eat than a Fray Bentos pie, full of all sorts of processed crap.
So why don't they avail of those facilities, and use that fresh produce, instead of relying on buying processed food? Sorry, I don't get it :scratch:Quote:
Fresh produce is not a problem here as there is a little greengrocer in the village, and many people or their neighbours grow their own fruit and veg. In fact, there are local farmers that will deliver a huge sack of Lincolnshire potatoes for just a few quid.
So, as part of that 'full shop' they could buy some fresh produce to cook with, and not just tins of processed food? Again, I don't get it....... :confused:Quote:
Of course, when the elderly neighbours go into town they do a full shop, not just a pie raid.
Well that's not quite how you pitched things earlier, which was that it was largely an area populated by penniless pensioners!;)Quote:
The village is not entirely poor, as new housing has brought in younger more prosperous residents. The village butcher survives because of this and because there are more affluent communities nearby and it is possible for shoppers to park easily in the village high street (no parking fees and lots of spaces).
I never said it was. That's not the argument, although ten minutes in a car from town takes you into the countryside, and into some very rural areas.Quote:
I was in Wrexham a couple of years back and it is hardly rural.
Marco.