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Barry
22-06-2010, 11:32
It's pretty cheap at the moment too for an EMT! Unless some 'big guns' come in right at the end, this will indeed be a veritable 'Bargain on eBay' :eek:

Marco.

It went for £1434. That's about the going rate for the 948. Shame it didn't come with an EMT cartridge.

Regards

Alex_UK
22-06-2010, 14:30
Anyone know much about the JBE Turntable, especially the Series 3 here on ebay? (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270595140895&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_684wt_930)? (I suspect DSJR will, I saw his moniker pop up on another site, after a quick google.)

In theory - Slate plinth, Direct Drive, external PSU, stylish (if you like the 70s...) - plenty to get excited about, and some interesting info on this site (http://www.jbe-turntables.co.uk/#) (the letters in the Press Section (http://www.jbe-turntables.co.uk/#/press-reviews/4541266532) from the Tom Evans, MD of JBE are worth reading even if you're not remotely interested in the turntable!)

Are they any good? Anyone got one? What are they worth?

DSJR
22-06-2010, 15:57
It depends on the motor JBE were using at the time. the early Matsushita OEM drive hunted and slowed badly under any load over a 1.25g tracking weight. The later drives were fine in this and by the late 70's this should have been the case.

I'd regard the JBE as a good Rega alternative. it did sound good (with a dated late seventies sound) fitted with a Mayware Formula 4 mkIV and Sonus Blue. KJW1 sold loads of these at one point until we took on Linn and all but ditched everything else..

By the way, did you see which arms they were using on the LP12, STD and JBE at the show where they compared all three? SME III's......

I rest my case...

hifi_dave
22-06-2010, 19:12
IMO not a good example of a DD turntable. We had one in the shop when they were all the go with a certain reviewer and we never managed to sell one except the demo model around 18 months later and that was at trade..:doh:

It looked interesting and at the right price might be an alternative to a Rega Planar-2.

Alex_UK
22-06-2010, 20:17
Cheers Daves, Interesting that you both cite it as a Rega alternative, so with no arm/cartridge, treble figures would be silly, I guess. I don't need it, (or really have a use for it), but since when did that stop any of us? :)

hifi_dave
23-06-2010, 19:23
No, when the bug bites you just can't stop..:eyebrows:

I keep buying vintage tuners, amps, reel to reels and the occasional turntable but I've got nowhere to put it all...:doh:

goraman
25-06-2010, 22:26
I bought these on Ebay for spare parts, I have a list of mods after years of trying different things with them.
I have never heard a headphone includeing electrostatic modles with a more expansive soundstage. I belive them to be some of the best headphones ever made and a well kept secret.

The Grand Wazoo
25-06-2010, 23:04
Good God!
Is that a pair of headphones or something you buy after you're tired of people kicking sand in your face!? I bet those springs take some breaking in!

I don't believe many pairs of those will have made there way over here, why don't you tell us about them?

goraman
26-06-2010, 18:24
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390184602393&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

I meant to post this I just got another pair!

In the 70's we lived very far out in the sticks by a large lake,we did have a couple of very cool FM Rock stations and even then i was an audio freak with little to no freinds close by so I spent hours and hours with these SuperX headphones and KLH modle 6 speakers.Some times I would listen to music from 4:00pm till 1:30am on school nights and weekends,summer vacation was sometimes an all night thing till early morning.
So they have a place no other headphones can touch.They still have a following and don't last long on ebay.They are known for there ability to play very low bass and there increadable 3D sound stage.
THey are not as heavy as they look,they are a 2 way desighn with a simple crossover. And haveing owned alot of very good headphones they are still my favorite for serious listening.I use a tube headphone amp with both them and my Grado 325i's and they just kill the Grados for imaging,bass and far less forward not so in your face as the Grados.
If you can find a pair get them you will be very happy for not much money in 1968 -1970 they where $70.00 to $90.00 depending on if you lived on the east or west coast. They are increadably over built and built to stand the hair up on your arms.The engauging factor is a 10!
The company built the best in there day but refused to advertise and a new company Koss made there product cheaper and had an increadable marketing campain and an active sales department.
Lack of dealers sent Superex out of buisness not long after they made some very fine electrostatic phones still a major rarity to colletors today.
The pro studio B is the pair to find,they are always gray in color,this modle was the raved favorite of every Radio Jock for years.The details these cans will bring can cause you to play a song over and over.

The best way to discribe the sound is like Tannoy Westminsters strapped to your head.

Rare Bird
05-07-2010, 10:28
Bagged another Minto Ferrograph 'F307 Mk.II' this morning £25.00

:sofa:

Alex_UK
05-07-2010, 10:38
Nice one Andre, and backs up my point (on the other thread) that most ebay bargains come when people do stupid things - that Ferrograph wasn't even listed in an Electronics category, never mind Hifi! (Collectables > Vintage/ Retro > 1960s)

You would only find it otherwise searching directly...

Rare Bird
05-07-2010, 10:40
Aye my eyes are all over the place :lolsign:

The best ones are when people spell the brand name wrong :)

quadsugdenman
05-07-2010, 11:34
Bagged another Minto Ferrograph 'F307 Mk.II' this morning £25.00

:sofa:

Nice one Andre!!! ;) How the heck did you find that one!!!!

Rare Bird
05-07-2010, 11:35
Nice one Andre!!! ;) How the heck did you find that one!!!!

:lolsign:

Won myself a tidy Target two shelver yesterday for £9.99.. I'll dump the black ash shelves for a pair of granite jobbies complete with all stainless steel spikes..bobs yer uncle..

Jonboy
05-07-2010, 16:24
Does anyone know about these direct drive TT's


JVC (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/JVC-QL-70-DIRECT-DRIVE-TURNTABLE-TT-71-SPARES-REPAIR-/140423769370?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_Turntables&hash=item20b1e8ad1a)

Trio (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TRIO-KD-500-DIRECT-DRIVE-TURNTABLE-SME-CUT-OUT-/140421136416?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_Turntables&hash=item20b1c08020)

Rare Bird
05-07-2010, 16:27
Out of the two i'd go for the Trio with the resin body

Jonboy
05-07-2010, 18:02
Cheers matey,are they worth a punt of should i hang on for something better? they are only a couple of streets away from where i live, did you see what else he had for saleas well?

Rare Bird
05-07-2010, 18:08
Cheers matey,are they worth a punt of should i hang on for something better? they are only a couple of streets away from where i live, did you see what else he had for saleas well?

Well if that Trio goes cheap great, it would sound great with an original Mission '774' but i guess wouldnt match asthetically..You used to see alot of SME 3009 fitted to em..

Mothman
05-07-2010, 19:47
I've been trying to put together a cheap system for my spare room\office and last night managed to secure the last component on fleabay an A60 amp which l still have to collect. Would you credit it, today this appears on my local gumtree which would probably have been perfectly acceptable, saved me a few quid and all the hassle of touring the south of England picking up components.http://reading.gumtree.com/reading/50/61646550.html

I think its whats known as Sod's Law:lolsign:

The Grand Wazoo
05-07-2010, 19:53
Snap it up anyway - then offer the parts to your fine friends on AoS. Then if there's anything left stick it on Ebay. Got no sense of entrepreneurship?!!

DSJR
05-07-2010, 19:54
Does anyone know about these direct drive TT's


JVC (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/JVC-QL-70-DIRECT-DRIVE-TURNTABLE-TT-71-SPARES-REPAIR-/140423769370?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_Turntables&hash=item20b1e8ad1a)

Trio (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TRIO-KD-500-DIRECT-DRIVE-TURNTABLE-SME-CUT-OUT-/140421136416?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_Turntables&hash=item20b1c08020)

I'd agree with Andre. The KD500 can be made to sound fantastic, but I don't know if the motor suffers the servo overshoot if your tracking weight ventures too high.. The JVC suffered with its plinth as I remember (a HUGE problem with many of these decks), but modern tonearms and careful siting may fix it.

Mothman
05-07-2010, 20:20
Snap it up anyway - then offer the parts to your fine friends on AoS. Then if there's anything left stick it on Ebay. Got no sense of entrepreneurship?!!

Watch this space;)

Mothman
05-07-2010, 20:34
It's still available and I will view tomorrow. I fancies the amp for myself but not sure if the Denon tuner or Philips CDP would be saleable, what do you think?

DSJR
05-07-2010, 21:38
I've been trying to put together a cheap system for my spare room\office and last night managed to secure the last component on fleabay an A60 amp which l still have to collect. Would you credit it, today this appears on my local gumtree which would probably have been perfectly acceptable, saved me a few quid and all the hassle of touring the south of England picking up components.http://reading.gumtree.com/reading/50/61646550.html

I think its whats known as Sod's Law:lolsign:

The A60 is a lovely old amp. for LP's, get an old Rega, a good cheap CD player (NAD's - the 5*** models - are pretty good as a breed if ugly as hell) and any reasonable classic speakers will match it

Rare Bird
05-07-2010, 21:45
The A60 is a lovely old amp. for LP's, get an old Rega, a good cheap CD player (NAD's - the 5*** models - are pretty good as a breed if ugly as hell) and any reasonable classic speakers will match it

The Heybrook 'HB-1' sound great with the A&R 'A60'

Alex_UK
05-07-2010, 21:55
It's still available and I will view tomorrow. I fancies the amp for myself but not sure if the

Denon tuner (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Excellent-DENON-TU-260L-Analogue-Hifi-AM-FM-Tuner-MINT-/120589511940?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_Tuners&hash=item1c13b1ed04#ht_1995wt_1137) or

Philips CDP (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Philips-CD610-CD-Deck-Remote-and-Operation-Manual-/300440469344?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_CDPlayerSep arates&hash=item45f3a5bf60#ht_500wt_1154)

would be saleable, what do you think?

The links show what 2 Very Good ones went for - so bank on making no more than £10-15 on ebay I'd say...

A Rotel RA-820AX went for £36 yesterday B.I.N. (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Rotel-RA-820-Stereo-integrated-Amplifier-high-quality-/230488631959?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_Amplifiers&hash=item35aa316a97#ht_5635wt_1137) - so £40 for the lot is about right, I reckon.

Mothman
06-07-2010, 08:11
The links show what 2 Very Good ones went for - so bank on making no more than £10-15 on ebay I'd say...

A Rotel RA-820AX went for £36 yesterday B.I.N. (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Rotel-RA-820-Stereo-integrated-Amplifier-high-quality-/230488631959?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_Amplifiers&hash=item35aa316a97#ht_5635wt_1137) - so £40 for the lot is about right, I reckon.

I've reached the same conclusion myself and that any profit was probably going to be in what I could get for the speakers and stands. Not sure it's worth the hassle so I've decided to pass on this one. Also this way I get to keep my knackers, as they would surely be removed if I came home with anymore HIfi gear this month:eek:.

Alex_UK
06-07-2010, 08:57
The right choice I reckon (I forgot to mention the speakers, but they won't make a fortune) - too much hassle, and the A60 should be a WAY better amp based on the reputation it has. Plus you get to keep your nadgers! :)

Alex_UK
06-07-2010, 08:58
(I'm just hoping the Sony amp I bought for no good reason arrives tomorrow morning when she's at work...)

Alex_UK
06-07-2010, 12:37
Not really a "Bargain" but of voyeuristic interest nonetheless... Technics SP15 system (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TECHNICS-GOLD-VINTAGE-HI-FI-SYSTEM-SP-15-TURNTABLE-/320551862607?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Consumer_VintageAudio_RL&hash=item4aa261414f#ht_500wt_1154)

Marco
06-07-2010, 13:34
The speakers are the most interesting bits there for me, and the seller for some reason chose not to take a proper close-up picture of those! :doh:

Marco.

Macca
06-07-2010, 21:11
The speakers are the most interesting bits there for me, and the seller for some reason chose not to take a proper close-up picture of those! :doh:

Marco.

The 'Buy it Now price' is nonsense, surely?

