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Rare Bird
11-03-2013, 13:18
One has a cat sticking out of the back :lol:

I don't care if it a sabre toothed tiger i still want em :lol:

Audio Al
11-03-2013, 13:24
I don't care if it a sabre toothed tiger i still want em :lol:


Only £7.77 per speaker :)

Rare Bird
11-03-2013, 13:28
That's right but Birmingham's way too far :(

Jonboy
11-03-2013, 14:45
I sold the big brother to these for £250.00, but it had to be done just to keep the wolves from my door (along with all my other kit). :(

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Audio-Note-AZ2-H-floorstanding-speakers-Walnut-Hemp-cone-and-capacitor-upgrade-/171004213628?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item27d0a5397c&clk_rvr_id=457820121721

cracking speakers i still have a pair which my son uses for his av set up, bit of a waste really :rolleyes:

I think i might do a swap when he's out and stick them in my lounge set up :eyebrows:

Rare Bird
11-03-2013, 19:40
Dead reyt to bring the wife to life when you need feeding

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rare-Large-Vintage-Bertram-Thomas-Copper-Knife-Switch-100Amps-1960-/321041379784?pt=UK_Sound_Vision_Other&hash=item4abf8eb1c8

Marco
11-03-2013, 19:47
:lolsign:

I thought you used your boot for that? :D

Marco.

Rare Bird
11-03-2013, 19:52
I use summert better than that :eyebrows:

walpurgis
11-03-2013, 20:21
I would seriously like this, but I'm buggered if I'd do a 400 mile round trip to collect.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sansui-Solid-State-Steriophonic-Amplifier-AU-777-/140930562994?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiF i_Amplifiers&hash=item20d01dbbb2

walpurgis
11-03-2013, 20:25
Has the world gone mad? Just look at the price this old thing is fetching!!!!!!!!!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RETRO-1970s-SHARP-SG400E-STEREO-MUSIC-CENTRE-HIFI-VINYL-RECORD-TAPE-PLAYER-RADIO-/221197296671?pt=UK_Sound_Vision_Vintage_Separates&hash=item338062e41f

This is £15 boot sale fodder!

julesd68
11-03-2013, 20:56
I would seriously like this, but I'm buggered if I'd do a 400 mile round trip to collect.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sansui-Solid-State-Steriophonic-Amplifier-AU-777-/140930562994?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiF i_Amplifiers&hash=item20d01dbbb2

I particularly like the sleek presentation skills of the seller - the photos look like they were taken in a barn ... :mental:

southall-1998
11-03-2013, 21:14
I would seriously like this, but I'm buggered if I'd do a 400 mile round trip to collect.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sansui-Solid-State-Steriophonic-Amplifier-AU-777-/140930562994?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiF i_Amplifiers&hash=item20d01dbbb2

What, and get rid of your SM-70 :mental:

wiicrackpot
11-03-2013, 22:01
cracking speakers i still have a pair which my son uses for his av set up, bit of a waste really :rolleyes:

I think i might do a swap when he's out and stick them in my lounge set up :eyebrows:
Whaa!! using them beauties for AV, :eek: it's like forcing Ella to do Lady Gaga. :spank: :D

Your Avatar Jonboy. :lolsign:

Rare Bird
11-03-2013, 23:11
What, and get rid of your SM-70 :mental:

You mean 'AU777'! or the later 'AU7700'?

Rare Bird
12-03-2013, 12:33
Akai 'M10' R+R worth working on. This was the second & last of the 1960's 'M' series solid state models..The previous 'M' models were toobe assisted..

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AKAI-M10-REEL-TO-REEL-TAPE-RECORDER-/171002890944?pt=UK_Consumer_VintageAudio_RL&hash=item27d0910ac0

julesd68
12-03-2013, 19:23
This is really tempting me ...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HI-FI-STAND-/321088042816?pt=UK_Home_Garden_LivingRoom_TV_Furni ture&hash=item4ac256b740

walpurgis
12-03-2013, 19:42
This is really tempting me ...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HI-FI-STAND-/321088042816?pt=UK_Home_Garden_LivingRoom_TV_Furni ture&hash=item4ac256b740

Me first. I'm not going to miss out on this, it looks too exciting.

walpurgis
12-03-2013, 19:47
I see this clown has re-listed his piece of crap:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-Tannoy-Mercury-M1-M2-M3-M4-Tweeter-7900-0451-/261127461471?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item3ccc68da5f

No mention of it being shagged and worthless.

Beobloke
12-03-2013, 20:02
Form an orderly queue...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenco-75-with-EMI-epu100-tonearm-Alternative-to-Garrard-301-or-Thorens-TD124-/281076454533?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiF i_Turntables&hash=item4171765485&clk_rvr_id=458249504050

walpurgis
12-03-2013, 20:07
Form an orderly queue...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenco-75-with-EMI-epu100-tonearm-Alternative-to-Garrard-301-or-Thorens-TD124-/281076454533?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiF i_Turntables&hash=item4171765485&clk_rvr_id=458249504050

Nice, but not £5000 nice!

Marco
12-03-2013, 20:36
Form an orderly queue...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenco-75-with-EMI-epu100-tonearm-Alternative-to-Garrard-301-or-Thorens-TD124-/281076454533?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiF i_Turntables&hash=item4171765485&clk_rvr_id=458249504050

The arm interests me rather more than the T/T :)

Btw, have you done anything yet with the Gates T/Ts you bought - or have they been consigned to the 'projects in progress' pile, along with your other 30-odd vintage turntables? ;)

Marco.

Barry
12-03-2013, 20:39
This is almost as bad: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/THORENS-TD124-MkII-turntable-MINT-CONDITION-original-packaging-SUPERB-/221191782723?_trksid=p2047675.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%2 6asc%3D14513%26meid%3D6198150039624798332%26pid%3D 100005%26prg%3D1048%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D281076454533%2 6.

£2,000! It's in excellent but not mint condition, and even if it was, is only worth ~ £500 - 600 at best.

Don't like the look of the overall photograph showing the deck packed up with the speed selector knob in the 45rpm position. How long has it been like that? Not a good idea with the idler wheel engaged!

I bought one complete with an SME 3012 arm and a Shure M55E cartridge a few years ago. Equally "mint", but without the original packing. It cost me £750!

Barry
12-03-2013, 20:48
The arm interests me rather more than the T/T :)

Btw, have you done anything yet with the Gates T/Ts you bought - or have they been consigned to the 'projects in progress' pile, along with your other 30-odd vintage turntables? ;)

Marco.

The EMI EPU-100 arm was designed to accept EMI's own cartridge. Like Decca with their arms and cartridges, EMI designed their cartridge/arm assemblies as an integral and thus optimal design.

Using the arm with other cartridges (even with the custom made headshell) will be a compromise.

