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Tasuke
02-10-2010, 17:26
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i just happened across this, and, as i am an audiophile/gear enthusiast
that does my own self preventative maintenance on my equipment,
what this fellow has to say concerns me. opinions? please discuss;


"These are bottles of Liquid Bearings, the legendary oil that everyone has loved that has ever purchased it (please read our 100% positive feedback).These are brand new 1-fluid-oz. bottles with the characteristic needle dispenser tip.

This is the synthetic lubricant that consistently outperforms all others currently available. It attains DOUBLE the performance in the metal-to-metal grind tests of other oils, and has incredible low and high-temperature characteristics, which is absolutely necessary for proper audio system lubrication but completely lacking in petroleum-based oils. Don't use them on your audio machines any longer! Actual oils leave sticky deposits when the short-chain molecule components evaporate over time.

Petro-oils vs. synthetics:

Petroleum-based oils lack both the lubrication performance and oxidation stability of synthetics. Real oil is made up of a mixture of long and short chains of carbon and hydrogen atoms, and under certain conditions the short-chain molecules evaporate, and the unstable molecules oxidize and break down. This leaves a sticky residue which can actually “gum up” the device it was intending to lubricate. Conventional oils also contain varying amounts of impurities, such as sulfur, waxes, and unstable hydrocarbons which are left behind as residue deposits.

In contrast, synthetic oils are made using a process that re-arranges the structure so all the molecules are uniform in size, shape, and weight, an ideal phenomenon which does not occur in nature. While petroleum-based oils that are extracted from the ground must then be refined to attempt to minimize their shortcomings, synthetics are custom-designed to produce the ultimate lubricant, with inherent performance characteristics vastly superior to any petro-oil.

Using synthetics after using petro-oils:

It is perfectly safe to begin using Liquid Bearings on all your tape, CD, and audio equipment immediately, even if you have been lubricating it with conventional oils for years or decades. It is fully compatible with all vintage and current oils, and will eventually flush away the residue of the evaporated real oil over time. You will easily notice that all of your pivot points, slides, bearings, rollers, and gears will move easier with Liquid Bearings, especially if you have been using petroleum-based oil on them for years.

The odorless lubricant:

One of the most pleasing characteristics of Liquid Bearings is that it is engineered to be essentially odorless!! It is such a pleasure to work with your equipment and not have everything, including your clothing and hands, smelling of oil! Compare it to any other lubricant, petro or synthetic, and you will prefer working with Liquid Bearings!

Also, when you have been running your equipment for hours and it gets really warmed up, that familiar smell that comes from the hot bearings and motors is the petroleum products in the oil breaking down from the heat, and the short-chain molecules and impurities evaporating, which leaves behind the sticky residue deposits. Liquid Bearings maintains its molecular structure to over 500 degrees F, with no evaporation or breakdown, and hence no smell or residue.

Where to use it:

This fully synthetic proprietary blend is suitable for all audio equipment uses, whether on bearings and gears, friction points of mating or sliding metal parts, bushings, or general corrosion prevention. It does not contain any graphite or Teflon components, it will not attract or retain dirt and contaminants like petroleum-based oils do, and will never harm or soften any plastic or rubber components or painted surfaces.

Consumer alert:

Please note that there is a “synthetic oil” trick which some manufacturers are playing on consumers. Recently relaxed rules in the labeling and classifying of oil products now allow up to 30% of an oil to be derived from petroleum-based products and still call itself synthetic! Don’t be fooled! Liquid Bearings contains only 100% synthetic components and no petroleum products. It is an incredible lubricant that will also immediately begin to remove the deposits left by years of petroleum lubrication!"

Reid Malenfant
02-10-2010, 17:42
Well lets just put it like this ;) Modern high performance motorcycles & a good deal of high performance car engines require synthetic oil because of the much better lubrication & higher temperature rating etc. They aren't recommended to run on petroleum based oil as it just won't take the punishment.

The chap selling the stuff isn't talking cobblers, synthetics are superior & a hell of a lot more expensive :eek: 4.0L (which is what my 1000CC bike needed in the engine) would cost about £5 back in the day, at the same time synthetic stuff cost over that for 1L :lolsign:

So can i ask what it is than concerns you, as you didn't make this clear at all, in fact you didn't mention it :eyebrows:

Alex_UK
02-10-2010, 18:06
Synthetic is better. End of. :)

Marco
03-10-2010, 06:44
I use nothing else to lubricate the chains on the gimps in my dungeon :eyebrows:

Marco.

theophile
05-11-2010, 04:09
I use nothing else to lubricate the chains on the gimps in my dungeon :eyebrows:

Marco.

Does this have a bearing upon anything? :ner:

StanleyB
05-11-2010, 08:05
My car engine needs synthetic oil, or it would seize up otherwise. I have used some of that oil on my tirntables etc with good effect. If it can withstand the kind of temperatures and high speed abuse one would find in a car engine, it will perform flawlessly anywhere else.