Rare Bird
06-07-2010, 21:14
Still expensive at a tenner :lol:

:sofa:

Macca
06-07-2010, 21:28
Still expensive at a tenner :lol:

:sofa:

You want to be careful the Technics Community don't come banging on yer door:lol:

Rare Bird
06-07-2010, 21:29
You want to be careful the Technics Community don't come banging on yer door:lol:

Ill MASH em up

:D

Alex_UK
06-07-2010, 21:31
And then kick the Matsushita out of them? :lol:

Macca
06-07-2010, 21:35
And then kick the Matsushita out of them? :lol:

:lol:It's that time of night aint it?

Rare Bird
06-07-2010, 21:36
:lolsign:...

Beobloke
07-07-2010, 09:29
Not really a "Bargain" but of voyeuristic interest nonetheless... Technics SP15 system (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TECHNICS-GOLD-VINTAGE-HI-FI-SYSTEM-SP-15-TURNTABLE-/320551862607?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Consumer_VintageAudio_RL&hash=item4aa261414f#ht_500wt_1154)

Ooooo, that's rather nice.........:eek:

DSJR
07-07-2010, 10:32
The SP15 was a *further* development from the SP10 apparently (according to Colloms anyway) and improved on the latter for domestic use according to the review..

Techno Commander
07-07-2010, 18:27
If I wasnt facing a hefty repair bill to get my CD player spinning again, I'd be all over this like a bad rash. :)

Pink Triangle Export (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PINK-TRIANGLE-EXPORT-TURNTABLE-C-W-GTI-UPGRADES-/190413665316?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_Turntables&hash=item2c5589f424).

http://i.ebayimg.com/23/!B)G0N!wBmk~$(KGrHqQOKkYEwP0DegrIBMMFieQzj!~~_12.J PG

DSJR
07-07-2010, 19:10
The PT's were very "accurate" sounding decks at the time, but the build was pants in the early days and failures of assembly and bearings was common.

It weas said by Arthur that the Tarantella was better than a PT, but I seriously doubt it, as the former was a very "live" structure (I don't know the current Funk models).

When you can, good luck with the PT. I still rate good ones highly indeed for truthful vinyl replay..

Rare Bird
07-07-2010, 20:55
If I wasnt facing a hefty repair bill to get my CD player spinning again, I'd be all over this like a bad rash. :)

Pink Triangle Export (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PINK-TRIANGLE-EXPORT-TURNTABLE-C-W-GTI-UPGRADES-/190413665316?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_Turntables&hash=item2c5589f424).

http://i.ebayimg.com/23/!B)G0N!wBmk~$(KGrHqQOKkYEwP0DegrIBMMFieQzj!~~_12.J PG

I fitted that PSU with the illuminus Green/Pink control into my old LPT..That alone was a nice touch.

Barry
09-07-2010, 14:26
Just bought this off eBay:

http://www.beoworld.org/assets/thumbnails/1700aa.gif

Beocord 1700 tuner. £20

I couldn't resist the styling. Will report on the performance later.

spendorman
09-07-2010, 15:49
Just bought this off eBay:

http://www.beoworld.org/assets/thumbnails/1700aa.gif

Beocord 1700 tuner. £20

I couldn't resist the styling. Will report on the performance later.

My friend has one of these bought when they first came out, he reckons first rate sound and no faults since he bought it. Rest of his system includes 2x Quad 405 (serviced by yours truly) a Quad 303 (also serviced by me), a Quad 44, an EL34 push pull amp, Tannoy 12" Monitor Golds, Quad ESL53's and a monster pair of speakers also made by me in the 70's (EMI 14"x9" massive magnet and cast chassis, Audax equivalent of KEFB110 (nicer sounding) KEF T15, Celestion HF1300 and Coles 4001G. These are his preferred speakers.

I recently won a Beolab 1700 amplifier on e bay for him. Unfortunately, one channel is faulty, but he reckons the working channel sounds very good. I will have to look at the amp for him.

DSJR
09-07-2010, 16:13
The matching amp (Beolab 1700) was good in its day too and well worth fettling.

Marco
09-07-2010, 19:27
Just bought this off eBay:

http://www.beoworld.org/assets/thumbnails/1700aa.gif

Beocord 1700 tuner. £20

I couldn't resist the styling. Will report on the performance later.

Quality, Barry - that will fit in rather nicely chez-toi :respect:

Marco.

hifi_dave
09-07-2010, 19:51
Barry,
U woz robbed. I got one, two weeks ago for £10.25....:lolsign:

Rare Bird
09-07-2010, 20:38
:D

Alex_UK
09-07-2010, 22:24
Woz I robbed too? - tonight's addition to the Vintage collection - you lot are a bad influence (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260630516245&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#shId)... ;) But I just want to hear what all the fuss is about with these R200 arms... and he does say it is in "beautiful condition" God knows what cartridge is on it, though.
(Anyone want to buy a Pro-Ject RPM4?) :)

aquapiranha
10-07-2010, 00:07
Barry,
U woz robbed. I got one, two weeks ago for £10.25....:lolsign:

I got one of there for free the other week!

http://www.samlaren.org/radioapparater/beomaster1000.jpg

spendorman
10-07-2010, 07:50
That is neat, never seen one of these.

Just found this:

http://www.beoworld.org/prod_details.asp?pid=316

Various versions, with/ without stereo decoder, with germanium or silicon transistors.

Marco
10-07-2010, 09:54
Hi Paul,

Just a quickie, mate, when you get a minute could you please fill in the basic location details in your profile?

Cheers! :cool:

Marco.

Rare Bird
10-07-2010, 10:20
I got one of there for free the other week!



Couldnt you have cut him down a bit :D

aquapiranha
10-07-2010, 11:24
That is neat, never seen one of these.

Just found this:

http://www.beoworld.org/prod_details.asp?pid=316

Various versions, with/ without stereo decoder, with germanium or silicon transistors.

Yes, this is the older stereo one. Doing sterling service with some old missions in the spare room!

Andre, maybe I should have got the guy to pay me for taking it off his hands :lol:

Rare Bird
10-07-2010, 11:39
:lolsign:

I only like the Beolab 1700 Amp/Beomaster 1700 Tuner & the Beolab 5000 Amp/Beomaster 5000 Tuner

DSJR
10-07-2010, 12:29
Beomaster 1000, one of the first proper HiFi units I ever saw in the flesh. I understand the caps last well on these.

Alex, that Planar 3 NEEDS serious attention. The main bearing may well be dry by now and if there's anything more than a slight dimple on the bottom of the shaft, replace the bearing (quite cheap). Otherwise, clean off the crunge and use a good few drops of EP80 gear oil. MAKE SURE THERE'S A BALL IN THE BRASS BEARING HOUSING!!! With belt disconnected, a serviced bearing with glass top platter on should take ages to spin down to a very gradual stop. The motor bearings may need cleaning (especially the bottom one) and re-lubing and if you can find the early fixed-motor upgrade kit on fleabay I'd get one as the motor runs smoother, the thing doesn't wobble about and pitch stability is very much enhanced IMO.

Check and tighten the main bearing nut and, with care, the arm fixing nut too. failure to do this wrecks the "Rega Sound" and adds to feedback (which the R200 equipped models were sensitive to).

The R200 bias belt can fatigue and fracture. I believe mine has been replaced with a toothed belt from a video service kit.

A new belt and mat is advantageous. HiFi dave will advise and supply. Remove the lid when playing and consider a wall support (their own used to be good value and can be used with others if spiked).

Hope this helps.

spendorman
10-07-2010, 16:09
Hi Paul,

Just a quickie, mate, when you get a minute could you please fill in the basic location details in your profile?

Cheers! :cool:

Marco.

Done

Alex_UK
10-07-2010, 16:30
Thanks for the advice Dave DSJR, I'll let you know how it all goes when I collect it in a couple of weeks.

Marco
10-07-2010, 16:44
Done

Churz, dude!

Marco.

hifi_dave
10-07-2010, 21:43
Woz I robbed too? - tonight's addition to the Vintage collection - you lot are a bad influence (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260630516245&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#shId)... ;) But I just want to hear what all the fuss is about with these R200 arms... and he does say it is in "beautiful condition" God knows what cartridge is on it, though.
(Anyone want to buy a Pro-Ject RPM4?) :)

77 quid !!!!

It's worth that just for the arm.

Alex_UK
10-07-2010, 22:10
Indeed Dave - it was the arm that is of interest, but I always wanted a glass platter Planar 3 back in the day, and you can never have too much vintage hifi, can you? (a R200 on it's own went for £82 today) TBH, I was very surprised to win it, but another classic case of publishing rubbish pictures and not advertising effectively.

Marco
10-07-2010, 22:14
Alex, forget all about using the P3 and simply pop the R200 on your Garrard (once you've got a decent plinth), where it'll sing like a Canary :)

If you do decide to use the P3, though, I bet you it'll outperform the Pro-ject! ;)

Marco.

Alex_UK
10-07-2010, 22:37
Alex, forget all about using the P3 and simply pop the R200 on your Garrard (once you've got a decent plinth), where it'll sing like a Canary :)

If you do decide to use the P3, though, I bet you it'll outperform the Pro-ject! ;)

Marco.

Ha ha - I knew someone would suss me! That was my plan (I think the current SME 3009 is knackered, beyond redemption, judging by the slop in the bearing...) a Rega-based arm was a possibility, as most custom plinths that come on ebay seem to be Rega cut, if not SME - but I don't think a straight arm will look right with a 401 - which is where the R200 comes in... but I'm going to give it a fair chance on its own merits to oust the Pro-Ject from downstairs duties first...

Alex_UK
10-07-2010, 22:45
By the way, the Sony TA-F4A amp I picked up is a little stunner, especially with the Garrard. I haven't had much time to listen to it since it arrived on Thursday, but it looks lovely, is built like the proverbial battleship, and on first listen is more than capable of making music enjoyable - it has now assumed system #2 duties, my Audiolab 8000S is taking a second feed from the Caiman to liven up the garden, and my Aura amp is now in the summerhouse awaiting the exercise bike to be retrieved from the shed, and my ipod... started my diet/exercise regime on the 1st, lost 9lbs in 10 days - very pleased with myself. :)

hifi_dave
11-07-2010, 22:08
Ha ha - I knew someone would suss me! That was my plan (I think the current SME 3009 is knackered, beyond redemption, judging by the slop in the bearing...) a Rega-based arm was a possibility, as most custom plinths that come on ebay seem to be Rega cut, if not SME - but I don't think a straight arm will look right with a 401 - which is where the R200 comes in... but I'm going to give it a fair chance on its own merits to oust the Pro-Ject from downstairs duties first...

The Rega will sound better than the Project but not as good as a 401 on decent plinth. So, keep the R200 and put the Rega and Project on E-Bay to raise the necessary for a 401 plinth.

Job done...:cool:

Marco
11-07-2010, 22:13
Spot on advice, Dave - I concur completely :)

Alex,


Ha ha - I knew someone would suss me!


I did have the feeling that might have been the plan of action ;)

Marco.

Barry
11-07-2010, 23:47
Ha ha - I knew someone would suss me! That was my plan (I think the current SME 3009 is knackered, beyond redemption, judging by the slop in the bearing...) a Rega-based arm was a possibility, as most custom plinths that come on ebay seem to be Rega cut, if not SME - but I don't think a straight arm will look right with a 401 - which is where the R200 comes in... but I'm going to give it a fair chance on its own merits to oust the Pro-Ject from downstairs duties first...

SME 3009 arms use knife edge bearings in the vertical plane. What appears to be 'slop' is simply the fact that the arm can be lifted off the vertical bearing yoke. In use the weight of the arm, cartridge/ headshell and counter balance weight will keep the knife edge bearings under load and so no 'slop'.

Regards

DSJR
12-07-2010, 07:24
The horizontal bearings can be adjusted to minimise if not remove free-play. I'm looking forward to getting mine (Series 2 fixed shell) in a few weeks. Used with the right cartridge, it's good IMO.