Marco
12-03-2013, 20:54
This is almost as bad: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/THORENS-TD124-MkII-turntable-MINT-CONDITION-original-packaging-SUPERB-/221191782723?_trksid=p2047675.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%2 6asc%3D14513%26meid%3D6198150039624798332%26pid%3D 100005%26prg%3D1048%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D281076454533%2 6

Jeez, the armboard looks like it's been scraped out with a pen knife by a drunken school boy! :rolleyes:

Personally, I'd buy bugger all from someone who seems quite happy vandalising (that cut-out shambles deserves no other description) such a lovely old T/T :nono:

Andre would have a fit!!

Marco.

Barry
12-03-2013, 21:04
Jeez, the armboard looks like it's been scraped out with a pen knife by a drunken school boy! :rolleyes:

Personally, I'd buy bugger all from someone who seems quite happy vandalising (that cut-out shambles deserves no other description) such a lovely old T/T :nono:

Andre would have a fit!!

Marco.

Agreed. If I had been the seller, I would have had a new arm board made for the sale. Appearances are everything!

But such is the attraction of these decks these days, that the seller is quite likely to find someone who will pay the asking price - especially as it has the original packaging.

But £2,000? You can buy an EMT 930 for only a little more.

Jonboy
12-03-2013, 21:20
you must of touched on a raw nerve as its now unlisted :lol:

Beobloke
13-03-2013, 11:49
The arm interests me rather more than the T/T :)
Marco.

As Barry says, the EPU100 uses plug-in pickup heads and the whole thing is rather lovely. I speak from experience as I used to have a boxed, immaculate one with two heads and stupidly sold it! :doh:

See here: http://www.vinylengine.com/library/emi/epu-100.shtml

Frankly, the headshell on the eBay item that appears to have been knocked up in a GCSE woodwork class does the arm no favours at all IMHO.



Btw, have you done anything yet with the Gates T/Ts you bought - or have they been consigned to the 'projects in progress' pile, along with your other 30-odd vintage turntables? ;)

Marco.

The Gates are still awaiting attention. At the moment I'm concentrating on selling some unwanted items to clear the study and replenish the coffers a bit! I'm also awaiting feedback from a friend who's having an idler wheel refurbished as both Gates idlers need re-doing. If he's happy with the work done for him, then they'll be heading to the same place.

Trouble is, if I try and stick to my 'first in-first out' principle there are two and a half pairs of speakers and an ex-BBC Technics SP10 that ought to be sorted out first!

Rare Bird
13-03-2013, 12:04
Actually last year ive seen at least four of those EMI 'EPU100' uni-pivot arms

istari_knight
13-03-2013, 14:08
Some elliptical goodness http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hacker-LS1500B-3-way-speakers-c-1973-with-stands-/130868013037?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item1e785767ed

Rare Bird
13-03-2013, 14:10
They should perform well with the EMI/Peerless units.

istari_knight
13-03-2013, 14:17
They should perform well with the EMI/Peerless units.

Those Peerless tweeters appear to be the same as on my old TLS50's. If those EMI's are up to it they'll sound fab... Gotta be worth £125.

Rare Bird
13-03-2013, 14:25
Aye well the EMI units sounded good in the early B&W & Monitor Audio speakers i see why not..

MikeMusic
13-03-2013, 15:07
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rega-Isis-Flagship-CD-Player-1-CW121JR-/400408309871?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiF i_CDPlayerSeparates&hash=item5d3a31f06f

Cheap
If you have the original receipt you have the lifetime guarantee which has to be worth a few bob, plus 2 matched CD transports on the shelf for you at Rega HQ

istari_knight
13-03-2013, 17:18
Nice budget amp for someone http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LUXMAN-L-113A-Integrated-Amplifier-/171006618287?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiF i_Amplifiers&hash=item27d0c9eaaf

istari_knight
13-03-2013, 17:24
Aye well the EMI units sounded good in the early B&W & Monitor Audio speakers i see why not..

I used to have Mordaunt-Shorts attempt to revive the elliptical driver

http://www.avforums.com/forums/attachments/speakers/15567d1119867223-few-speaker-sub-questions-rel-mordaunt-short-ms815-816.jpg

They were surprisingly good but the elliptical drivers look like 6x9 parcel shelf screamers :(

walpurgis
13-03-2013, 17:39
Some elliptical goodness http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hacker-LS1500B-3-way-speakers-c-1973-with-stands-/130868013037?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item1e785767ed

I've had no end of those 13" x 9" EMI elliptical units, my favourite being the cast frame 14A/770N, very nice, whopping magnet too. Also had quite a few of the Peerless tweeters.

Mr Kipling
13-03-2013, 18:11
As Barry says, the EPU100 uses plug-in pickup heads and the whole thing is rather lovely. I speak from experience as I used to have a boxed, immaculate one with two heads and stupidly sold it! :doh:

See here: http://www.vinylengine.com/library/emi/epu-100.shtml

Frankly, the headshell on the eBay item that appears to have been knocked up in a GCSE woodwork class does the arm no favours at all IMHO.



The Gates are still awaiting attention. At the moment I'm concentrating on selling some unwanted items to clear the study and replenish the coffers a bit! I'm also awaiting feedback from a friend who's having an idler wheel refurbished as both Gates idlers need re-doing. If he's happy with the work done for him, then they'll be heading to the same place.

Trouble is, if I try and stick to my 'first in-first out' principle there are two and a half pairs of speakers and an ex-BBC Technics SP10 that ought to be sorted out first!

Is this what it should look like? Looks neat.

walpurgis
13-03-2013, 21:09
I hope people are bidding on this for nostalgic reasons and not because they think it will sound nice.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Garrard-SP25-MK-11-turntable-/271167675113?pt=UK_Sound_Vision_Other&hash=item3f22da5ae9

walpurgis
13-03-2013, 21:16
Here we go again. More lunatic bidding on Goodmans Maxims. They just ain't worth it! Wonder where the bids on this pair will end up.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Goodmans-Maxim-Hi-Fi-Speaker-Pair-/200903198687?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item2ec6c387df

Mr Kipling
13-03-2013, 22:07
There's a "Buy Now" pair for £600. But I'm too tired to go back and look for them.

southall-1998
14-03-2013, 01:08
Nice!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LEAK-STEREO-20-VALVE-POWER-TUBE-AMPLIFIER-BOX-ALL-MULLARD-VALVES-/290878729068?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3 D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D6225942444999818455%26pid%3 D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D290878729068% 26

wiicrackpot
14-03-2013, 01:32
My fave Proac speaker but spot the difference, :eek: love to hear the end result.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Proac-Studio-100-Stereo-Monitor-Speakers-Audiophile-Professional-UK-/330887957053?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item4d0a758a3d

wii.

