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[The Vinyl Adventure]

What are good options for biwireable cable since that might help a touch with my boxy sounding speaker situation?

[Mike]

Loudspeaker cables are the work of the Devil! :steam:

[Ali Tait]

What lengths do you need Hamish?

[The Vinyl Adventure]

Well, I quite like to keep them the same length so they are easy enough to resell and for the fact that I have always been under the impression it is sensible even though I have since read it doesn't really make any odds?? So I guess 2 sets of 2.5- 3m would give me reasonable room for manouver

[Stratmangler]

6A mains flex is cheap enough to play with and throw away if it's no good.

[The Vinyl Adventure]

Sorry im gonna highjack my own thread a sec hear, got one of ltj bukems good looking records 'earth' compliations on now.. What a difference this change round has made to to the sound ... I seem to have even lost some of a kind of wierd trebble scattyness I had before ... I think it must be haing the speakers ferther apart?

[Ali Tait]

I can post you a set of Twisted Twins made from CAT5 cable.They're very good IMO.3m length and configured for biwire.

[The Vinyl Adventure]

Excelent, that would be great, of that's ok, for sale or trial? I've read about cat5 as speaker cable on some diy forum somewhere some chap was ranting and raving like he had reinvented the bloody wheel!! I even looked into trying to make some but decided I was likely to balls it up after failing misserably to make a network cable for my house

[Ali Tait]

Gratis mate.Try it,if you like it,keep it.If you don't,send it back.PM your address.

[The Vinyl Adventure]

Nice one buddy, that's really good of ya! Pm comin!

[Alex_UK]

I can send you some QED Silver Anniversary f.o.c. ...or not! :eyebrows:

[Stratmangler]

http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.jsp?action=detail&fh_secondid=9290554&fh_view_size=10&fh_location=%2f%2fcatalog01%2fen_GB&fh_search=arctic+flex&fh_eds=%C3%9F&fh_refview=search&ts=1272753682715&isSearch=true

[Tarzan]

2.5mm T&E ......and l am not joking.

[kreacherx]

:scratch:Cat5? I have loads of cat5e cable! is there any configuration I need to make it in? :)

[The Vinyl Adventure]

http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.jsp?action=detail&fh_secondid=9290554&fh_view_size=10&fh_location=%2f%2fcatalog01%2fen_GB&fh_search=arctic+flex&fh_eds=%C3%9F&fh_refview=search&ts=1272753682715&isSearch=true

Why 3 core?

[Stratmangler]

Why 3 core?

They don't do it in 2 core or 4 core.:)
Just leave one of the cores disconnected at both ends.

[Ali Tait]

:scratch:Cat5? I have loads of cat5e cable! is there any configuration I need to make it in? :)

Have a look here-

http://www.tnt-audio.com/clinica/triple_t_e.html

[Ali Tait]

Hamish,just fought my way up into the loft and rescued the cables.Will be posted to you tomorrow.

[The Vinyl Adventure]

Excelnt, good man, thank you again!! Fingers crossed for me...

[Ali Tait]

Be interesting to see what you make of them.Tell us what you think (be honest!) then I'll tell you how much they cost to make...

[kreacherx]

I am still ferreting around for cable & found some QED 79 strand! how does that compare nowadays? Don't want to cut up my Audioquest blue just to have 2x 2m runs!:(

[The Vinyl Adventure]

I can send you some QED Silver Anniversary f.o.c. ...or not! :eyebrows:

I only just noticed this ... Il take the qed alex but when you send it put a chrisp £20 note in with them ... You get my drift? You would have to pay me! :)

[colinB]

Ive just got some new Merlin cable which despite my cable sceptism are really working for me. I have Chord oddessey biwire cable your welcome to if you want to give em a try.

[Alex_UK]

I only just noticed this ... Il take the qed alex but when you send it put a chrisp £20 note in with them ... You get my drift? You would have to pay me! :)

Well don't say I didn't offer! :eyebrows: Some people, I don't know, no gratitude... ;)

Good luck with your experiments, all part of the learning curve.

[The Vinyl Adventure]

:lol: no bloody respect the youth of today eh ;)
I did actually try my qed silver aniversary set (I use them in my upstairs hifi :o )
very different respose to in the naim set up, in the naim set up, they sounded dull compared to the nva, I'm this set up they sounded sorta sharp for want of a better word ... Cheers though alex :)

[DSJR]

QED SA did sound (almost) ok when wired with the writing on it going BACK to the amp, but I still cannot understand how a reasonable gauge wire affected the sound so much. i mean, the signal is an AC signal and direction *shouldn't* have an effect - it doesn't so much with decent wires I noticed.....

[The Vinyl Adventure]

Be interesting to see what you make of them.Tell us what you think (be honest!) then I'll tell you how much they cost to make...

initial impressions are really good matey concidering they have replaced over £100 of nva cable. If anything I'd say they sound slightly more clinical which is perhaps a good thing... At least that's a first impresion ... Still a hint of boxyness ... Il listen more and do a more direct comparison when I haven't got such massive head ache, but for now il leave it at the fact if I had paid what I paid for the nva I don't think I'd question it, so far at least Big thumbs up... Cheers again buddy!
Hannah's first reaction was quite funny... "Whoa what's that, where's that going?" But now they are in place, I think she likes the colour!! :)

[Ali Tait]

That was quick! They were posted yesterday afternoon from Aberdeen!

Glad you like them mate.Not bad for 25 quid ay?

[The Vinyl Adventure]

That is quick! Odly they didn't come with the normal post, but apeared on the doorstep at about 4ish ...
So, how did you find them in systems you used?
I'm wondering how much benefit the biwire aspect of them is concidering what chris said about pmc's and biwireing

[Ali Tait]

I found them pretty much an all round improvement when I first made them,though I haven't used them in a long time as they are too capacitative for my statics.I also have some NVA which sounds good,and also some DNM,which I'm using at the moment.That's also very good.I've got a pair of black mamba's tucked away too.I need to compare all these,keep the best,and sell the others.No time though...