Rare Bird
12-07-2010, 10:30
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/3009.jpg

You see the notches each side above! thats where you Knife edge bearing sits, thats all it does, held inplace by the Yolk, as barry says there is play in this bit it's normal. The other bearings are inside that black main pillar, One at the top, one at the base. Just grab the above at those screw points & try moving it side by side see if there is any slop, shouldnt be.You can upgrade your Knife edge with a bronze version, make shure you specify which version of the 3009 you have, these are dead easy to change over

Barry
12-07-2010, 13:31
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/3009.jpg

You see the notches each side above! That's where you knife edge bearing sits, that's all it does, held in place by the yoke, as Barry says there is play in this bit it's normal. The other bearings are inside that black main pillar, One at the top, one at the base. Just grab the above at those screw points & try moving it side by side see if there is any slop, shouldn't be. You can upgrade your knife edge with a bronze version, make sure you specify which version of the 3009 you have, these are dead easy to change over.

I should have mentioned that most of the SME 3009 Improved models use plastic knife edges, which really ought to be replaced with ones made from brass or bronze. Some of the early samples of the Improved design used metal knife edges; SME were using up their stock of the these - the SME 3009 Imp (FH) arm I have, has a metal bearing.

Regards

Rare Bird
12-07-2010, 15:44
You know i think people are genuinely thick ..I won an amp last week on & specifically asked the seller to chop of the mains plug to avoid any damage to the amp in transit as i know the original boxes were a bit tight for space!..Guess what it arrived today with the mains plug pins sat on the facia giving me a loverly set of scratches & small chip..I friggin give up with people. :steam:

spendorman
12-07-2010, 16:14
You know i think people are genuinely thick ..I won an amp last week on & specifically asked the seller to chop of the mains plug to avoid any damage to the amp in transit as i know the original boxes were a bit tight for space!..Guess what it arrived today with the mains plug pins sat on the facia giving me a loverly set of scratches & small chip..I friggin give up with people. :steam:

Oh, blimey, that is stupid.

I hope that you took photos of the damage and the plug.

Marco
12-07-2010, 16:38
You know i think people are genuinely thick ..I won an amp last week on & specifically asked the seller to chop of the mains plug to avoid any damage to the amp in transit as i know the original boxes were a bit tight for space!..Guess what it arrived today with the mains plug pins sat on the facia giving me a loverly set of scratches & small chip..I friggin give up with people. :steam:

What a thick useless twat! :doh: :rolleyes:

I presume you gave the thick useless twat the feedback he deserved??

Marco.

Barry
12-07-2010, 17:13
What a thick useless twat! :doh: :rolleyes:

I presume you gave the thick useless twat the feedback he deserved??

Marco.

+1

Rare Bird
12-07-2010, 17:25
I'm amazed tbh. I asked him to slip the original box into a secondary box as i like to keep everything original, but he obviously failed to follow the most important instruction, both instructions were on the same message so no excuse really..I am mad mostly because the amps is in beautiful condition at around 38 years old to be disfigured by someone just like that! very sad. Suppose two requests overloaded his brain somewhat.

Barry
12-07-2010, 17:36
I'm amazed tbh. I asked him to slip the original box into a secondary box as i like to keep everything original, but he obviously failed to follow the most important instruction, both instructions were on the same message so no excuse really..I am mad mostly because the amp's is in beautiful condition at around 38 years old to be disfigured by someone just like that! very sad. Suppose two requests overloaded his brain somewhat.

What was the amp André? A Ferrograph?

Rare Bird
12-07-2010, 18:13
What was the amp André? A Ferrograph?

:lolsign: Your so good ;)

Mothman
12-07-2010, 18:29
Not on ebay but I think I missed a bargain:doh: Yesterday at the local car boot fair I came across a guy selling a pair of Rogers LS5 speakers, the cabinets were a little knocked about but nothing to bad and they were black ash finish so probably easily restorable, though didn't get to look at the drivers. He obviously new what they were because the asking price was £50 but like most people I don't go to the local car boot with £50 in my pocket. After wandering around for 1/2 hour I decided to go back and give the guy my details and see if we could arrange a deal for later but unfortunately by then he had packed up and gone home, though I'm fairly sure he didn't find a buyer.

I did however manage to find a vintage Sansui AU-505 amplifier, which unfortunately though it powers up omits no sound:( Still better luck next time:).

spendorman
12-07-2010, 18:33
Not on ebay but I think I missed a bargain:doh: Yesterday at the local car boot fair I came across a guy selling a pair of Rogers LS5 speakers, the cabinets were a little knocked about but nothing to bad and they were black ash finish so probably easily restorable, though didn't get to look at the drivers. He obviously new what they were because the asking price was £50 but like most people I don't go to the local car boot with £50 in my pocket. After wandering around for 1/2 hour I decided to go back and give the guy my details and see if we could arrange a deal for later but unfortunately by then he had packed up and gone home, though I'm fairly sure he didn't find a buyer.

I did however manage to find a vintage Sansui AU-505 amplifier, which unfortunately though it powers up omits no sound:( Still better luck next time:).

My friend (about 3 years ago) got a nice pair of 15 Ohm Rogers LS3/5a at a car boot sale for, yes, 99p!

That amp might be a simple fix, fuse, switch or connection etc.

Rare Bird
12-07-2010, 18:36
My friend (about 3 years ago) got a nice pair of 15 Ohm Rogers LS3/5a at a car boot sale for, yes, 99p!



My Audiomaster 15 Ohm 'LS3/5a' were from cash convertors £20 including original chrome tublar stands. ;)

DSJR
12-07-2010, 18:56
And the Audiomaster versions came out amongst the best of the breed too. The 'Choice Angus MacKenzie review on 1976 apparently did the high power tests before the listening and many lower powered speakers had their tweeter crossovers either damaged or burned out.

Barry
12-07-2010, 18:59
And the Audiomaster versions came out amongst the best of the breed too. The 'Choice Angus MacKenzie review on 1976 apparently did the high power tests before the listening and many lower powered speakers had their tweeter crossovers either damaged or burned out.

I thought the Chartwell versions were supposed to be 'best of breed'?

Regards

DSJR
12-07-2010, 19:06
A MacK did indeed say just that and I wouldn't necessarily disagree, despite seeing Robin Marshall slaving over pen plots and crossover components (every cap was tested and matched up to the drivers). Some batches with iffy B110 bass units needed two or three trips to Hirst Labs to be calibrated.

I refer to the HiFi News appreciation of them a few years ago, where, IIRC, the Audiomaster was thought highly of.

Rare Bird
12-07-2010, 19:17
I thought the Chartwell versions were supposed to be 'best of breed'?

Regards

Na Chartwells fetch good money for obvious reasons.

Barry
12-07-2010, 19:25
Na Chartwells fetch good money for obvious reasons.

What are these 'obvious' reasons? I have no axe to grind - just curious. :)

Regards

Alex_UK
12-07-2010, 19:50
Anyone know anything about "bargain" Sansui "Carlos Fandango" hairy-chested speakers like these... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260630790734&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_500wt_1154 - are they "all mouth and no trousers" like you would imagine?

Mothman
12-07-2010, 20:17
The guy who I bought the Sansui amp from at the weekend also had a pair of Sp2000's which are similar and could have been yours for less than a fiver. There's lots of discussion about Sansui speakers over on Audiokarma but reading these you get the general impression that there not that great. The high end models though which were built for the Japanese market are supposed to be exceptional.

spendorman
12-07-2010, 20:20
I thought the Chartwell versions were supposed to be 'best of breed'?

Regards


I have Chartwells (bought from my friend who got them new), they are good, but my home made LS3/5a clones are better in my opinion. This is probably mainly due to the slightly larger and more rigid cabinets that I used.

Alex_UK
12-07-2010, 20:53
Cheers Rich, I just love the look of them, like they jumped straight off a can of

http://pmimages.worthpoint.com/thumbnails2/1/0507/20/1_50fd9790f94276265276e5bac74a0f32.jpg

Rare Bird
12-07-2010, 21:28
yum yum

Techno Commander
12-07-2010, 22:39
http://pmimages.worthpoint.com/thumbnails2/1/0507/20/1_50fd9790f94276265276e5bac74a0f32.jpg

If only they had ring pulls on them. :):)

Rare Bird
13-07-2010, 10:24
Two cheap Fons 'CQ30' Vinyl Grinders running at the mo if anyones intrested, one with SME & one without.

DSJR
13-07-2010, 15:56
Never liked the CQ30 - flimsy build, bell-like platter, quivery suspension and very weak drive with little torque. I'm sure the ideas were ok, but the execution of them needed more thought in my opinion.

Rare Bird
13-07-2010, 16:15
Well there you go lord davey has spoken :lol:

DSJR
13-07-2010, 17:46
Yah Boo Shucks and Bah Humbug :chainsaw: :ner:

Barry
13-07-2010, 19:29
Regarding the Fons CQ30 - I'm with Dave.

Regards

hifi_dave
13-07-2010, 19:48
You can make that three of us...:lol:

The Fons was an ugly pig and poorly made. The Planar-2 rode rings around it.

DSJR
13-07-2010, 19:59
The Planar 2 rode rings round many a turntable, didn't it mate????? :eyebrows:

hifi_dave
13-07-2010, 20:04
It did/does and it was most upsetting. There were many beautiful looking turntables back then but the plain ol' Planar-2 showed them up. Purely in the sound department, of course....:doh:

Rare Bird
13-07-2010, 20:16
Purely in the sound department, of course....:doh:

Early wood trim version looked ok.

hifi_dave
13-07-2010, 20:23
Yes, it did but plain and simple.

Beobloke
13-07-2010, 21:26
Personally I liked the CQ30 I used to own - thought it was very nice and sounded very pleasant indeed.

Rare Bird
13-07-2010, 22:01
Personally I liked the CQ30 I used to own - thought it was very nice and sounded very pleasant indeed.

:exactly:

Marco
15-07-2010, 23:54
It did/does and it was most upsetting. There were many beautiful looking turntables back then but the plain ol' Planar-2 showed them up. Purely in the sound department, of course....:doh:

Care to list any of the ones it showed up, in your opinion? :)

Marco.

Beobloke
16-07-2010, 08:44
According to some old rag, I think it might have been Hi-Fi Answers, the Planar 2/3 easily showed up the Nakamichi TX-1000.

Didn't you listen to one of those recently, Marco? What did you think of it? ;)

:lol:

Marco
16-07-2010, 10:17
Lol! I sincerely hope it's not more of that nonsense. I would hope that Dave knows better! :lol:

Some deluded fool on pfm said something similar a while back about a P2 and another top-notch Jap D/D deck. I forget which one it was. The trouble is their heads are so full of the old blinkered flat-earth nonsense that they're incapable of judging what they're hearing properly!

Yes, I liked the Nakamichi, but much preferred the L-07D, more than likely because I'm not a massive fan of modern SME arms (a 312S was fitted to the Nak), as I feel that they portray music in a way which is a bit too 'polite' for my tastes. I find 12" arms sometimes a bit like this too. They're undeniably more 'accurate', but similar quality 9" arms to my ears have more verve and immediacy.

I realise that this is sometimes a synergy thing too, but I've heard that sonic signature before with modern SMEs on a number of T/Ts. I put it down mainly to the Magnesium armtube damping the sound too much. Sometimes you can over control resonance and strangle dynamics in the process. I think that Magnesium is an excellent material for a headshell, but over-eggs the pudding too much on a full armtube. That's my theory, anyway.

It would be interesting to compare an M2-12R fitted with a quality magnesium headshell, instead of the rather flumsy one supplied as standard, against a 312S, using the same cartridge, and see what the results were. I think that some would be surprised!

The L-07D was much more fun to listen to - it had more 'get up and go' and boogied more, which I like. The Nak/SME/Zyx portrayed the music as 'all present and correct', but it was a somewhat 'sober' listen, whereas the L-07D make you want to get up and dance! It sounded remarkably close to my modded Techie in that respect, as it has a similar fun-factor. Both decks were close, but the L-07D edged it in the final analysis.

That's a précis - you'll get the in-depth stuff when I finish the report! ;)

Marco.

Rare Bird
16-07-2010, 11:15
Can i just say i would buy an old Rega Planer 3/R200 over thos aswell.

Marco
16-07-2010, 11:21
Lol - have you actually heard any of them at length, dude, and done a back-to-back comparison with a Rega in the same system, or are you just allowing your bias against Jap D/Ds to influence your opinion? ;)

Marco.