Jonboy
14-03-2013, 07:39
Nice!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LEAK-STEREO-20-VALVE-POWER-TUBE-AMPLIFIER-BOX-ALL-MULLARD-VALVES-/290878729068?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3 D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D6225942444999818455%26pid%3 D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D290878729068% 26


Very nice and the best model to have, i've got my name on one in the same condition and boxed as well

Nick_G
14-03-2013, 19:12
A Sony ST-5950SD tuner, BIN £39:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VINTAGE-SONY-ST-5950-SD-AM-FM-Tuner-Radio-Hi-Fi-HiFi-Stereo-Separates-/281078412888?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiF i_Tuners&hash=item4171943658

Seems like a great buy to me. No affiliation.

walpurgis
14-03-2013, 21:14
Be serious! £250 for a pair of Wharfedale Dentons. Dream on.

The seller says these are rare, he may be right. 'Cos we used to throw these into skips as they were an embarrassment to own.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ORIGINAL-1967-Vintage-Wharfedale-Denton-Speakers-VERY-RARE-/271164562312?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item3f22aadb88

walpurgis
14-03-2013, 21:19
Apparently this Aiwa CD player is "High End". Ah, that would explain the enormous £59.99 price tag. It is also "British Made" (my arse).

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-Aiwa-XC-900-1-bit-CD-Player-SUPERB-SOUND-High-End-Audiophile-BRITISH-MADE-/281076373410?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiF i_CDPlayerSeparates&hash=item41717517a2

HoraceW
14-03-2013, 21:33
Actually the Aiwa XC-900 was in fact made in the UK.

istari_knight
14-03-2013, 21:53
Made or assembled ? :eyebrows:

walpurgis
14-03-2013, 21:58
Made or assembled ? :eyebrows:

Exactly!

synsei
15-03-2013, 07:51
And it was a pretty good CDP too... :eyebrows:

Geoff, are you in fact the ebay equivalent of Wowbagger The Infinitely Prolonged from Hitchhikers? :lol: :cool:

walpurgis
15-03-2013, 10:37
Geoff, are you in fact the ebay equivalent of Wowbagger The Infinitely Prolonged from Hitchhikers? :lol: :cool:

Ah, you found me out then!

Firebottle
15-03-2013, 11:55
Does this seem cheap to you?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Music-Angel-MINI-X3-EL34-x-2-EL34B-Single-ended-Vacuum-Tube-Integrated-Amplifier-/310403538148?_trksid=p2047675.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%2 6asc%3D14513%26meid%3D6259155040118824151%26pid%3D 100005%26prg%3D1048%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D310266428191%2 6

..and where do they get 24W output SE from an EL34? :mental:

istari_knight
15-03-2013, 12:08
Does this seem cheap to you?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Music-Angel-MINI-X3-EL34-x-2-EL34B-Single-ended-Vacuum-Tube-Integrated-Amplifier-/310403538148?_trksid=p2047675.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%2 6asc%3D14513%26meid%3D6259155040118824151%26pid%3D 100005%26prg%3D1048%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D310266428191%2 6

..and where do they get 24W output SE from an EL34? :mental:

Got one of those s/h a couple of years ago for £30 - The owner "just wanted rid of it."

It was pure trash, in a vain attempt to improve it I installed a load of Svetlana valves but it was still awful... One of the worst amplifiers I have ever heard.

Thing Fish
15-03-2013, 12:10
£5000 really...?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenco-75-with-EMI-epu100-tonearm-Alternative-to-Garrard-301-or-Thorens-TD124-/281076454533?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiF i_Turntables&hash=item4171765485

seoirse2002
15-03-2013, 14:07
Looks like someone got a bargain....http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281075730374?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch% 2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D28107 5730374%26_rdc%3D1

jandl100
15-03-2013, 14:24
Errr -- I've been more than a bit surprised by these quite cheap interconnects.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/270412119580?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

If you like a well-focussed and very detailed sound, give them a try! ;)

istari_knight
15-03-2013, 15:34
Errr -- I've been more than a bit surprised by these quite cheap interconnects.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/270412119580?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

If you like a well-focussed and very detailed sound, give them a try! ;)

I like the name! :lol: They should make an angel of death® power cable... I can see it now, fuseless plug/solid copper conductors with "air" insulation...

walpurgis
15-03-2013, 18:04
The speakers you always promised yourself!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/speakers-/321086442064?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiF i_Amplifiers&hash=item4ac23e4a50

They look like real horrors. Not just one of those awful Piezo tweeters, but five in each cabinet. God knows what these sound like. It doesn't bear thinking about.

southall-1998
15-03-2013, 18:09
The speakers you always promised yourself!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/speakers-/321086442064?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiF i_Amplifiers&hash=item4ac23e4a50

They look like real horrors. Not just one of those awful Piezo tweeters, but five in each cabinet. God knows what these sound like. It doesn't bear thinking about.

They might sound better than Tannoy's. You just never know!

walpurgis
15-03-2013, 18:23
They might sound better than Tannoy's. You just never know!

Quite true, one never knows. However, some things are less likely than others.

walpurgis
15-03-2013, 18:27
Gilbert Briggs would turn in his grave if he could see things like this.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/wharfdale-speakers-/130865234656?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item1e782d02e0

This is the kind of rubbish you see in a box of junk under a table at a boot sale.

Shame seeing a name of such standing associated with tat. Wharfedale were one of The Greats.

MartinT
15-03-2013, 18:29
I really dislike the re-use of a classic name for selling shite. AR in the USA have gone the same way :(

southall-1998
15-03-2013, 18:47
Someday I will try some IMF Super Compact Speakers.

Nice looking pair here...bit pricey though. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/IMF-Super-Compact-Speakers-/350736918130?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item51a98ca672

istari_knight
15-03-2013, 19:25
Someday I will try some IMF Super Compact Speakers.

Nice looking pair here...bit pricey though. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/IMF-Super-Compact-Speakers-/350736918130?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item51a98ca672

If they're anything like the TLS50 they will be bloody amazing on the end of a powerful amp.

From experience you have to be careful with the crossovers, they are perfectly balanced in stock form. I spent £200 on top notch technically superior parts & it ruined the sound :(

istari_knight
15-03-2013, 19:52
Supposed to be quite good http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WHARFDALE-COLERIDGE-C-CLASS-SPEAKERS-CIRCA-1990-CERAMIC-TWEETER-MODEL-PAIR-OF-/370779034840?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item56542714d8

Covenant
15-03-2013, 20:21
If they're anything like the TLS50 they will be bloody amazing on the end of a powerful amp.

From experience you have to be careful with the crossovers, they are perfectly balanced in stock form. I spent £200 on top notch technically superior parts & it ruined the sound :(

:doh: There is a pair of them in my father in laws garage. I gave him them years ago for helping me build our house. Never had the courage to ask for them back.
Just sitting there covered in a bit of sack cloth......

walpurgis
15-03-2013, 20:30
Someday I will try some IMF Super Compact Speakers.

Nice looking pair here...bit pricey though. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/IMF-Super-Compact-Speakers-/350736918130?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item51a98ca672

I wouldn't bother. I've owned them, I suppose they were OK in their day, but nothing special really and that hard paper mid unit makes itself known a bit too obviously.

And no, they are nothing like the TLS50!

