The whole process of going back to vinyl and analogue has been a giant leap forward for me:)
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The whole process of going back to vinyl and analogue has been a giant leap forward for me:)
The topic has already been hijacked, had a course change to Beirut, landed and is sitting on the airstrip in a stand off with security forces and police ;)
But this is a speaker renovation tread so discussion of crossovers and re-building them is pretty much back on topic I think.
Amen to that ;)
I've a few customers and friends who have now dropped digital as their premier sources and get way more satisfaction from analogue. Be that the tactile nature of the medium, the ritual of selecting and playing (getting off one's arse so to speak in order to play something), the visual stimuli, the sound or a combination of all of the above. When challenged by others about the perfection that is (sic) digital, and the surface noise of vinyl, one chap quoted John Peel, "Life has surface noise mate" :lol:
Answer to emulation: It can't be. It's an approximation.
Designs may be approximated too via cookbook recipes but they'll always be just that...ie approximations. things have moved on and most reputable speaker manufacturers measure things properly (and many always did). Why people insist that these things can be guessed is beyond me but there we are.
I'm not seeing any mud-slinging or confrontation, Paul. People are allowed to politely disagree with you even though you are a professional in this area. Your contribution and expertise are welcome but AoS is discussion forum not a lecture theatre. If anyone oversteps or has overstepped the bounds of politeness then please let me know.
My Magisters have exactly the same crossover board as my Magnums. And yet they have different size cabinets and different bass drivers. The tweeter and mids were also used in other designs. So either the bass drivers and cabinets were carefully designed to use the same crossover, mid and tweeter somehow or the design allowed for a certain amount of latitude in the final sound. The latter is what I believe and is why, in this case, I have allowed myself to take liberties with my Magisters.
I am not mud slinging either. My negativity against it is purely through experience in re-building many vintage X Overs throuh the years. I am fully aware of capacitors Specification through what i have read & learned on various electronics courses.
However the best Way to decide if a X-Over sounds right or has any ill effects with a full PP re-build is with my own earholes. As long as the original Cap value are used i see no potential danger to the original speaker design. Specifications must however count for something because some boutique caps sound aweful, some nice.
Upto now, i & other have had no issues so im afraid that the specification lark is swept under the carpet with me.
I think the problem, as is often the case on forums, is confident people with educated and experienced opinions in audio not giving due respect or credence to the contrary opinions of others who fall into the same or a similar category as they do, in terms of education and experience... ;)
However, I'm not singling anyone out here as the 'culprit'. Therefore, I shall say no more other than that, please guys, let's remember that on AoS no-one's opinion on any subject is ever any 'more special', 'more important' or 'correct' that that of anyone else. There are no ‘know-it-alls’ here. We’re on a continual learning curve together in this game.
I don't want to have any more chit-chat about that matter (indeed continued off-topic remarks will be removed without further warning); just simply bear in mind what I’ve said in future when contributing here to discussions.
Now let's return to the thread topic, which is the renovation of Celestion 66 Studio Monitors. Ken, it's back over to you... :cool:
Cheers!
Marco.
Excellent post.
The thing that annoys me about the truth of that post is that generally the facts will be disguised from your average 18 year old until they gain enough experience to realise it. Before they do, they'll probably waste countless £££s on modern gear when they could have done a lot better buying older kit.