Beobloke
16-07-2010, 11:48
flumsy

Word of the day!! :)

Marco
16-07-2010, 11:54
Lol! Where did I write that? :scratch:

Btw, even though I preferred the Kenwood to the Nak, the latter was still a phenomenal sounding T/T and EONS ahead, sonically and musically, of a toy like a P2!!!

Marco.

Alex_UK
16-07-2010, 13:30
I'll be collecting my "Beautiful Condition" 1985 £77 Rega Planar 3/R200 next Saturday - I hardly dare imagine what a giant-slayer I've bought! :lol:

And now that I've realised (or rather Andre has told me!) that my 3009 isn't shagged I don't need to bastardise my new "uber-turntable" for the arm, and can just rest in the knowledge I truly will have an ebay bargain! ;)

Rare Bird
16-07-2010, 18:47
I'll be collecting my "Beautiful Condition" 1985 £77 Rega Planar 3/R200 next Saturday - I hardly dare imagine what a giant-slayer I've bought! :lol:

And now that I've realised (or rather Andre has told me!) that my 3009 isn't shagged I don't need to bastardise my new "uber-turntable" for the arm, and can just rest in the knowledge I truly will have an ebay bargain! ;)

Make shure you get two & a quater times as much as you paid for the rega for it ;)

Rare Bird
16-07-2010, 18:48
Lol - have you actually heard any of them at length, dude, and done a back-to-back comparison with a Rega in the same system, or are you just allowing your bias against Jap D/Ds to influence your opinion? ;)

Marco.

Do i really have to answer that :lolsign:

DSJR
16-07-2010, 18:57
Lol! Where did I write that? :scratch:

Btw, even though I preferred the Kenwood to the Nak, the latter was still a phenomenal sounding T/T and EONS ahead, sonically and musically, of a toy like a P2!!!

Marco.

Now, why is it that you can come out with totally dismissive comments like that and yet put the likes of me down if I suggest something similar *which I've heard..."

We're not talking P2's Marco. Dave and I were very careful, I believe, to suggest a PLANAR 2 WITH R200 TONEARM - and in Daves case, with the Linn/Rega ribbed rubber mat as well.

I repeat, don't ignorantly knock those ancient Rega decks. they really were giant killers in their day.

Rare Bird
16-07-2010, 19:21
We're not talking P2's Marco. Dave and I were very careful, I believe, to suggest a PLANAR 2 WITH R200 TONEARM - and in Daves case, with the Linn/Rega ribbed rubber mat as well.



I tried all sorts of mats on mi owd Rega this was the best sounding to me if this is the same one as your refering to Dave i agree

DSJR
16-07-2010, 19:29
Yep, the original LP12 mat with Linn Products shaved away.... ;)

hifi_dave
16-07-2010, 20:27
That mat also sounded better than the felt on the LP12....:doh:

DSJR
16-07-2010, 22:50
So why did "we" all take to the felt mat like the bloody sheep we were?????

Marco
16-07-2010, 22:51
Hi Dave,


Now, why is it that you can come out with totally dismissive comments like that and yet put the likes of me down if I suggest something similar *which I've heard..."


Wow, wow, wow....! Sorry, they're dismissive because I've owned a P2 with an R200 and have also heard the L-07D and Nakamichi in question, so I'm speaking from a position of experience.

As you know, I love the old Acos-sourced R200; it's a lovely arm (and, IMO, pisses all over the RB250/300), but it does not turn the P2 into a giant-killer. It's a decent deck, no doubt, but quite frankly, the L-07D and Nakamichi I heard are in a totally different league!!


We're not talking P2's Marco. Dave and I were very careful, I believe, to suggest a PLANAR 2 WITH R200 TONEARM - and in Daves case, with the Linn/Rega ribbed rubber mat as well.

I repeat, don't ignorantly knock those ancient Rega decks. they really were giant killers in their day.

There's nothing "ignorant" about it, Dave. I'm speaking from a position of experience, having heard all three decks in question.

And I'm not knocking the P2/R200, in its rightful context, which is as decent budget vintage T/T, but to compare it, performance-wise, against an L-07D or even my modified 1210, would be akin to comparing a Ford Focus with a Lamborghini Murcielago!! :eyebrows:

Marco.

Barry
16-07-2010, 22:55
Hi Dave,



Wow, wow, wow....! Sorry, Dave, they're dismissive because I've owned a P2 with an R200 and have also heard the L-07D and Nakamichi in question, so I'm speaking from a position of experience.

As you know, I love the old Acos-sourced R200; it's a lovely arm (and, IMO, pisses all over the RB250/300), but it does not turn the P2 into a giant-killer. It's a decent deck, no doubt, but quite frankly, the L-07D and Nakamichi I heard are in a totally different league!!



I'm not knocking them in their rightful context, Dave, which is as decent budget vintage T/Ts, but to compare them, performance-wise, against an L-07D or even my modified 1210, would be akin to comparing a Ford Focus with a Lamborghini Murcielago!! :eyebrows:

Marco.

Hey Marco - don't go all 'Kessler' on us! :eyebrows:

Regards

Mike
16-07-2010, 22:58
Hey Marco - don't go all 'Kessler' on us! :eyebrows:

Regards

Way too late, Barry! ;)

DSJR
17-07-2010, 10:55
Hi Dave,



Wow, wow, wow....! Sorry, they're dismissive because I've owned a P2 with an R200 and have also heard the L-07D and Nakamichi in question, so I'm speaking from a position of experience.

As you know, I love the old Acos-sourced R200; it's a lovely arm (and, IMO, pisses all over the RB250/300), but it does not turn the P2 into a giant-killer. It's a decent deck, no doubt, but quite frankly, the L-07D and Nakamichi I heard are in a totally different league!!



There's nothing "ignorant" about it, Dave. I'm speaking from a position of experience, having heard all three decks in question.

And I'm not knocking the P2/R200, in its rightful context, which is as decent budget vintage T/T, but to compare it, performance-wise, against an L-07D or even my modified 1210, would be akin to comparing a Ford Focus with a Lamborghini Murcielago!! :eyebrows:

Marco.

But have you compared the Planar 2/R200 with the L-07D directly as Dave W did all those years ago??? :eek:

The Techie is a bit of a Ford Focus (sporty model) isn't it? Roy Gandy once said that the real skill is in economy engineering yet getting a fantastic result. According to a number of engineers I've spoken to, anything is possible of you just chuck loads of money at it. It's getting a giant-killing performance from not much that takes the real talent - and in audio I'm thinking of Glenn Croft as one great example - and yes, the bloody Focus too in the motor industry, although ours has about as much appeal as a food-mixer (which sort of takes me back to Kenwood/Trio :lol:

Marco
17-07-2010, 12:02
Lol - I can't believe I'm even having this discussion.... This is getting ridiculous now, so I shall say no more!

Marco.

Techno Commander
17-07-2010, 20:40
Not seen one of these for a while.

Trio / Kenwood KD-550 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TRIO-Kenwood-KD-550-Direct-Drive-Turntable-VGC-/320562551623?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_Turntables&hash=item4aa3045b47)

http://i.ebayimg.com/24/!ByD)T3Q!mk~$(KGrHqR,!h4Ew5BV!!lYBMQJoCHzU!~~_12.J PG

Techno Commander
20-07-2010, 22:44
Another rarity for those of you who like big receivers. :)

SETTON RS-440 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290455354226&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)

http://www.monalbum.fr/Photo-SCIDTX6T-D.jpg

Alex_UK
22-07-2010, 14:03
I love the remote for my Creek amp - it's a really high class feeling metal faceplate, great little buttons, feels really nice. (not exactly the same markings as this, but close.)

http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu259/Alex_Steel1969/creek-evo-remote_1.jpg?t=1279807087

Unfortunately, the one for my Marantz SACD player is much more plasticky, but whilst browsing ebay (as I always do!) I saw a remote for a Marantz PM17 Mk II, unused, 99p start - looked to be very similar in style to the Creek one:

http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu259/Alex_Steel1969/remotecontrol_1.jpg?t=1279806970

Took a punt, not knowing if it would be programmed the same as mine, got it for £7.60, and sure enough not only is it mint and works my player but it is almost identically constructed to the Creek remote - I'd go so far as to say they are made by Marantz for Creek (or outsourced to the same manufacturer) as the battery cover is 100% identical in the moulding. Feels much nicer having a proper heavyweight metal remote for each, shame the amp codes aren't the same though like they were with my Audiolab when I only needed one but there you go, for less than a tenner a very classy upgrade!

webby
23-07-2010, 17:37
I have a P2 up in the loft. Snog/Marry/Avoid?


Ahem, sorry, use/keep/sell? :)

The Vinyl Adventure
23-07-2010, 17:48
I have a P2 up in the loft. Snog/Marry/Avoid?


Ahem, sorry, use/keep/sell? :)

:lol:
What a show that is... A real display of the pinnacle of classy women in the uk today!

Reid Malenfant
23-07-2010, 17:59
Took a punt, not knowing if it would be programmed the same as mine, got it for £7.60, and sure enough not only is it mint and works my player but it is almost identically constructed to the Creek remote - I'd go so far as to say they are made by Marantz for Creek (or outsourced to the same manufacturer) as the battery cover is 100% identical in the moulding.
I'm not sure how many people know this but i figure it's worth mentioning having read the above.

In the case of CD players & transports, if you have either a dodgy remote or like Alex you want a rather better built one all you generally need to do is find out the transport that is fitted into your CD spinner ;)

I still own a Marantz CD63SE that i bought new back in the day when they were hot potatoes. Marantz make rather upmarket CD players that bear a rather uncanny resemblance to Philips players (just better built & better specified). Check some of them out & you'll see that they often have the same fascia & buttons for the same functions in the same place :) The recorders really spring to mind, I have a Traxdata CD recorder that has the same front panel layout as a certain Philips machine, which has the same panel layout as a certain Marantz recorder 2293

Having purchased a Theta Data Basic transport fitted with a Philips CDM9 Pro mechanism i was dead chuffed when the Marantz CD63SE remote not only worked the Theta, but actually gave it even more functions than the original Theta remote!

Lo & behold now that i'm using a Krell DT10 which uses a Philips CDM4 mechanism it really isn't hard to guess that the same remote happens to work that perfectly as well :lol:

DSJR
25-07-2010, 15:05
This won't be a bargain by the time it's finished, but it's a tonearm I loved to listen to back in the day -

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Grace-G-714-G714-Wood-Uni-pivot-unipivot-Tonearm-/300449442300?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item45f42ea9fc

Unipivot it may be, but handling was a dream and the sound was fabulous, especially with the original Grado reference cartridges, which sadly changed every month.......

I wonder how it would work with a Decca???????????

The Vinyl Adventure
25-07-2010, 15:39
Naim cd players work with Phillips/marantz remotes too ..

Reid Malenfant
25-07-2010, 17:13
Naim cd players work with Phillips/marantz remotes too ..
I guess they also use philips transports as well then :)


You know this thread has really opened my eyes to the value, or should i say possible value of some older equipment. I think i'll have to go on a hunt about here sometime, but i already know that there is loads of older kit, most in working order :clap: For instance, i know i have one of these in working order (because i bought it myself years ago :lol:) JVC QLY-5F (http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://usr.audioasylum.com/images/y2010/04/35046/IMG_2591.JPG&imgrefurl=http://trade.audioasylum.com/ca/listing/Turntables/JVC/QL-Y5F/Possible-trade-for-amp/35046&usg=__vLRBVeYscrWK_B2kVWXc-Cx0m8w=&h=600&w=800&sz=109&hl=en&start=13&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=S6gvxn1wZEh8VM:&tbnh=107&tbnw=143&prev=/images%3Fq%3Djvc%2Bql-y5f%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DX%26tbs%3Disch:1) It's sitting in the loft behaving itself ;) I can't believe the prices simply because that is far more than what i payed for it :mental:

Quad 303 + 33, Meridian 205 monoblocks, some old Ferograph reel to reel which looks very much like this one (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ferrograph-reel-reel-recorder-/250667697485?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Consumer_VintageAudio_RL&hash=item3a5cf5854d) & probably about 50 other things..