If you want something worthy, how about these:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GOODMANS-GOODWOOD-SPEAKERS-Good-condition-/171003910538?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item27d0a0998a

Nice, in Ware, Herts.

walpurgis
15-03-2013, 20:49
These are nice, AR4-XA speakers in Oxfordshire. Good little speakers from about 1972, they sound lovely on the end of a valve amp. Cloth roll surrounds that never rot too. Badges missing.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/A-PAIR-OF-ACOUSTIC-RESEARCH-AR4-XA-WALNUT-FINISH-SPEAKERS-/111027877922?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item19d9c6f822

southall-1998
15-03-2013, 22:31
I wouldn't bother. I've owned them, I suppose they were OK in their day, but nothing special really and that hard paper mid unit makes itself known a bit too obviously.

And no, they are nothing like the TLS50!

If you want something worthy, how about these:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GOODMANS-GOODWOOD-SPEAKERS-Good-condition-/171003910538?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item27d0a0998a

Nice, in Ware, Herts.

Your new user name: ''1000speakers'' :D

How many speakers have you heard and owned in your whole life?

synsei
15-03-2013, 22:38
Your new user name: ''1000speakers'' :D

How many speakers have you heard and owned in your whole life?

You seem to have discovered Geoff's new Native American name Shane, 'Listens to a thousand speakers' hehe

walpurgis
15-03-2013, 23:07
Your new user name: ''1000speakers'' :D

How many speakers have you heard and owned in your whole life?

I couldn't possibly guess what I've heard. I've owned hundreds of pairs at least and that's not including the ones I've built for myself and other people (at least 50 pairs). And as for amps and TTs, etc., the same applies. I seriously doubt if there are many people outside of trade circles who've had so much gear through their hands.

Here's a little list of the speaker makes I can remember owning offhand (there'll be more).

Tannoy (obviously), KEF, Videoton, EMI, Sonab, AR, Wharfedale, Lowther, Proac, Cura, Tandberg, Celef, Technics, Goodmans, B&W, Studiocraft, Dynaudio, Mordaunt Short, Celestion, JPI, Mission, Bose, Sony, B&O, Monitor Audio, Phillips, Quad, Eagle, Magnat, Rogers, IMF.

And that lot is just for starters, I expect more will come to mind.

Alex_UK
15-03-2013, 23:15
And that lot is just for starters, I expect more will come to mind.

Rogers, Harbeth, Spendor - or not a BBC legacy fan Geoff?

walpurgis
15-03-2013, 23:42
Rogers, Harbeth, Spendor - or not a BBC legacy fan Geoff?

No!

I have no specific allegiances apart from Tannoy.

wiicrackpot
16-03-2013, 08:31
Rogers, Harbeth, Spendor - or not a BBC legacy fan Geoff?




No!


Then you ought to give hifidave a call and get your derrier in front of a pair of SHL5, to coin a phrase from Oor Rabbie,
''But to hear her was to love her, love but her and love for ever''. :)

jandl100
16-03-2013, 08:39
Then you ought to give hifidave a call and get your derrier in front of a pair of SHL5, to coin a phrase from Oor Rabbie,
''But to see her was to love her, love but her and love for ever''. :)

Werll - they aren't for everyone, Alex. ;)

Mind you, I dislike Tannoys as well! :eyebrows:

Alex_UK
16-03-2013, 09:06
I know not everyone's cuppa Jerry, just curious if Geoff had ever tried any. I know you'll disagree (;)) but the SHL5's are still my favourite speakers - although the Tannoy Lancasters you used at Scalford in 2011 ran them close! :lol:

jandl100
16-03-2013, 09:08
yep - I think our brains are just wired up differently! :)

Marco
16-03-2013, 10:13
Hi Jerry,

Did you manage to hear Greg (Nagraboy's) system at Scalford?

He had a DCS Puccini CDP, Nagra MSA power amp and Harbeth Compact 7ES 3 speakers. See this thread on the Wam, here: http://www.hifiwigwam.com/showthread.php?76066-Nagra-MSA-my-new-power-amp!

To my ears, it sounded stunning, playing a selection of classical music - really very realistic, as one could hear every nuanced scratch and pluck of strings, together with the woody resonance of cellos, almost as clearly as if it were happening in front of you. A friend, who was with me, and I, were in awe! :eek:

I get your dislike of Tannoys, but it's difficult to understand what it is you don't like about Harbeths, which are speakers designed to excel with classical music and the accurate reproduction of all acoustic (non-amplified) instruments :scratch:

Maybe the kit you've heard them with so far just hasn't gelled with them?

Marco.

wiicrackpot
16-03-2013, 10:18
Maybe the kit you've heard them with so far just hasn't gelled with them?

Marco.

Very diplomatic of you, i initially typed ''if you don't like the Harbeth sound,blame the source'' but refrained from hitting reply button,
don't want no falling out with Jerry, he's a good guy. :D

jandl100
16-03-2013, 10:39
Umm.
I'm trying to think of a diplomatic way of putting this myself! .... :lol:

Are Harbeths perfect?
No.
Can I hear why some folks love them?
Yes.

For me they lack the verve and intensity of real music.
They do it a lot better than most "BBC Heritage" speakers, most of which I wouldn't give the time of day. God, they are boring once you've gotten over the genuine awe of their flat frequency response. Makes watching paint dry seem a scintillating experience.
.... Spendors, Rogers etc. :zzz:

Harbeths do do it better, but it's still a bit tedious.
I heard that trait as soon as I went into Greg's room at Scalford. Sorry. :o

The 'spang' of a plucked note, say, is there (the detail) but not the dynamic verve that drives it (the pizzaz).
Yes, they are detailed. But for me they lack too much of the underlying dynamic drive that brings music to life.

It's just the way I hear it.
I can't help it, maybe I need medical help. :)

wiicrackpot
16-03-2013, 10:47
Jeeez Jerry !!, just popped into the HFS forum and you've slipped a cheeky one in, :D fair enough, i know you like things bright, :eek: only joa'kin.:D

I can honestly said there's not much out there that i've listened to that i've not like some aspects of apart from Heresy II, :o
but i have extreme love for Harbs, especially the SHL5 i had the pleasure of owning once. :)

jandl100
16-03-2013, 10:54
Jeeez Jerry !!, just popped into the HFS forum and you've slipped a cheeky one in, :D

Who? Me?

Nah, surely not.

I've not been back to that den of idjuts since I did my leetle flounce. :eyebrows:



I can honestly said there's not much out there that i've listened to that i've not like some aspects of apart from Heresy II...

Fair enough, and that goes for me too.

I even liked aspects of the Heresy II - a real dynamic bouncy enthusiasm to the sound, even if it was horribly coloured.

Don't get me wrong - I really enjoy what Harbeths do well (to my ears) but I just can't get on with what I hear as the underlying tedium of the presentation, and I would choose not to live with that.

