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DevillEars
14-02-2010, 14:03
The picture below shows the components and connections between them and to the mains:

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae93/DevillEars/AudioSystemDiag-Feb09-800x600.jpg

Dave

DevillEars
14-02-2010, 14:05
Something of an appetiser?

http://s961.photobucket.com/albums/ae93/DevillEars/My%20Main%20Audio%20System%20-%202010/th_System.jpg (http://s961.photobucket.com/albums/ae93/DevillEars/My%20Main%20Audio%20System%20-%202010/?action=view&current=a557bf2f.pbw)

Dave

DevillEars
14-02-2010, 14:11
Different angle views:

Full frontal?

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae93/DevillEars/My%20Main%20Audio%20System%20-%202010/MainSystem-1.jpg

Side view from left:

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae93/DevillEars/My%20Main%20Audio%20System%20-%202010/MainSystem-2.jpg

Side view from right:

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae93/DevillEars/My%20Main%20Audio%20System%20-%202010/System.jpg

Dave

DevillEars
14-02-2010, 14:16
Vinyl (natch):

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae93/DevillEars/My%20Main%20Audio%20System%20-%202010/LP12.jpg

Cart?

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae93/DevillEars/My%20Main%20Audio%20System%20-%202010/Kontrapunkt.jpg

Digital (CD):

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae93/DevillEars/My%20Main%20Audio%20System%20-%202010/ThetaCdtDac.jpg

HDD-based digital (linked to DAC):

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae93/DevillEars/My%20Main%20Audio%20System%20-%202010/CDR1300.jpg

Radio (FM only):

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae93/DevillEars/My%20Main%20Audio%20System%20-%202010/RT03.jpg

Dave

DevillEars
14-02-2010, 14:19
Pre-amp (Classe' CP-500 with touch screen interface):

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae93/DevillEars/My%20Main%20Audio%20System%20-%202010/CP500.jpg

Power amps (Jeff Rowland Model 201 - ICEpower-based):

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae93/DevillEars/My%20Main%20Audio%20System%20-%202010/Model201.jpg

Dave

Spectral Morn
14-02-2010, 14:22
What a nice looking system and room. Real attention to detail in the set up as well.

The Yamaha is a great item. I have one myself, linked to the Dac section of my Moon Andromeda.

I love the old Jeff Rowland amplifiers from years ago (20), but not heard anything more recent though.


Regards D S D L

DevillEars
14-02-2010, 14:22
Speakers are 15 year-old Tannoy D700s (and will remain):

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae93/DevillEars/My%20Main%20Audio%20System%20-%202010/D700R.jpg http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae93/DevillEars/My%20Main%20Audio%20System%20-%202010/D700L.jpg

Interconnects (PS Audio Transcendent - silver):

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae93/DevillEars/My%20Main%20Audio%20System%20-%202010/PSAInter.jpg

Power cords & mains filter/strip (more PS Audio):

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae93/DevillEars/My%20Main%20Audio%20System%20-%202010/PSAPower.jpg

Speaker cables (also PS Audio - bi-wire):

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae93/DevillEars/My%20Main%20Audio%20System%20-%202010/PSASpeaker.jpg

Dave

DevillEars
14-02-2010, 14:26
... an essential adjunct to vinyl replay. This SOTA's record cleaning machine (was the cheapest motorised unit available at the time). Worth every penny!!

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae93/DevillEars/My%20Main%20Audio%20System%20-%202010/SotaRcm.jpg

This RCM is kept in the study as the vacuum pump makes a hell of a din when operating (operation restricted to when SWMBO out of the house)... :)

John
14-02-2010, 14:34
Lovelly looking set up!! You really gone out to keep everything as tidy as you can
I tried those heavy PS audio speaker cables but had the issues with connections breaking

DSJR
14-02-2010, 14:34
Lovely layout..

Mike Reed
14-02-2010, 14:34
It looks like

a) you are bi-amping (J.R.s must be stereo chassis, then)

b) you have a similar three pin socket system to us

c) you have a 'master' mains block which is plugged in to a switched socket

d) Your cart. is too deep for your Tiktok, and

e) you'll do well on this forum with big Tannoys.

Fascinating stuff, Dave.

DevillEars
14-02-2010, 14:47
It looks like

a) you are bi-amping (J.R.s must be stereo chassis, then)

b) you have a similar three pin socket system to us

c) you have a 'master' mains block which is plugged in to a switched socket

d) Your cart. is too deep for your Tiktok, and

e) you'll do well on this forum with big Tannoys.

Fascinating stuff, Dave.

Hi Mike,

Bi-wired only - the JRs are monoblocs

The 3-pin mains connections are made using Type M (15 amp 3-pin round unfused) so similar but not quite the same.

Unswitched sockets are illegal here - severe penalties for non-compliance!

Deep? You lost me!

Lurv dem Tannoys!

Dave

Barry
14-02-2010, 14:56
Welcome to AoS, Dave.

Some good gear you have got there. The combination of Tannoy speakers with a Linn LP12 should raise some eybrows with a certain member here!