Maybe i should start selling on ebay instead of just buying :doh:

Barry
25-07-2010, 17:25
This won't be a bargain by the time it's finished, but it's a tonearm I loved to listen to back in the day -

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Grace-G-714-G714-Wood-Uni-pivot-unipivot-Tonearm-/300449442300?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item45f42ea9fc

Unipivot it may be, but handling was a dream and the sound was fabulous, especially with the original Grado reference cartridges, which sadly changed every month.......

I wonder how it would work with a Decca???????????

Frankly it is the only arm made by Grace that interests me. I think it would be a very good match with a Decca.

Am tempted to bid myself as I'm going through a bit of a Decca re-discovery, however the arm up for sale is not in the best of condition.

Regards

DSJR
25-07-2010, 18:20
Could it be re-finished by someone?

Got to be better than most if not all of the "SME" headshell clones, even the Jelco's.

I suspect the old Grey tonearms have a similar feel (the Greys used a form of ball in fluid-filled cup for their "bearing" as I remember).

You know, I didn't buy one at the time because Linn were only interested in importing the G707, which was really designed for the mid seventies CD-4 Quadrophonic cartridges (mostly high compliance MM's) or good mm's not needing higher capacitance wiring. The 714 would have worked beautifully with an Asak and descendants I feel.. The handful of 714's came in via a different importer and I bet only a handful were sold over here.

Barry
25-07-2010, 19:17
Could it be re-finished by someone?

Got to be better than most if not all of the "SME" headshell clones, even the Jelco's.

I suspect the old Grey tonearms have a similar feel (the Greys used a form of ball in fluid-filled cup for their "bearing" as I remember).

You know, I didn't buy one at the time because Linn were only interested in importing the G707, which was really designed for the mid seventies CD-4 Quadrophonic cartridges (mostly high compliance MM's) or good mm's not needing higher capacitance wiring. The 714 would have worked beautifully with an Asak and descendants I feel.. The handful of 714's came in via a different importer and I bet only a handful were sold over here.

I'm watching it - will decide to bid later. I'm wondering about digging out my old Asak and giving that a go.

Not sure about the Grey. They look pretty 'agricultural' to me. Designed solely for studio DJ use, they are robust but suspect they lack facilities such as bias and azimuth adjustment.

I don't know how much the 714 cost compared to the 707, but suspect they were more expensive. Rumour has it Linn obtained the 707s for a tiny fraction of the price they sold them for.

Regards

hifi_dave
25-07-2010, 20:06
The G707 was somewhere around £25.00 retail in Hong Kong at the time. Remind me again how much Linn charged ?....:rolleyes:

DSJR
25-07-2010, 21:46
It varied, but according to HiFi Choice in 1978, the 707 cost £125 inc VAT. By Linn's standards of the time, that means they bought them in bulk for £12.50 each approx, maybe £15 and certainly no more than £20 :steam:

The 714 was more expensive, retailing at around £149 if memory serves...

Macca
25-07-2010, 22:08
It varied, but according to HiFi Choice in 1978, the 707 cost £125 inc VAT. By Linn's standards of the time, that means they bought them in bulk for £12.50 each approx, maybe £15 and certainly no more than £20 :steam:

The 714 was more expensive, retailing at around £149 if memory serves...

Dave

You've got a bit of a thing about Linn, I think. I'm not disputing what you say about their mark up on the 707 specifically; but just to say: I have Linn amps bought second hand - - bomb proof build, practically military grade, still working perfectly. The pre must be at least 25 years old (although I suspect the previous owner did not use it that much) - and how much was a Linn Lk1 in 1983?

Barry
25-07-2010, 22:17
The G707 was somewhere around £25.00 retail in Hong Kong at the time. Remind me again how much Linn charged ?....:rolleyes:

£198 in 1985. (Source Hi Fi Choice) Linn would have bought them in as OEM items, for less than half the local retail price.

Regards

Beobloke
26-07-2010, 11:57
I realise this thread is called "Bargains" on eBay and this is so far from the definition of that word as to be untrue, but did anyone catch the final selling price of these original Goodmans Maxims?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vintage-Goodmans-Maxim-Loudspeakers-Superb-Boxed-/180534722544?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_HiFiSpea kers&hash=item2a08b53ff0

Yes, they're boxed, yes they're in good nick (although the grilles are different colours!) and for forty year old speakers that can sit on your upturned hand, they're quite decent, but £800????!!! :stalks:

Barry
26-07-2010, 12:38
I realise this thread is called "Bargains" on eBay and this is so far from the definition of that word as to be untrue, but did anyone catch the final selling price of these original Goodmans Maxims?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vintage-Goodmans-Maxim-Loudspeakers-Superb-Boxed-/180534722544?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_HiFiSpea kers&hash=item2a08b53ff0

Yes, they're boxed, yes they're in good nick (although the grilles are different colours!) and for forty year old speakers that can sit on your upturned hand, they're quite decent, but £800????!!! :stalks:

Goodness that's a bit steep!

I was being a touch ironic when I entitled the thread: 'Bargains on eBay'. There are some, but it's a seller's market and now in these recessionary times people are looking to buy s/h, so prices are forced up.

Regards

Marco
26-07-2010, 12:38
Hi Adam,

I really like those, as they tick all the right boxes, retro-wise (especially the grille fabric)! *But*, you're right, they're defo not worth £800! :eek:

I doubt they'd sound any better than the (genuinely) mint Celestions I bought recently for £260!:

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/1628/buzkefgcgkkgrhqrhoev10f.jpg (http://img12.imageshack.us/i/buzkefgcgkkgrhqrhoev10f.jpg/)


http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/2199/buzkcdwb2kkgrhqvimev10c.jpg (http://img23.imageshack.us/i/buzkcdwb2kkgrhqvimev10c.jpg/)

And they sound fabulous in the lounge on Atacama stands, on the end of my system - way better than any modern 'budget' standmount speakers I've heard - even some 'non-budget' speakers ;)

Barry,

The Goodmans would look fab and right at home in your lounge!

Marco.

Beobloke
26-07-2010, 13:29
they tick all the right boxes, retro-wise (especially the grille fabric)! .


Er...well, each to their own - personally I think the grilles look like my parents' old seventies-tastic hessian wallpaper that's been smeared with sick, but there you go! :lol:

I've actually owned two pairs of these - one I bought for £1 at a car boot sale and the last pair were £3 from my local dump. They are truly impressive, given their size and age, but still ultimately limited.

What I can't help wondering is, given their relative positions in the Goodmans range, whether this means my Magisters are therefore worth about £10,000 now..........

Marco
26-07-2010, 13:33
Lol - it's the 'grey-hued' fabric of the ones on the right I like, rather than the 'jobby-stained' ones on the left! :eyebrows:

Marco.

Barry
27-07-2010, 00:24
Er...well, each to their own - personally I think the grilles look like my parents' old seventies-tastic hessian wallpaper that's been smeared with sick, but there you go! :lol:

I've actually owned two pairs of these - one I bought for £1 at a car boot sale and the last pair were £3 from my local dump. They are truly impressive, given their size and age, but still ultimately limited.

What I can't help wondering is, given their relative positions in the Goodmans range, whether this means my Magisters are therefore worth about £10,000 now..........

Adam!

Will you please stop reminding us of the 'gold seam' that is you local dump! We're all very envious. :) It's just that we don't have these acquiescent council workers around here. :(

Regards

Alex_UK
27-07-2010, 05:50
What upsets me more is that the kit actually does get destroyed, I'd much rather someone buy it cheap with a back-hander (even if it is then "recycled" onto ebay) than imagine it crushed and gone to landfill... :(

Beobloke
27-07-2010, 08:03
Adam!

Will you please stop reminding us of the 'gold seam' that is you local dump! We're all very envious. :) It's just that we don't have these acquiescent council workers around here. :(

Regards

Would this be a bad time to mention that I bought another pair of the 1980's Goodmans Maxim 2s there for £2 over the weekend? OK, I won't then.....;)

Incidentally, does anyone know anything about these NEAL Ferrograph S23 loudspeakers that sold on eBay last night?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEAL-Ferrograph-S23-Speakers-/160458123169?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_HiFiSpea kers&hash=item255c0ca7a1

Sadly, a crap memory and subsequent lack of mobile signal meant that I'm not their new owner but I've seen a few pairs about recently and just wondered what they were like. If they're anywhere near as good as my S1s they should be well worth checking out....

Marco
27-07-2010, 08:59
Dunno, mate, but I bet that the guy who owns this would know:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ferrograph-F307-Amplifier-Number-1_W0QQitemZ200501142811QQcategoryZ3280QQcmdZViewIt emQQ_trksidZp4340.m263QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DDLSL%252B SIC%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BIEW%25 2BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D8%26pmod%3D160458123169%252 B160458123169%26po%3D%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D68314128 37534222144

:eyebrows: ;)

Marco.

Techno Commander
01-08-2010, 14:27
Alesis RA 500 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200501996656&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) power amp.
Only £1 with 2 hours to go. Unfortunately collection only.

Rare Bird
01-08-2010, 15:24
Alesis RA 500 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200501996656&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) power amp.
Only £1 with 2 hours to go. Unfortunately collection only.

I used to run the original 'RA100' when i had my keyboard rig

spendorman
01-08-2010, 15:32
Not a million miles from me. Will be good for those cold winter evenings

Techno Commander
01-08-2010, 15:43
Certainly is a reasonable amp that can be fettled into something better without too much work. If nothing else, its a nice case and heatsinks for a project.

Alex_UK
01-08-2010, 20:59
Well not exactly a bargain, really, but another "itch that had to be scratched" - back in the day, I always lusted after a Pioneer Stable Platter CD player, so winning a PD-S904 tonight should give me the opportunity to try one. Happy days. :) (It's still got the label on it, boxed, excellent condition - will be the the heart of my 90's system, just running out of rooms now!)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270612775116&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_500wt_1120

DSJR
01-08-2010, 21:04
Andre pointed me in the direction of a teac T-1 transport. I looked deeper as I'd owned and rather liked a VRDS 10 nearly twenty years ago. It turns out that it's actually an inverted cheapo Sony mech with a "platter" of sorts grafted onto Sony's motor and the usual top clamp set underneath.

Good luck with the Pioneer Alex..

Alex_UK
05-08-2010, 17:53
One for the EMT fans...

It's a bargain at the moment with 99p start - anyone want to guess how much it will go for?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260628239808&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123#ht_1573wt_1165

Alex_UK
05-08-2010, 17:57
Good luck with the Pioneer Alex..

It really is in mint condition, and I love the novelty of the Stable Platter, and this might sound silly, but one of the reasons I wanted to get one was to make me clean my CDs as you get to look at the "business end!" First impressions are that it is very close to my Marantz as a transport into the Caiman, maybe a tad brighter (harsher?) in the treble, but problem is I just want to keep playing vinyl at the moment...

webby
06-08-2010, 13:57
How about these?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Celestion-Ditton-15-XRs-QUALITY-speakers-NO-RESERVE-/320571000765?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_HiFiSpea kers&hash=item4aa38547bd#ht_500wt_1182

25 mins away from me

hifi_dave
06-08-2010, 14:05
Talk about bargains on E-Bay - I've got a few new Rega bits on there, going out at trade, loads of people watching but no buyers !!!

What's happening ? :scratch:

Rare Bird
06-08-2010, 14:28
Talk about bargains on E-Bay - I've got a few new Rega bits on there, going out at trade, loads of people watching but no buyers !!!

What's happening ? :scratch:

No ones got any money simples

trane
06-08-2010, 19:40
Talk about bargains on E-Bay - I've got a few new Rega bits on there, going out at trade, loads of people watching but no buyers !!!

What's happening ? :scratch:

as i realised you do not have a certain rega item though if you happen to have it at a great price* i'd definitely invest into it - even if not from e-bay ;)

*as noted we're talking about 'bargain' here

please note you have p.m.

The Grand Wazoo
07-08-2010, 09:46
I've never seen one of these before.........