Life's too short for boring hifi! :D

I've had lots of kit that I really enjoyed that was obviously flawed.
You just have to choose the compromises that you are happy with. :cool:

Marco
16-03-2013, 11:09
The 'spang' of a plucked note, say, is there (the detail) but not the dynamic verve that drives it (the pizzaz).
Yes, they are detailed. But for me they lack too much of the underlying dynamic drive that brings music to life.


Fairy muff... However, when I was in Greg's room, there was some fairly simple solo cello, violin, etc, being played - nothing which required "pizzaz" - and it sounded extremely realistic (I listen to a lot of real instruments being played, so I know how they are supposed to sound).

Perhaps it's different when the music is more demanding, which then shows up their lack of "dynamic drive"? It would've been interesting to have heard them reproduce Shossy's 10th!! :eyebrows:

Marco.

jandl100
16-03-2013, 11:11
.... It would've been interesting to have heard them reproduce Shossy's 10th!! :eyebrows:

Marco.

eggzaktly :exactly:

wiicrackpot
16-03-2013, 12:11
Perhaps it's different when the music is more demanding, which then shows up their lack of "dynamic drive"? It would've been interesting to have heard them reproduce Shossy's 10th!! :eyebrows:

Marco.


eggzaktly :exactly:
Thats where i'll have to bow out guys, no classical fan plus i know how to pick my fights. :D

Rare Bird
16-03-2013, 16:07
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ORTOFON-2M-RED-CARTRIDGE-/261185885122?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiF i_Turntables&hash=item3ccfe453c2

daytona600
16-03-2013, 17:22
any led zep fans out there with deeeeeep pockets
own a lot of 45rpm reissues myself , some sound superb likethe new doors infinite box - but not at this price

http://www.ebay.com/itm/160991266523?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

istari_knight
16-03-2013, 18:42
Very good at playing CD's these are http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Toshiba-SD-900EE-DVD-audio-HDCD-DVD-audio-mint-top-of-range-remote-manual-/111028360104?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_Video_DVDPla yers_Recorders&hash=item19d9ce53a8

wiicrackpot
16-03-2013, 19:26
Very good at playing CD's these are http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Toshiba-SD-900EE-DVD-audio-HDCD-DVD-audio-mint-top-of-range-remote-manual-/111028360104?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_Video_DVDPla yers_Recorders&hash=item19d9ce53a8
Exactly James, tis what i use to spin my silver discs, killer transport seemingly if you want to partner it with an outboard DAC.

southall-1998
16-03-2013, 19:39
Exactly James, tis what i use to spin my silver discs, killer transport seemingly if you want to partner it with an outboard DAC.

How does it sound as a CD Player on it's own?

walpurgis
16-03-2013, 19:50
Then you ought to give hifidave a call and get your derrier in front of a pair of SHL5, to coin a phrase from Oor Rabbie,
''But to hear her was to love her, love but her and love for ever''. :)

No, very happy with what I've got. You'd have a job to better it!

Mike - H
16-03-2013, 19:52
I was informed that my Toshiba HD E-1 would do the same, never followed it up, should I?

wiicrackpot
16-03-2013, 20:15
How does it sound as a CD Player on it's own?
Stellar, most of what peeps posts about top notch C.D. players apply,
i've never had the urge to change to anything the 7 or so years i've had it, but most importantly it's never missed a beat,
reads anything you throw at it and that transport never missed a beat, all for the £80.00 it owes me. :)

No, very happy with what I've got. You'd have a job to better it!
Geoff, i am sure you love what your favoured speakers do and so do i,;) but there's room at the top for both brands. :cool:

walpurgis
16-03-2013, 20:59
Decent looking KEF 104 AB speakers in Epping. May go cheap!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-KEF-Speakers-/330886980327?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item4d0a66a2e7

RoboCopper
16-03-2013, 21:05
Errr -- I've been more than a bit surprised by these quite cheap interconnects.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/270412119580?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

If you like a well-focussed and very detailed sound, give them a try! ;)

There is cheaper version :)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RF-Coaxial-cable-M17-94-RG179-20-feet-/150883962250?pt=US_Radio_Comm_Coaxial_Cables_Conne ctors&hash=item2321628d8a

walpurgis
16-03-2013, 22:35
Ooooh! Look, very rare, very sought after, Goodmans 12" Triaxiom dual concentric/coaxial drivers in original cabinets with ARU unit in back. I expect these will go for a fortune.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Goodmans-12-Dual-Concentric-Speakers-Original-Cabs-Great-Sound-Quality-/390549142018?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item5aee8afa02

walpurgis
16-03-2013, 22:45
Vintage Rotel 610 integrated amplifier in very nice condition. Was top of the UK range early seventies. Decent, well made amp!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rotel-amp-ra-610-integrated-amplifier-retro-vintage-/281077060548?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiF i_Amplifiers&hash=item41717f93c4

Rare Bird
16-03-2013, 22:46
Vintage Rotel 610 integrated amplifier in very nice condition. Was top of the UK range early seventies. Decent, well made amp!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rotel-amp-ra-610-integrated-amplifier-retro-vintage-/281077060548?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiF i_Amplifiers&hash=item41717f93c4


Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh :eyebrows:

However people prefer the 'RA-310' because it doesnt have the 'RA-610' sliders

Jonboy
16-03-2013, 23:10
I expect these will go for a fortune.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Goodmans-12-Dual-Concentric-Speakers-Original-Cabs-Great-Sound-Quality-/390549142018?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item5aee8afa02


They will now you have told everyone :lol:

southall-1998
16-03-2013, 23:27
They will now you have told everyone :lol:

I know, Geoff is too bloody fast with himself :D

walpurgis
17-03-2013, 01:23
I know, Geoff is too bloody fast with himself :D

I personally don't care, as I don't want them, nice as they are. My Tannoys are better (and I keep quiet about the stuff I'll bid on).

nat8808
17-03-2013, 04:16
If these



http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/270412119580?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649


..are made of this..


There is cheaper version :)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RF-Coaxial-cable-M17-94-RG179-20-feet-/150883962250?pt=US_Radio_Comm_Coaxial_Cables_Conne ctors&hash=item2321628d8a

..and is a chinese copy (perhaps just off the same production line) of this from Belden

http://uk.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Belden-Wire-Cable/83264-001100/?qs=4D8KBDWWTru91DIjULy1vg==

then the conductor is silver plated copper covered steel..

Steel is something the first cable neglects to mention.

That's not to say that the steel takes any signal due to it "travelling" on the surface, but normally not considered for hifi.

nat8808
17-03-2013, 04:19
Decca - Kelly ribbons for £50 in some MS500s:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171006978199

Someone honerable should get them before they're stripped for the ribbons to sell for a measly £100 profit.

nat8808
17-03-2013, 04:24
Marantz Precision P830s for very cheap, needing a refoam:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330886971255

This is what they should look like under the grills: http://img30.otofotki.pl/obrazki/sf97_1.JPG

Look nice - any good?