Note to Mike Reed:

1 The old 15A round pin system is still used in those countries where the British had some 'influence': South Africa, India, Pakistan, Malaysia etc.

2
Your cart. is too deep for your Tiktok
Does the Ittok not have any adjustment of pillar height, or do you run out of range for deep cartridges, like the Ortofon Kontrapunct series?

Regards

twelvebears
14-02-2010, 15:01
Some good gear you have got there. The combination of Tannoy speakers with a Linn LP12 should raise some eyebrows with a certain member here

Who can you possibly be talking about Barry? :eyebrows:

Welcome to AOS Dave.

DevillEars
14-02-2010, 15:02
Welcome to AoS, Dave.

Some good gear you have got there. The combination of Tannoy speakers with a Linn LP12 should raise some eybrows with a certain member here!



Note to Mike Reed:

1 The old 15A round pin system is still used in those countries where the British had some 'influence': South Africa, India, Pakistan, Malaysia etc.

2
Does the Ittok not have any adjustment of pillar height, or do you run out of range for deep cartridges, like the Ortofon Kontrapunct series?

Regards

Thanks for the welcome, Barry.

The Ittok does have VTA adjustment via an Allen-headed locking screw. Cartridge installation was done by a Linn-trained dude who pronounced it correctly set-up. The range of adjustment is governed more by dustcover clearance than pillar height range. This is juuusssttt okay!

PS: Good job your surname wasn't Hatchet! ;)

Dave

DevillEars
14-02-2010, 15:04
Who can you possibly be talking about Barry? :eyebrows:

Welcome to AOS Dave.

Greetings oh Dozen Ursae! Many thanks for the welcome!

Dave

Barry
14-02-2010, 15:12
Thanks for the welcome, Barry.

The Ittok does have VTA adjustment via an Allen-headed locking screw. Cartridge installation was done by a Linn-trained dude who pronounced it correctly set-up. The range of adjustment is governed more by dustcover clearance than pillar height range. This is juuusssttt okay!

PS: Good job your surname wasn't Hatchet! ;)

Dave

:lolsign:

I have never heard that joke before. Love it! Usually people suggest first names that would make an 'unfortunate' and embarrasing combination with my last name. :doh:

Regards

DevillEars
14-02-2010, 15:24
:lolsign:

I have never heard that joke before. Love it! Usually people suggest first names that would make an 'unfortunate' and embarrasing combination with my last name. :doh:

Regards

That was one of those "too obvious/been there, done that" routes - also, I leave that type of behaviour to certain denizens of PFM.

PS: One aspect of AoS I hope to find is a total absence of "Naimophilia"...

Dave

Spectral Morn
14-02-2010, 15:29
That was one of those "too obvious/been there, done that" routes - also, I leave that type of behaviour to certain denizens of PFM.

PS: One aspect of AoS I hope to find is a total absence of "Naimophilia"...

Dave

Pretty much...wee bit but not much ;) A few born again valve users here, who came from Naim kit (not naming anyone..but they, and we know who they are)...they are pretty evangelical about valves, Tannoys (one is) and Technics 1210 TTs :lol::lol::lol::lol:oh yes and TDA1541 Dacs (must admit I fall into that one, a wee bit)


Regards D S D L

alfie2902
14-02-2010, 15:41
Welcome,

Very nice set-up!

I love the Tannoy D700s :)

Loving your avatar too!! Jeri Ryan as 7 of 9 :eyebrows:

DevillEars
14-02-2010, 16:31
I love the Tannoy D700s :)


There's a story behind those D700s...

I first heard them in a local dealer here in Johannesburg but the price was way beyond my means, so stuck with Tannoy 613s.

Then in late 1994, the wife and I plus the younger daughter flew to the UK for a 2-week holiday. After a week and half of visiting art galleries and museums, we wound up in Oxford. Handing the wife a map which showed where we were, where she needed to go and how to get back, and then I set off to hunt up audio dealers where I could perv over some decent gear.

Strolling down a side street, I spotted an audio dealer and popped in to see what they had. The first aspect that struck me was the crampedness of the premises - here in SA our dealers run to fairly spacious premises. Then it struck me - the rental per sq meter in a city like Oxford must be horrendous.

Anyway, in their one small demo area, and connected to a set of Naim electronics (no-one's perfect), were this pair of D700s. Carefully avoiding any overt signs of excitement, I started to discuss them with the store-owner.

Now, 1994 in the UK had been a rough year, economically speaking, and it turned out that this Oxford dealer had, in February, bought the D700s from Tannoy using an overdraft facility and nine months later (Nov) here he was still sitting with them and bank manager climbing all over him.

I had told him that I was from South Africa and that I was scheduled to fly home the next day.

He then told me that he was so desperate to get his bank off his back, that he was willing to part with them for he had paid for them plus his freight costs from Scotland.

So, I asked him to give me a number and would, when I got back to SA, check out what my freight and import costs would be, and - once I'd done my homework - would get back to him by the next Wednesday.

The number he put on the table was 1100 quid.