Stylovue (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Stylovue-Boxed-60s-/170520131561?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Turntable_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27b3cab7e9)

A device to project a shadow of your stylus so you can decide whether it's worn or not.

http://i.ebayimg.com/04/!Bz!MfT!CGk~$(KGrHqV,!gsE)C3e1,l!BMUGqkze,g~~_12.J PG

Barry
09-08-2010, 11:49
I've never seen one of these before.........

Stylovue (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Stylovue-Boxed-60s-/170520131561?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Turntable_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27b3cab7e9)

A device to project a shadow of your stylus so you can decide whether it's worn or not.

http://i.ebayimg.com/04/!Bz!MfT!CGk~$(KGrHqV,!gsE)C3e1,l!BMUGqkze,g~~_12.J PG

I use either a Colton 30x stylus magnifier or a simple jeweller's loupe.

Techno Commander
11-08-2010, 15:27
I know there has been a lot of talk about Volt drivers lately. Here is a good selection of them on ebay. I should point out that the chap selling them also has them for sale on one of the pro audio forums. Prices are about 10% cheaper than the ebay prices, so there is probably some room for haggling.

FR220.1 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270617429639&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) 8" coaxial

B2500.1 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270617429651&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) 10" bass driver plus ABR

Alex_UK
11-08-2010, 21:29
Just have to vent my spleen... f*** it annoys me how many auctions that I'm watching, with the intention of bidding, get ended early... if you don't want to auction it, take out a f****** classified ad, don't put it on f****** ebay, and then pull the auction when some c*** persuades you to sell it for probably less than I would have bid on it! Sorry, just getting a bit cheesed off with it now - I've only been on ebay for 10 years, surprised it has taken this long!

Macca
13-08-2010, 21:18
Just have to vent my spleen... f*** it annoys me how many auctions that I'm watching, with the intention of bidding, get ended early... if you don't want to auction it, take out a f****** classified ad, don't put it on f****** ebay, and then pull the auction when some c*** persuades you to sell it for probably less than I would have bid on it! Sorry, just getting a bit cheesed off with it now - I've only been on ebay for 10 years, surprised it has taken this long!

Buying hi-fi on ebay - NO! - unless:

1) You are close enough so you can go and pick it up youself and see it and listen to it working before paying

2)It is brand new boxed buy it now and from a commercial seller.

It was a good idea - Just too many liars and con artists in the world.

Alex_UK
13-08-2010, 21:42
Buying hi-fi on ebay - NO! - unless:

1) You are close enough so you can go and pick it up youself and see it and listen to it working before paying

2)It is brand new boxed buy it now and from a commercial seller.

It was a good idea - Just too many liars and con artists in the world.

Hi Martin - yes, with my recent turntable & CD player experimentations, rule #1 applied, though I took a gamble on the vintage Sony amp I bought which paid off.

My ebay expectations generally are too high - I've had two Vinyl albums recently described as "mint" and "new - never played" - neither of which has been true, in the second case, there were even biscuit crumbs or similar leaving grease spots on the inner, a smeary-scuff on one side (chewed biscuit? :confused: :spew: ) scratches, and the outer cover was split along the seem! As you say, too many liars/con artists to risk it most of the time... :rolleyes:

Macca
13-08-2010, 21:50
Hi Martin - yes, with my recent turntable & CD player experimentations, rule #1 applied, though I took a gamble on the vintage Sony amp I bought which paid off.

My ebay expectations generally are too high - I've had two Vinyl albums recently described as "mint" and "new - never played" - neither of which has been true, in the second case, there were even biscuit crumbs or similar leaving grease spots on the inner, a smeary-scuff on one side (chewed biscuit? :confused: :spew: ) scratches, and the outer cover was split along the seem! As you say, too many liars/con artists to risk it most of the time... :rolleyes:

Alex - I've only ever bought one record on ebay - Howe II - High Gear - £1.00 plus postage from New York. Perfect condition. I was trying to get a copy for 15 years.

I've worked it out and I've been ripped off on approx one third of purchases where I've broken my rules.

The Grand Wazoo
13-08-2010, 23:41
Not the case for me. I've bought countless 2ndhand albums on ebay & only had 1 disaster.
New CD's are where I've had the most upsets, though.

However, bargain of the week this week has to be this, which I received this morning:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Isobel-Campbell-Mark-Lanegan-Sunday-Devil-Dirt-CD-/120543642216?pt=UK_CDsDVDs_CDs_CDs_GL

Isobel Campbell & Mark Lanegan - 'Sunday at Devil Dirt'
CD + bonus disc of live tracks in hardback book style digipack for £3.49 with free postage. The proceeds go to charity (for children's cancer) & they've still got loads left. It's a great album - go buy a couple - one for you & one for a gift for some lucky person.

I got the vinyl of it on the day of it's original release, but wanted a copy of the CD too. Their new album is released on Monday.

Alex_UK
14-08-2010, 05:42
Good find Chris (CLIC Sargent is one of the charities we support at work too) - 100% goes to them, so buy up people! I was never sure about Isobel's music but for the money it would be rude not to, and they have some SERIOUS other bargains - remember that Charlotte Gainsbourg album with music by Air I was recommending the other day - 5:55? How does £2 including postage sound? :eek: - brand new!httought 5 p://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Charlotte-Gainsbourg-5-55-CD-2006-/390159920976?pt=UK_CDsDVDs_CDs_CDs_GL#ht_500wt_896 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Charlotte-Gainsbourg-5-55-CD-2006-/390159920976?pt=UK_CDsDVDs_CDs_CDs_GL#ht_500wt_896 )

I've added them to my favourite sellers - and already ordered 6 CDs and only half way through scanning what they've got... Well done Chris!

Alex_UK
14-08-2010, 23:11
One for the EMT fans...

It's a bargain at the moment with 99p start - anyone want to guess how much it will go for?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260628239808&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123#ht_1573wt_1165

:eek: £1,270!

Techno Commander
14-08-2010, 23:22
Is it that good?

Probably wouldnt be my first choice to unload 1200 notes on.

Alex_UK
14-08-2010, 23:28
Is it that good?

Probably wouldnt be my first choice to unload 1200 notes on.

Barry is the man to tell us, I would imagine (I know he has a 930) - certainly by reputation they are. I think it would struggle to pass the "WAF" (Wife Acceptance Factor) test in my house though! (And to be honest, mine too - I like my hifi a little less industrial than that 950, but then it was never intended for living rooms, let alone 21st century living rooms.)

DSJR
15-08-2010, 10:12
So many of the better 1970's audio products are now being "collected" and command a significantly higher price because of their desirability. I'm not in the slightest knocking EMT - a BBC engineer used them for high quality transcription purposes and found the then LP12 (hollow and cupped-hands) coloured, this before the Ittok destroyed the deck for a decade or so..

Old Spendors have doubled in value over the last couple of years, BC1's now going for a good few hundred quid. I've seen BC3's fetching a grand nowadays, despite the S100 which ultimately replaced them being a rather better sorted speaker, bass warmth aside.

Techno Commander
15-08-2010, 11:36
I actually dont mind the looks too much and fortunately my girlfriend appreciates hifi for its sound quality rather than its looks too (which is rare :)). If it "does the job" then fair play, but £1200 provides an awful lot of options for a second hand turntable.

I must admit that im not ever likely to ever spend that much money to spin some vinyl, but if I did, then I would probably be looking at a Rock or very tricked up Techie and have some change for a good cartridge.

DSJR
15-08-2010, 13:27
Some of you guys really need to listen to NAS turntables. They're really good sounding, easy to set up and with no temperament at all. The arm pods are adjustable and, together with the collet adjustment for arm height, can properly accommodate all manner of tonearms. They run absolutely silent too, both mechanically and through the speakers.

Alex_UK
15-08-2010, 14:41
Some of you guys really need to listen to NAS turntables. They're really good sounding, easy to set up and with no temperament at all. The arm pods are adjustable and, together with the collet adjustment for arm height, can properly accommodate all manner of tonearms. They run absolutely silent too, both mechanically and through the speakers.

And they look very nice! (Yes, I'm superficial!)

Alex_UK
16-08-2010, 10:30
One for the Sansui fans - this was looking like a bargain a few days ago... not any more though.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190430533950&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_500wt_1154

nat8808
16-08-2010, 10:48
Just have to vent my spleen... f*** it annoys me how many auctions that I'm watching, with the intention of bidding, get ended early... if you don't want to auction it, take out a f****** classified ad, don't put it on f****** ebay, and then pull the auction when some c*** persuades you to sell it for probably less than I would have bid on it! Sorry, just getting a bit cheesed off with it now - I've only been on ebay for 10 years, surprised it has taken this long!

It's getting daft - and when you ask why they pulled the auction you can tell, even though they don't say so, that they sold it for nothing.

Recently for example there was a Pioneer set of CT-950 cassette, SA8800 or 9800, TX9800 or 8800 all with wooden sleeves and with a Pioneer record deck, sitting in the system section for £10 start. It ended within two days and when I asked why he ended it and that I was intending to bid £150, he said 'Your bid would have come in handy!' meaning he'd sold it outside of Ebay for less.

That's £600 worth of Pioneer at least (the wooden sleeves would fetch more than £150 alone) snapped up by someone taking advantage of ignorance.

Only thing you can do in the end is to do the same yourself or only the bargains will be filtered out by chancers.

nat8808
16-08-2010, 10:51
Buying hi-fi on ebay - NO! - unless:

1) You are close enough so you can go and pick it up youself and see it and listen to it working before paying

2)It is brand new boxed buy it now and from a commercial seller.

It was a good idea - Just too many liars and con artists in the world.

I completely disagree with that!

I'm a bit of an ebay addict, always buying hifi and 95% is as described, or better than described and arrives in one piece.

Rarely do I feel I've been had - mostly disappointment comes where I haven't thought to check something myself before bidding.

Records can be hit or miss though, granted.

Techno Commander
16-08-2010, 11:31
I have only had one dead item from ebay (Aiwa XK 007 tape deck). To be fair, it was sold as "untested" and it only cost me 99p. So I cant grumble too much.

Reid Malenfant
16-08-2010, 16:47
It's getting daft - and when you ask why they pulled the auction you can tell, even though they don't say so, that they sold it for nothing.

Recently for example there was a Pioneer set of CT-950 cassette, SA8800 or 9800, TX9800 or 8800 all with wooden sleeves and with a Pioneer record deck, sitting in the system section for £10 start. It ended within two days and when I asked why he ended it and that I was intending to bid £150, he said 'Your bid would have come in handy!' meaning he'd sold it outside of Ebay for less.

That's £600 worth of Pioneer at least (the wooden sleeves would fetch more than £150 alone) snapped up by someone taking advantage of ignorance.

Only thing you can do in the end is to do the same yourself or only the bargains will be filtered out by chancers.
In the case of this auction there is something you could have done to prevent this from happening ;) If only you'd placed a bid on the items :doh: As long as there is no mention on the listing that the items can be removed as they are on sale elsewhere you are laughing. The reason being is that the seller can't simply remove them from sale once a bid is placed. Just like you are in a binding agreement to pay for what you win, the seller is in a binding agreement to supply what they are selling (as far as i know).

Now the only way they could stop the auction is say that whatever is was that's being sold happens to now be not working & ebay will contact you & ask if you agree to the sale being made null & void. You must agree though that there is not a lot of likelyhood that all the cassette decks would pack up simultaneously (unless a car fell on them :lol:) so you could refuse to allow the sale to be cancelled & still bag the goods :eyebrows:

I may be wrong about the above but by law i think it's probably correct.

I know this process exists as i won an auction for a pair of Krell KAS 2 monoblocks, went to pick them up & gave them a quick test & was gutted to discover (much like the owner) that one was faulty :( Had to go through this rigmarole on ebay to both agree to cancel the auction, which we both did...

Alex_UK
17-08-2010, 07:20
I won't link to the ad, but how "optimistic" is this description, (and it's not the first time I've seen something similar) "these speakers are great sounding and looking the rubbers arround the cones need replacing and are readily available on ebay i just havent had the time to do this HOWEVER does NOT affect the sound unless you turn it up to a stupidly loud level"

Really? No surrounds has no affect on the sound... Don't know why I bother with them then, I never listen "stupidly loud"! :rolleyes:

The Vinyl Adventure
17-08-2010, 08:51
Aw, why no link?