Marco
17-03-2013, 09:46
Those look like they've been made by JBL. If so, they'll be quality... Or perhaps they're just cheap lookalikes? Mmm...

Marco.

Macca
17-03-2013, 09:52
There are a lot of JBL Century 'clones' out there - Technics, Akai, even seen some Goodmans efforts once, white bass driver, level controls the lot. In crack convertors. I would have bought them but one bass driver had coil rub. Never seen another pair.

DSJR
17-03-2013, 11:02
A lot of these types used to "squawk" as I remember (even the JBL originals), the bass gains swamped by the midrange sadly. Not as fun looking, but you could look out for the later JBL versions (crackle black finish only for the pro market) - which I think had "B" and "C" monikas after the 4310 and 4410 numbers (I forget now, but new, the 4410C? was around £1300pr ten or so years ago IIRC) and with much better crossover design to bring the concept up to date......

walpurgis
17-03-2013, 11:39
The Pioneer HP series of speakers were very JBL like, apart from the foil super tweeter.

walpurgis
17-03-2013, 11:51
Just won the bidding on this (thanks Andr'e). Hope I didn't pay too much.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/140930111951?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

Rare Bird
17-03-2013, 14:18
That went foir a bargin price imho..Well done Geoff.

southall-1998
17-03-2013, 14:50
Big Tannoy Monitors.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/tannoy-DMT215-speakers-/121079512775?pt=UK_ConElec_SpeakersPASystems_RL&hash=item1c30e6bec7

southall-1998
17-03-2013, 14:52
Have to say these do look nice!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tannoy-Kendrick-Fort-15-SE-/190812042986?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item2c6d48b6ea

walpurgis
17-03-2013, 15:31
Big Tannoy Monitors.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/tannoy-DMT215-speakers-/121079512775?pt=UK_ConElec_SpeakersPASystems_RL&hash=item1c30e6bec7

I reckon they would be ideal for your listening room Shane. Just put them next to the Magisters and you'll still have space for a pair of Ditton 66's.

southall-1998
17-03-2013, 15:38
I reckon they would be ideal for your listening room Shane. Just put them next to the Magisters and you'll still have space for a pair of Ditton 66's.

I wish :rolleyes:

Mr Kipling
17-03-2013, 16:01
The headphones you've always been promising youself: 140904424128

Rare Bird
17-03-2013, 16:07
:lolsign:

synsei
17-03-2013, 18:57
The headphones you've always been promising youself: 140904424128

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/New-Kitsound-Audio-Earmuffs-Multi-Coloured-Stripes-for-iPod-iPhone-iPad-MP3-/00/s/MTAwMFgxMDAw/z/npUAAMXQfFJRJI4r/$(KGrHqV,!qsFEFUeW9+rBRJI4re3hg~~60_12.JPG

Very nice... :lol:

Marco
17-03-2013, 18:58
Hey, Andre, they'd go with your legwarmers! :D

Marco.

Rare Bird
17-03-2013, 18:59
That's what i was thinking :eyebrows:

RoboCopper
17-03-2013, 19:00
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/New-Kitsound-Audio-Earmuffs-Multi-Coloured-Stripes-for-iPod-iPhone-iPad-MP3-/00/s/MTAwMFgxMDAw/z/npUAAMXQfFJRJI4r/$(KGrHqV,!qsFEFUeW9+rBRJI4re3hg~~60_12.JPG

Very nice... :lol:

Those are more serious looking....and priced too...
http://www.whathifi.com/news/harrods-to-sell-monster-18k-gold-headphones-for-%C2%A320000-a-pair

Mr Kipling
17-03-2013, 19:10
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/New-Kitsound-Audio-Earmuffs-Multi-Coloured-Stripes-for-iPod-iPhone-iPad-MP3-/00/s/MTAwMFgxMDAw/z/npUAAMXQfFJRJI4r/$(KGrHqV,!qsFEFUeW9+rBRJI4re3hg~~60_12.JPG

Very nice... :lol:

Thanks Dave.

walpurgis
17-03-2013, 20:00
Nakamichi 1000 cassette deck. Going cheap so far!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/nakamichi-tri-tracer-1000-high-end-cassette-deck-/160989207701?pt=UK_Sound_Vision_Cassette_Tape_Play ers&hash=item257bb45c95

Alex_UK
17-03-2013, 21:03
They will certainly match my curtains - thanks guys! :lol:

Marco
17-03-2013, 21:27
And your knickers! :D

Marco.

walpurgis
17-03-2013, 23:36
Very decent looking pair of Celestion Ditton 66 speakers in Essex. Price has not gone ballistic yet, so maybe a bargain?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Celestion-Ditton-66-Speakers-Mint-Condition-The-Ultimate-Celestion-Speakers-/230947697927?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item35c58e3507

southall-1998
17-03-2013, 23:43
Very decent looking pair of Celestion Ditton 66 speakers in Essex. Price has not gone ballistic yet, so maybe a bargain?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Celestion-Ditton-66-Speakers-Mint-Condition-The-Ultimate-Celestion-Speakers-/230947697927?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item35c58e3507

Have you owned 66s in the past ?

synsei
17-03-2013, 23:43
Just been put on, a little less than 9 days to run, 11 bids and already at £320. Watch out for a new record ;)

walpurgis
17-03-2013, 23:45
Have you owned 66s in the past ?

Nope! Heard them plenty of times though.

southall-1998
17-03-2013, 23:46
Shpongle Mini Disc. Geoff might like this.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Shpongle-you-Shpongled-MINIDISC-Ambient-TWISTED-new-unplayed-/170993912876?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3 D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D6317395714228277447%26pid%3 D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D170993912876% 26

southall-1998
17-03-2013, 23:54
Ouch!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tannoy-Monitor-Red-Orange-Dust-Cap-15-Inch-Speaker-Crossover-LSU-HF-15-L-RARE-/140919520837?pt=AU_Hi_Fi_Speakers&hash=item20cf753e45

walpurgis
18-03-2013, 00:01
Ouch!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tannoy-Monitor-Red-Orange-Dust-Cap-15-Inch-Speaker-Crossover-LSU-HF-15-L-RARE-/140919520837?pt=AU_Hi_Fi_Speakers&hash=item20cf753e45

Is it a left or right one?

istari_knight
18-03-2013, 12:08
I'd be watching these if I lived in London http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Wharfedale-Opus-M2-speakers-Atacama-SE24-stands-NO-RESERVE-/221202861334?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3 D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D6329355684275670718%26pid%3 D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D4%26sd%3D230948563839% 26

southall-1998
18-03-2013, 12:12
I'd be watching these if I lived in London http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Wharfedale-Opus-M2-speakers-Atacama-SE24-stands-NO-RESERVE-/221202861334?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3 D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D6329355684275670718%26pid%3 D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D4%26sd%3D230948563839% 26