When I got back I had a chat with a colleague/mate who handled all our company's equipment air shipments and, for a bottle of Glenfiddich, he arranged for the D700s to be shipped as part of the next large consignment at no cost to me. All I had to pay was the road transport from Oxford to Heathrow.

Needless to say, this had become something of a 'no-brainer', so rang the dealer in Oxford and asked him if the D700s were still available, he said they were so I told him we had a deal. I arranged for the funds to be transferred.

The came one of the longest waits I can remember...

Finally, in February 1995, they had cleared customs and were ready for collection.

15 years later, I have absolutely no regrets and wouldn't swop them for any speakers I've yet heard at up to 3x the list price.

:)

Dave

Mike Reed
14-02-2010, 17:34
What's with this Naim thing, Dave? Is it a personal dislike, or just the plethora of pro and anti Naim threads which pop up on PFM? You won't hear too many Naims mentioned here (as I keep my trap shut!).

I do believe I might know that diminutive and unprepossessing shop in Oxford, or at least I frequently used to pop in to one which meets that description.

From the central shopping area, down a winding street which finished at a fire station. Shop on the right just before, in a dirty red-brick building.

Mike Reed
14-02-2010, 17:44
Welcome to AoS, Dave.





Note to Mike Reed:

1 The old 15A round pin system is still used in those countries where the British had some 'influence': South Africa, India, Pakistan, Malaysia etc.

2
Does the Ittok not have any adjustment of pillar height, or do you run out of range for deep cartridges, like the Ortofon Kontrapunct series?

Regards


Thanks, BARRY.

I didn't know that, but remember the British round pin plugs (5 and 15 amp) well. The 13 amp system can't be THAT old, I guess. These 15 amp plugs/sockets were all the audio rage in the eighties/nineties, costing lots, but the fad died out, I think.

You knew what I meant by 'too deep', but it was probably the camera angle which distorted the horizontal aspect of the arm.

DevillEars
14-02-2010, 17:55
What's with this Naim thing, Dave?

Hi Mike,

Its probably more of a reaction to the plethora of posts - often to the exclusion of all else - on PFM. It was beginning to really get up my nostrils to the point where I was seriously considering not bothering to pop in there.

I've sat and listened to 3 or 4 different Naim setups and, while finding them quite pleasant, none of them really got me that involved. So, I tend to also ponder the attraction and to begin to question whether or not the tidal wave of Naimophilia on PFM is more to do with some religious faith-based passion than anything else.

Anyway, I will cease and desist from Naim-bashing as I think I've managed to get it off my chest (for which I have you to thank... ).

Dave

PS: Naim-dropping should be encouraged - more so if from a height of >20ft

:ner:

:cool:

Barry
14-02-2010, 18:16
That was one of those "too obvious/been there, done that" routes - also, I leave that type of behaviour to certain denizens of PFM.

PS: One aspect of AoS I hope to find is a total absence of "Naimophilia"...

Dave

Here on AoS, we like to think that we are a 'cut above' many of the other audio forums out there. Mind you, that does not stop the humour becoming, at times, distinctly 'laddish'.

Regards

DSJR
14-02-2010, 18:20
If the aim of High Fidelity is to get as close to what's really there on the recording as possible, then much vintage Naim isn't High Fidelity - simple as that. It took the 52 before Naim made a truly decent and universal preamp (just compare one to a 12/22/42/32/72/102/92/122 etc. to find out) and even that can be bettered for a few hundred quid nowadays. The least said about most of the CB and Olive power amps (apart from 135's) the better IMO...

By the way, the Ittok has a deeper headshell than the Ekos or Akito and will physically accommodate most cartridges, if not sonically when used on a typical 1990 era fruitbox...


P.S. I'm not really anti-Naim, but I sold the stuff from 1976 until 2004 and know the quirks and obvious limitations rather well by now. I cannot understand why some people buy a knackered old 32.5 and treat it like it was made last week, despite the fact that the internal caps were cheapo cr@p to start with and are certainly well past their best now...

Stop dave, my mind is going...I can feel it..... I'm afraid...............

Mike Reed
14-02-2010, 18:31
Hi Mike,

Anyway, I will cease and desist from Naim-bashing as I think ...........

....... Naim-dropping should be encouraged - more so if from a height of >20ft

:cool:


Wouldn't the end result be more or less the same?

Themis
14-02-2010, 19:09
Its probably more of a reaction to the plethora of posts - often to the exclusion of all else - on PFM. It was beginning to really get up my nostrils to the point where I was seriously considering not bothering to pop in there.

I've sat and listened to 3 or 4 different Naim setups and, while finding them quite pleasant, none of them really got me that involved. So, I tend to also ponder the attraction and to begin to question whether or not the tidal wave of Naimophilia on PFM is more to do with some religious faith-based passion than anything else.

Reflects my opinion, too, I must say. ;)

Very nice setup, btw Dave ! :)

Steve Toy
14-02-2010, 21:47
Naim make one great hi-fi system - the CD555/NAC552/NAP500 into speakers of choice. Anything below that is just a compromise.

There is life after Naim and it can even be thermionic without sounding warm 'n cuddly.