Alex_UK
17-08-2010, 09:03
Aw, why no link?

I just thought it would give him undue advertising! But here it is if you want it :) http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140441233728&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123#ht_600wt_1137

colinB
17-08-2010, 09:15
Im looking at a " Mj acoustics 50 subwoofer" on e bay , sorry , dont know how to post a link. It finishes this evening and its pick up only , somewhere in London.
I thought it would be a cheap way of trying one in my room to see how i get on.
Dont know why but im getting cold feet about it this morning.
If anyone has a minute i would appreciate any feedback. Im thinking i should at least ask him to set it up. Not sure if its been looked after or not.

Alex_UK
17-08-2010, 09:23
This one Colin? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MJ-acoustics-pro-50-subwoofer-/320575095782?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers#ht_500wt_1154

colinB
17-08-2010, 09:25
Yes Alex. Thats the one. What do you think.

DSJR
17-08-2010, 09:32
I just thought it would give him undue advertising! But here it is if you want it :) http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140441233728&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123#ht_600wt_1137

Alex, have you ever HEARD AE109's??? There's little to no treble because they were often used with the other WTF 5 star disasters of the period - CD63KI Sig and PM66KI Sig and both of these take your fillings out and strip the paint off the walls before any music is played... TDL did the same thing with the RTL "SE" series of speakers, ruining a basically good speaker by slugging the tweeter so. At least the treble can be restored with a resistor and possibly a cap change...

Alex_UK
17-08-2010, 09:35
Dont know why but im getting cold feet about it this morning.

Probably this line:
Bought from a auction, hence condition is okay, few scratches here and there

In my experience (and jaded outlook on life!) most ebay condition descriptions need to be taken with a pinch of salt - if something is described as "okay" condition, then I would translate that to "not very good" - certainly cosmetically, as he admits. Also, the other kit he is selling includes pro-audio stuff, (samplers etc.) so it is sensible to assume it has been "hammered" in a pro-audio environment, and as it came from auction in the first place, there is no idea of the provenance, so bid accordingly. Bear in mind a brand new, fully warranted one is available with free delivery for under £300 from an official dealer - I personally wouldn't pay more than £80-90 (bearing in mind you have the hassle/cost of collection on top) on the used one.

Alex_UK
17-08-2010, 09:38
Alex, have you ever HEARD AE109's???

No, never, and not looking to buy any, just browsing, honest! (Not likely to now, especially as they obviously rot as well as sound crap anyway!)

colinB
17-08-2010, 09:38
Good call. Thanks Alex , feel more confident about how to proceed now.

Spectral Morn
17-08-2010, 09:44
I just thought it would give him undue advertising! But here it is if you want it :) http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140441233728&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123#ht_600wt_1137

The very fact that if you check his/her feedback that they don't sell HiFi much or at all suggests they don't have a clue. However the fact that the description details are on a half page which you must scroll to read fully may suggest some other agenda.

Bottom line is no rubber surround no workie. It would be funny except some poor sod who knows little about audio might buy them. I don't know if you can still get replacement drivers.


Regards D S D L

Alex_UK
17-08-2010, 11:20
In the case of this auction there is something you could have done to prevent this from happening ;) If only you'd placed a bid on the items :doh: As long as there is no mention on the listing that the items can be removed as they are on sale elsewhere you are laughing. The reason being is that the seller can't simply remove them from sale once a bid is placed. Just like you are in a binding agreement to pay for what you win, the seller is in a binding agreement to supply what they are selling (as far as i know).

Now the only way they could stop the auction is say that whatever is was that's being sold happens to now be not working & ebay will contact you & ask if you agree to the sale being made null & void. You must agree though that there is not a lot of likelyhood that all the cassette decks would pack up simultaneously (unless a car fell on them :lol:) so you could refuse to allow the sale to be cancelled & still bag the goods :eyebrows:

I may be wrong about the above but by law i think it's probably correct.

I know this process exists as i won an auction for a pair of Krell KAS 2 monoblocks, went to pick them up & gave them a quick test & was gutted to discover (much like the owner) that one was faulty :( Had to go through this rigmarole on ebay to both agree to cancel the auction, which we both did...

Thanks Mark - I have now gone through my current watch list, and placed bids on all the items that have none - if my wife sees my account I'm sending her straight to you, because I am now the highest bidder on 11 pairs of speakers, 4 amps, 5 CD players, a rack and at least a dozen CDs/LPs and various other items - if no one else bids on any of it, I won't be paying the mortgage next month! :eek:

nat8808
17-08-2010, 11:41
It doesn't work that way other than it gives confidence to a seller that their item is worth something (because someone has bid so soon on it) and so they may feel less inclined to end it early.

The law Mark is talking about (if he's correct - I don't know the ins and outs) only applies to traditional auctions in an auction house (or conducted online by an auction house).

Ebay is not an auction house in any way and is only a place that facilitates the bringing together a seller and a buyer. The auction format of if is really just for fun in a sense as a way to find a price. No laws of the land are involved. A seller can end an auction at any point and can refuse to enter into a sale if he wants afterwards - he will only be breaking Ebay's Terms and Conditions and it's up to them what they do about that (often nothing).

The only point the law comes in is when the sale becomes a personal contract by personal contact and an agreement made to buy and sell - normal contract law - and Ebay making that contact on your behalf doesn't count.

So, bidding on all those items only serves to tell the seller that you are interested but for me it also flags that interest up to other interested buyers so could then start a bidding war (or it could put people off because of the competition).

Personally speaking, instinctively things stand out as more desirable if people are already bidding. If they have no bids sometimes that feeds my doubts about the item. I of course try to act in the opposite way to those instincts.

Techno Commander
17-08-2010, 11:43
TDL did the same thing with the RTL "SE" series of speakers, ruining a basically good speaker by slugging the tweeter so. At least the treble can be restored with a resistor and possibly a cap change...

I had a pair of the RTL-1 (i think) the small book shelf version. I actually went the whole hog and fitted a pair of Morel MDT33's and some decent cable. The results were quite astonishing.:)

In a way, I regret selling them, but the money went towards my JBL fund and I managed to recoup everything they owed me.

nat8808
17-08-2010, 11:49
The very fact that if you check his/her feedback that they don't sell HiFi much or at all suggests they don't have a clue. However the fact that the description details are on a half page which you must scroll to read fully may suggest some other agenda.

Bottom line is no rubber surround no workie. It would be funny except some poor sod who knows little about audio might buy them. I don't know if you can still get replacement drivers.


Regards D S D L

Speakers that need re-foaming are some of the best bargains around!

So easy to do and no need to get OCD about it not being as new, not the exact correct foam as long as it is close - if they're 10, 20 year old speakers they would never have been as new anyway as foams, rubbers stretch over time anyway, some call this 'breaking in'.

If you want a good sub for peanuts, look for a something like an 80's AudioPro with no foams - about £20 and the foams £20 and couple of hours of your time to get it all working again.

Spectral Morn
17-08-2010, 11:59
Speakers that need re-foaming are some of the best bargains around!

So easy to do and no need to get OCD about it not being as new, not the exact correct foam as long as it is close - if they're 10, 20 year old speakers they would never have been as new anyway as foams, rubbers stretch over time anyway, some call this 'breaking in'.

If you want a good sub for peanuts, look for a something like an 80's AudioPro with no foams - about £20 and the foams £20 and couple of hours of your time to get it all working again.

Having looked into re-doing the surround once on a pair of speakers.... what was required to do it right put me off big time. I take my hat off to those who can do such things.


Regards D S D L

Reid Malenfant
17-08-2010, 15:02
Thanks Mark - I have now gone through my current watch list, and placed bids on all the items that have none - if my wife sees my account I'm sending her straight to you, because I am now the highest bidder on 11 pairs of speakers, 4 amps, 5 CD players, a rack and at least a dozen CDs/LPs and various other items - if no one else bids on any of it, I won't be paying the mortgage next month! :eek:
:lolsign: I think you have more chance of winning the lottery :eyebrows:

Have you been outbid on anything yet? :violin:

DSJR
17-08-2010, 18:25
I had a pair of the RTL-1 (i think) the small book shelf version. I actually went the whole hog and fitted a pair of Morel MDT33's and some decent cable. The results were quite astonishing.:)

In a way, I regret selling them, but the money went towards my JBL fund and I managed to recoup everything they owed me.

The mk1 RTL2's (same bits) were lovely too and even with the small-dome tweeters, which helped the crossover roll-in, the treble was lively but not harsh. I suspect the chipboard carcasses helped with colourations although the bubbly vinyl wraps were truly horrid. Fortunately, the mk2 SE versions looked better and the treble slugging can be corrected very successfully. TDL should have been more forward looking, but didn't and they sort of fizzled out as a company. very sad IMO.

Reid Malenfant
17-08-2010, 18:34
TDL should have been more forward looking, but didn't and they sort of fizzled out as a company. very sad IMO.
In all honesty they should have stuck to their guns & continued making really decent high quality stuff like they did in the early days with real transmission lines & not reflex transmission lines (wtf? lol).

I think that trying to cater for the lower price ranges is what killed them ;) You only need to look at PMC who appear to have taken over TDLs' slot to realise this.

As you say, it's a real shame, their old studio monitor series still go for crazy money secondhand :)

Techno Commander
17-08-2010, 18:37
I agree. Their big transmission lines were excellent and some of the best on the market.
I would love a pair of PMC's (not the little ones though). They are probably the only speaker that I would consider upgrading for.

Ooh that reminds me........................

Spur07
17-08-2010, 18:43
It's getting daft - and when you ask why they pulled the auction you can tell, even though they don't say so, that they sold it for nothing.

Recently for example there was a Pioneer set of CT-950 cassette, SA8800 or 9800, TX9800 or 8800 all with wooden sleeves and with a Pioneer record deck, sitting in the system section for £10 start. It ended within two days and when I asked why he ended it and that I was intending to bid £150, he said 'Your bid would have come in handy!' meaning he'd sold it outside of Ebay for less.

That's £600 worth of Pioneer at least (the wooden sleeves would fetch more than £150 alone) snapped up by someone taking advantage of ignorance.

Only thing you can do in the end is to do the same yourself or only the bargains will be filtered out by chancers.

I purchased some decent Naim gear from a seller couple of years back. Due to being inundated with stupid offers he decided to end the auction early and put it up for a very generous BIN asking price just to get rid with his phone number at the bottom. (Not ebay BIN, his own version) I was the first to call as I was off work at the time.

Couple days later I went to pick up and as we exchanged he told me he had eventually switched off his phone after my call because he had become fed up with people calling and treating him like an ignorant tw*t by trying to blag the gear off him for a nominal sum. One guy phoned with a very aggressive manner insisting he 'MUST' sell the gear to him for a £100 or he'll really regret it! I felt really sorry for him and rather ashamed. He was a really nice bloke who probably knew what he had but didn't want to milk it for all its worth. He had enjoyed it in the early 90's but was now moving away to set up home with his young wife. The thing is the chances are every one of those idiots that called have probably at some point posted on one of the hi-fi forums. When I got home I really felt like venting my anger on the PFM and the Naim forums.

DSJR
17-08-2010, 18:44
I know more about what happened at TDL and didn't happen there. I also knew the designer of their drive units who also did the basics on the RTL series (John Wright "voiced" them).

Nothing wrong with the long ported RTL technique. It made the cabinets more solid and took the bass down very well and cleanly with no boom. The odd RTL3's could be transformed for the better with the mid brought up in level (replacing a 15 Ohm resistor across the bass coil with a 30 or 35 Ohm one IIRC) and the loading was improved too..

PMC are catering to a severely shrinking market, selling far less but at higher prices, which are now almost beyond belief IMO for what's inside them.

TDL really died when John Wright passed away. I'll have to look his achievements up, but I believe he designed the Goldring G800 range of cartridges back in the day amongst other things.