But you can still watch them from home :D

Rare Bird
18-03-2013, 17:58
More rare than the actual amp :)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ferrograph-60-60-amplifier-handbook-/281075467640?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiF i_Amplifiers&hash=item4171674578

prestonchipfryer
18-03-2013, 18:06
The 774 looks to be in good condition on this Fons TT.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/fons-CQ30-turntable-/140935680274?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiF i_Turntables&hash=item20d06bd112

Rare Bird
18-03-2013, 18:32
Anyone ever seen the platter on that Fons when removed from the deck? Work of art

walpurgis
18-03-2013, 21:16
Another pair of Goodmans Goodwoods, in Worcester. Looks like they'll be cheap, nice speakers.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Goodmans-Goodwood-speakers-/221202010898?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item3380aad312

southall-1998
18-03-2013, 22:51
I'm tempted to bid on these!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Heavy-Duty-Partington-Dreadnought-Heavi-1-Audiophile-Isolation-Speaker-Stands-/121081211558?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3 D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D6339696742697461766%26pid%3 D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D121081211558% 26

southall-1998
18-03-2013, 23:49
Ditton 15.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rare-Early-Celestion-Ditton-15-White-ABR-Gold-Framed-Speakers-VGC-GWO-/190813572677?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3 D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D6340647261776085037%26pid%3 D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D190813572677% 26

Rare Bird
18-03-2013, 23:55
Hi Shane
Wow they are early ones (Offset terminal pods)

southall-1998
18-03-2013, 23:58
Hi Shane
Wow they are early ones (Offset terminal pods)

Good or Bad thing?

Rare Bird
19-03-2013, 00:04
Not a bad thing it's just that it's not that often you see an early pair with natural chipboard baffle boards/offset terminal pods..

walpurgis
19-03-2013, 00:08
Ditton 15.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rare-Early-Celestion-Ditton-15-White-ABR-Gold-Framed-Speakers-VGC-GWO-/190813572677?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3 D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D6340647261776085037%26pid%3 D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D190813572677% 26

I like these a lot, they just sounded right.

I've had about four pairs and they are very musical. That eBay listing is a bit pricey, you could pick up a pair for £50 to £60.

Gone are the boot sale £10 pairs, unless you're very lucky.

southall-1998
19-03-2013, 00:25
I like these a lot, they just sounded right.

I've had about four pairs and they are very musical. That eBay listing is a bit pricey, you could pick up a pair for £50 to £60.

Gone are the boot sale £10 pairs, unless you're very lucky.

Are they reasonably easy to drive?

walpurgis
19-03-2013, 00:31
Are they reasonably easy to drive?

Yes very easy to drive, they are a simple speaker design. They were called the Ditton 15 because of the 15 watt quoted power handling. But I have actually used them to pretty high levels with a 200 watt amp, so they are pretty resilient. Sensitivity is good too, over 90db at a guess.

Rare Bird
19-03-2013, 00:35
That's right Geoff around 90dB

southall-1998
19-03-2013, 00:37
Not a bad thing it's just that it's not that often you see an early pair with natural chipboard baffle boards/offset terminal pods..

Will the caps need changing by now? What exactly are ''offset terminal pods''

southall-1998
19-03-2013, 00:39
Yes very easy to drive, they are a simple speaker design. They were called the Ditton 15 because of the 15 watt quoted power handling. But I have actually used them to pretty high levels with a 200 watt amp, so they are pretty resilient. Sensitivity is good too, over 90db at a guess.

Thanks, Geoff.

Rare Bird
19-03-2013, 00:43
Caps! There's only one.. What i mean by offset is they we'rnt in the centre of the cabinet on the real early ones..

southall-1998
19-03-2013, 00:54
Caps! There's only one.. What i mean by offset is they we'rnt in the centre of the cabinet on the real early ones..

Ah, Shane gets it now :doh::lol:

walpurgis
19-03-2013, 10:03
Will the caps need changing by now? What exactly are ''offset terminal pods''

I have a pair of Ditton 15 crossovers (and tweeters) in front of me right now (see thumbnail).

There really isn't much to them. Inductor to roll the bass off and 12db section to bring the tweeter in.

istari_knight
19-03-2013, 13:46
Never liked the 15's personally... Sold a pair for £1.20 a while back, should have waited for the eBay prices to rise :doh:

Marco
19-03-2013, 20:50
Lol... Then you haven't heard them properly, dude, or perhaps not driven by a good valve amp. The 15s I have sound fantastic on the end of my system! :exactly:

Marco.

Marco
19-03-2013, 20:55
Yes very easy to drive, they are a simple speaker design. They were called the Ditton 15 because of the 15 watt quoted power handling. But I have actually used them to pretty high levels with a 200 watt amp, so they are pretty resilient. Sensitivity is good too, over 90db at a guess.

Indeed, which is exactly why they work very well on the end of a good valve amp, and likely also why they sounded pants partnered with the grainy sounding transistor amps that were around when they were born - hence why people who heard them in that context are not their biggest fans! ;)

Marco.

walpurgis
19-03-2013, 21:06
That's true, they are very revealing of coarse sounding amps. Due to the HF1300 tweeter which can sound hard and ruthless with the unsympathetic amplification.

Driven by sweet sounding valves, they really open up and come to life, delivering seriously good depth and ambience. The bottom end wallop and extension is rather surprising too.

Marco
19-03-2013, 21:09
Don't I know it brovva! That's why I always jump on the pish that folk write about these speakers who haven't heard them with the right kit...

Trust me, if they weren't any good, I wouldn't own them!!! ;)

Marco.

istari_knight
19-03-2013, 21:10
Lol... Then you haven't heard them properly, dude, or perhaps not driven by a good valve amp. The 15s I have sound fantastic on the end of my system! :exactly:

Marco.

Hehe, on the end of some very fine [IMO] transistor amps they sounded boxy, coloured & harsh with no treble. I never tried them with valves myself but I do agree, valve amps can & often do make poor speakers more palatable :ner:

Rare Bird
19-03-2013, 21:14
Does coloured mean the tweeters don't fry eardrums ;)

walpurgis
19-03-2013, 21:16
Hehe, on the end of some very fine [IMO] transistor amps they sounded boxy, coloured & harsh with no treble. I never tried them with valves myself but I do agree, valve amps can & often do make poor speakers more palatable :ner:

That doesn't sound like 'agreement' James. They're not "poor speakers", they're just particular, bit like Decca cartridges (and if anybody describes those as poor, I hate to think of the repercussions).

istari_knight
19-03-2013, 21:25
I realise I'm more than a little outnumbered here but all I'm trying to say is £10 at a carbootsale = perfect / £100 at current eBay prices ? There an awful lot of choice at that price...

istari_knight
19-03-2013, 21:31
That doesn't sound like 'agreement' James. They're not "poor speakers", they're just particular, bit like Decca cartridges (and if anybody describes those as poor, I hate to think of the repercussions).