Reid Malenfant
17-08-2010, 18:53
I think the RTL was more like the Daline (decoupled anti resonant line) in function & these indeed can be pretty good to say the least. A friend of mine has a pair of Dalines designed by Focal & in all honesty you just wouldn't believe the depth & solidity of the bass being produced by a single 130mm driver per enclosure ;)

DSJR
17-08-2010, 20:50
As I remember, on the RTL2 it was a full-width partition in an "L" shape running from the top of the bottom vent around 2/3rds back and then up about half way up inside. A long port really and that's how the designer basically described it IIRC...

Techno Commander
17-08-2010, 21:08
..... although the bubbly vinyl wraps were truly horrid.

Ahh yes, the finish. Remeniscent of 70's woodgrain, sticky back fablon.:lol:

aquapiranha
17-08-2010, 21:10
My freind has some (battered) RTL2's, he likes them! I haven't really heard them myself. IMF were nice too, I used to have some Super Compacts


BACK OT!

I have just bought this... can't wait!


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280549246976&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

Techno Commander
17-08-2010, 21:31
Interesting. I presume it uses the TV as a display screen?

aquapiranha
17-08-2010, 21:35
Yes Andy, it has HDMI output, but I will be using a TFT with a DVI connector on it (leads on ebay for a few pounds)

here...

http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid=735

Actually it is David (Swampy) who should take the credit, he let us know about it!

colinB
17-08-2010, 23:44
If you search e bay for Spendor 6se these strange prototype 200w active spendors come up, at least i think they are active. £500.

Alex_UK
18-08-2010, 10:47
...and talking of strange speakers...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/hifi-speakers-/220655925709?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers#ht_500wt_1154

According to the blurb they were on Dragon's Den - anyone see it or know anything about them? They would look good on my Landrover! :)

Techno Commander
18-08-2010, 11:27
They do look quite funky. I wonder how weatherproof they are?

colinB
18-08-2010, 14:30
...and talking of strange speakers...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/hifi-speakers-/220655925709?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers#ht_500wt_1154

According to the blurb they were on Dragon's Den - anyone see it or know anything about them? They would look good on my Landrover! :)

My mate drives a jeep that possibly have the most hideous speakers ever made.
Im talking nails run down a blackboard type of sound.
My mission is to bend his ear and make him buy these.
I bet he didnt get any money from the Dragons.

DSJR
18-08-2010, 18:23
Fugg eBay, Hyperfi have some KEF Q7's for £250. Old models they may be but I rather liked these when they were £600 or more.... Great for bi-amping and I don't remember them "biting" like the cheaper ones did...

Macca
18-08-2010, 18:26
...and talking of strange speakers...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/hifi-speakers-/220655925709?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers#ht_500wt_1154

According to the blurb they were on Dragon's Den - anyone see it or know anything about them? They would look good on my Landrover! :)

The speakers were not on Dragon's Den but the bloke who makes them was. Way back, but seen it on a repeat - he had a chair made from a shopping trolley and some other bits and pieces - IIRC he got and accepted an offer, not sure who it was from.

Techno Commander
18-08-2010, 18:40
How about a Fons (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Original-1979-Fons-Mk1-SME-Arm-33-45-78-Pitch-Cont-/300455248441?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiF i_Turntables) record player? :scratch: Its at 99p with 3 days to go. Unfortunately pick up only from Camberley.

Personally I would buy it just for the SME 3009 MkII. :)

colinB
18-08-2010, 18:50
Ive got my eyes glued to a Rega vulcan sub, no longer in production but had a reputation of being good with music.

Reid Malenfant
18-08-2010, 18:53
How about a Fons (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Original-1979-Fons-Mk1-SME-Arm-33-45-78-Pitch-Cont-/300455248441?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiF i_Turntables) record player? :scratch: Its at 99p with 3 days to go. Unfortunately pick up only from Camberley.

Personally I would buy it just for the SME 3009 MkII. :)
Indeed, i'm sure it'll go for more than that though, if it doesn't it's criminal :lolsign:

Alex_UK
18-08-2010, 19:16
A decent condition SME 3009 MK2 is worth at least £150-£200 possibly more depending on the version...

The Grand Wazoo
18-08-2010, 21:06
I was idly watching a copy of Trees 'On The Shore'
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TREES-Shore-LP-1970-CBS-1st-Press-ULTRA-RARE-/260646071655?pt=UK_Records
......which fetched £370

So do you think the lucky(?) winner will ever play it?
Did they buy it just to own it?
If so, why?

&.......what would it fetch if it were not available on CD nowadays?

colinB
18-08-2010, 21:18
I was idly watching a copy of Trees 'On The Shore'
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TREES-Shore-LP-1970-CBS-1st-Press-ULTRA-RARE-/260646071655?pt=UK_Records
......which fetched £370

So do you think the lucky(?) winner will ever play it?
Did they buy it just to own it?
If so, why?

&.......what would it fetch if it were not available on CD nowadays?

I dont understand. It was re released 180gm last year. Price , £20:mental:

Alex_UK
18-08-2010, 21:38
So do you think the lucky(?) winner will ever play it?
Did they buy it just to own it?
If so, why?

Sad, if it never gets played again, but a bit like ultra expensive wine, some people like to own stuff just for the sake of owning it. Or, even more sadly, as an investment. I've got a reasonable collection of old Matchbox & Dinky etc. toy cars, and I very occasionally get them out of their original boxes just to look at them and feel them (ok, I admit it, and go broom broom on the carpet) but that doesn't really apply with a record or wine, does it? I guess if you are a completist then you'd want it if you are a massive fan, and I can sort of relate to that, but I'd still play it, even if only the once...

The Grand Wazoo
18-08-2010, 21:45
I own some fairly rare albums but I play them all - that's why I bought them! But I'd never dream of paying that kind of cash for any recording - not a chance.

Alex_UK
19-08-2010, 08:58
I think this guy may have received too many Nigerian "Dear Friend" emails, by the looks of his writing style! Very thorough, if nothing else... and at the moment a bargain, but I suspect they won't stay that way for long. When I used my 8000S as my main amp I always intended to one day scrape enough together for a pair of M's, would still like some now but the piggy bank is looking a bit bleak for the price these will go for.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170529040370&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123#ht_7652wt_1137

Techno Commander
19-08-2010, 11:42
Blimey, some waffle there. I wonder if he works for QVC

REM
19-08-2010, 12:07
Save your money Alex, looking at the specs the guy has published you wouldn't hear a thing through them...:lol:

StanleyB
19-08-2010, 12:41
Save your money Alex, looking at the specs the guy has published you wouldn't hear a thing through them...:lol:
I reckon with a frequency response outside the human hearing (20Mhz-20kHz ), you sure won't.
It's advertised as in reseller's condition. So only resellers need apply:eyebrows:.

Alex_UK
19-08-2010, 12:50
I reckon with a frequency response outside the human hearing (20Mhz-20kHz ), you sure won't.
It's advertised as in reseller's condition. So only resellers need apply:eyebrows:.

Indeed, I thought I'd buy them and then resell them to a dog! ;)

aquapiranha
19-08-2010, 19:52
I was idly watching a copy of Trees 'On The Shore'
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TREES-Shore-LP-1970-CBS-1st-Press-ULTRA-RARE-/260646071655?pt=UK_Records
......which fetched £370

So do you think the lucky(?) winner will ever play it?
Did they buy it just to own it?
If so, why?

&.......what would it fetch if it were not available on CD nowadays?


I love that album! But of course I only have it on CD, that and The Garden of Jane Delawney. Superb folk rock.

REM
20-08-2010, 07:20
I love that album! But of course I only have it on CD, that and The Garden of Jane Delawney. Superb folk rock.

Great albums, got the Sunbeam reissue fabulous pressings.

Thought the 'scarcity value' of the originals fell when stuff got reissued, obviously the opposite is the case, crazy.:rolleyes:

Beobloke
20-08-2010, 09:56
So, then - bargains on ebay?

I modestly submit that my recent purchase qualifies - one Garrard Lab A autochanger and a Leak Troughline 3 for £20.

:)

The Grand Wazoo
23-08-2010, 20:57
So has anyone got a copy of this tucked away?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260652350146&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

sparrow
23-08-2010, 21:22
So has anyone got a copy of this tucked away?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260652350146&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

I used to know where to get pussy a lot cheaper...:rolleyes::scratch::stalks::lol:;)

Alex_UK
23-08-2010, 23:03
That is unreal! I've just spent the most I've ever spent on a vinyl LP to get a copy of one of my favourite albums ever - Simple Things by Zero 7, and also broken my rule about only buying new/sealed vinyl... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150477702879&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_500wt_1154 £35 is a lot for one record, but I really want to compare to the CD, which I've played hundreds of times. I've decided to do this with a few of my all time favourite CDs, and most of them seem to be darned expensive, but nothing like that "pussy" one! :eek:

webby
24-08-2010, 14:15
I love that album! But of course I only have it on CD, that and The Garden of Jane Delawney. Superb folk rock.

My Father in Law just showed me his copy of that LP today. He thinks it's worth something. Is it?

aquapiranha
24-08-2010, 23:05
My Father in Law just showed me his copy of that LP today. He thinks it's worth something. Is it?

I honestly don't know Lee...

Andre? Nick? anyone care to answer this question? :scratch:

The Grand Wazoo
24-08-2010, 23:20
My Father in Law just showed me his copy of that LP today. He thinks it's worth something. Is it?

Well, you can get it new on vinyl at the moment, but this went recently for more than I'd care to pay.........

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Trees-Garden-Jane-Delawney-original-UK-LP-/170523079606?pt=UK_Records

aquapiranha
24-08-2010, 23:23
Well, you can get it new on vinyl at the moment, but this went recently for more than I'd care to pay.........

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Trees-Garden-Jane-Delawney-original-UK-LP-/170523079606?pt=UK_Records

Gulp.


:rolleyes:

The Grand Wazoo
24-08-2010, 23:25
It's a great album though Steve!

Barry
25-08-2010, 00:01
Well, you can get it new on vinyl at the moment, but this went recently for more than I'd care to pay.........

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Trees-Garden-Jane-Delawney-original-UK-LP-/170523079606?pt=UK_Records

£155! :eek: Lord - there's one born every minute!

aquapiranha
25-08-2010, 05:45
It's a great album though Steve!

Yes indeed it is, I have both of them on CD.

The Grand Wazoo
31-08-2010, 14:30
I thought this could interest someone here - a Radford STA25 plus a SC22 preamplifier and tuner. There's also a Leak Troughline 3 tuner chucked in for good measure. Some unspecified work required - could be a steal.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Radford-STA25-Amplifier-/230514952631?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiF i_Amplifiers

spendorman
31-08-2010, 14:57
Was watching that, but over £400 now, so more that I would want to spend. Hopefully, it won't need a new output transformer, available, but quite a cost.

colinB
02-09-2010, 16:59
I seem to have lost my E bay luck having lost out to 3 subwoofers in a row by a few quid.
I have my eye on a cartridge at the moment , ortofon 2m black. Got the blue at the moment , always wanted a black and at the preent time its looking tasty at £90.
Maybe AOS members could help with their
Christies style evluation of how much it might go for.
The cartridge has 30hrs use. Answers on a postcard or a PM would do:)
If this comes across as a bit of a strange post then please ignore me for the day. Ive had no customers for the last 4 hours and my mind is playing tricks.:mental:

The Grand Wazoo
02-09-2010, 20:03
Was watching that, but over £400 now, so more that I would want to spend. Hopefully, it won't need a new output transformer, available, but quite a cost.

With the final price of almost £1,200, it'd better not need anything more than a new fuse in the mains plug!!!!

hifi_dave
03-09-2010, 19:17
It will need more than a fuse. The circuit board has been tinkered with and there is at least one resistor burnt out. Not a major job, I would imagine, but probably not plug and play.

Ali Tait
04-09-2010, 07:45
As long as the iron is ok.

Reid Malenfant
06-09-2010, 16:21
This Audio Research (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Audio-Research-Ref-3-/300463936232?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiF i_Amplifiers&hash=item45f50bd2e8) is cheap right now, £1320 is very cheap indeed as it's not that old :)

I wonder what it'll go for in the end? £3000+ i wouldn't be surprised :eyebrows:

Techno Commander
06-09-2010, 17:32
Thats on my watch list as well. :)

It was only £650 yesterday.