I'm not fussed & if folks enjoy them thats all that matters but to see them universally lauded as amazing is very misleading for a casual reader on the lookout for some speakers... Surely "they can sound good if your source is predominantly vinyl & your amp is valved" would be more appropriate ? Because I know from my own experience if you rig them up to a cd player & tranny amp they sound pants.

Edit: your avatar is distracting! :D

walpurgis
19-03-2013, 21:31
Just treated myself to this Ortofon MC15 Super II at a very reasonable £73. Seems these are well liked, not had this particular Ortofon MC before.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271171294127?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

southall-1998
19-03-2013, 21:36
Just treated myself to this Ortofon MC15 Super II at a very reasonable £73. Seems these are well liked, not had this particular Ortofon MC before.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271171294127?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

Lets hope it's penis arrives straight this time :D

Marco
19-03-2013, 21:42
Hehe, on the end of some very fine [IMO] transistor amps they sounded boxy, coloured & harsh with no treble. I never tried them with valves myself but I do agree, valve amps can & often do make poor speakers more palatable :ner:

Lol... Trust me, James, you wouldn't be saying that if you heard them here! Your description of their sound is totally alien to me, with CD or vinyl :exactly:

Marco.

southall-1998
19-03-2013, 21:44
This looks like a nice amp.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pure-Sound-Guy-Sergeant-Audio-Innovation-2A3-Valve-Tube-Int-Amplifier-BOXED-/200908090188?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3 D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D6361811888739815133%26pid%3 D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D200908090188% 26

chelsea
19-03-2013, 21:59
This looks like a nice amp.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pure-Sound-Guy-Sergeant-Audio-Innovation-2A3-Valve-Tube-Int-Amplifier-BOXED-/200908090188?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3 D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D6361811888739815133%26pid%3 D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D200908090188% 26


Same as mine.
Cracking amp.

istari_knight
19-03-2013, 22:10
Lol... Trust me, James, you wouldn't be saying that if you heard them here! Your description of their sound is totally alien to me, with CD or vinyl :exactly:

Marco.

I'll give them the benefit of the doubt, I'm starting to suspect something was amiss as from my experience of them I initially found it shocking anyone liked them... They really were that bad! Guess mine were shagged :scratch:

walpurgis
19-03-2013, 22:24
Nice pair of IMF TLS50 Mk.II transmission line speakers, in Surrey. These deserve the 'Classic' description. They were IMF's domestic sized (just about) TL floorstanders at the time and sounded pretty spectacular.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/IMF-TLS50-MK-II-Main-Stereo-Speakers-/221201087995?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item33809cbdfb

Jonboy
19-03-2013, 22:51
This looks like a nice amp.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pure-Sound-Guy-Sergeant-Audio-Innovation-2A3-Valve-Tube-Int-Amplifier-BOXED-/200908090188?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3 D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D6361811888739815133%26pid%3 D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D200908090188% 26

very good it is especially on the end of my Tannoys, knocks the spots off quite a few more expensive amps

Marco
19-03-2013, 23:23
I'll give them the benefit of the doubt, I'm starting to suspect something was amiss as from my experience of them I initially found it shocking anyone liked them... They really were that bad! Guess mine were shagged :scratch:

Could be, mate, but I doubt it - more likely a simple lack of sonic synergy :)

There is so much vintage gear around that gets unfairly panned today by the uninitiated, simply because it has been heard in the wrong context - and moreover, because its performance was held back by the inferiority of some of the equipment that would've originally partnered it during the same era ;)

That's one of the reasons, for example, why the humble old Goldring G800 cartridge (or Shure M3D) can sound superb, partnered with modern phono stages, preamps, cables, etc, which no longer hobble it. There are many more examples I could quote of this, with vintage amps, speakers, turntables - all sorts!

Marco.

southall-1998
19-03-2013, 23:44
:popcorn:

julesd68
19-03-2013, 23:55
This looks like a nice amp.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pure-Sound-Guy-Sergeant-Audio-Innovation-2A3-Valve-Tube-Int-Amplifier-BOXED-/200908090188?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3 D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D6361811888739815133%26pid%3 D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D200908090188% 26

I do find it off putting when sellers don't even dust off their kit before taking photos - especially "dealers" - that's really lazy.

southall-1998
19-03-2013, 23:58
I do find it off putting when sellers don't even dust off their kit before taking photos - especially "dealers" - that's really lazy.

Don't tell me your one of those OCD sufferers :ner:

Rare Bird
20-03-2013, 00:08
Nowt wrong with OCD sufferers :D

julesd68
20-03-2013, 00:11
Don't tell me your one of those OCD sufferers :ner:

Actually yes I am! I have suffered with OCD for over 20 years. There are many, many different strands of OCD but my particular symptoms have nothing to do with cleanliness or hygiene at all.

I just can't take a seller seriously if they can't show me a nicely looked after clean item!

synsei
20-03-2013, 00:12
I just can't take a seller seriously if they can't show me a nicely looked after clean item!

+1 :thumbsup:

southall-1998
20-03-2013, 00:16
Actually yes I am! I have suffered with OCD for over 20 years. There are many, many different strands of OCD but my particular symptoms have nothing to do with cleanliness or hygiene at all.

I just can't take a seller seriously if they can't show me a nicely looked after clean item!

Well, the seller might clean the amp tomorrow! So who knows :)

The Grand Wazoo
20-03-2013, 00:17
It shows a good degree of sloppiness in my opinion. If the guy can't be arsed to clean it when it's in his own interest to be presenting himself and his goods well, how will he treat a customer with an after sales problem?

The Grand Wazoo
20-03-2013, 00:17
Well, the seller might clean the amp tomorrow! So who knows :)

But they are trying to sell it today!!!

julesd68
20-03-2013, 00:31
how will he treat a customer with an after sales problem?

My thoughts exactly.

Whilst we are on this subject I also never buy gear that is photographed outside. It just doesnt feel right to me and why run the risk of giving the item a knock?? With a very small amount of creativity and a half-decent camera you will get much better results inside.

Rare Bird
20-03-2013, 00:35
Don't know about you julian but when i see photos of used records on auction, with the record out of it's sleeve on the carpet i pass straight away, no matter how carefully he may have placed it there.

julesd68
20-03-2013, 00:39
when i see photos of used records on auction, with the record out of it's sleeve on the carpet i pass straight away.

Don't get me started on those jokers!! :lol:

walpurgis
20-03-2013, 09:34
My thoughts exactly.

Whilst we are on this subject I also never buy gear that is photographed outside. It just doesnt feel right to me and why run the risk of giving the item a knock?? With a very small amount of creativity and a half-decent camera you will get much better results inside.

I know what your saying, mind you it was a hell of a lot of bother getting my last car indoors for the photos before I sold it.

julesd68
20-03-2013, 09:40
I'm sure it was worth it for those extra thousands of pounds you got for your vintage Roller ... ;)

Barry
20-03-2013, 15:22
Someone got a fantastic bargain here: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/antique-radios-/300873267206?ssPageName=ADME%3AB%3AWNA%3AGB%3A1123&nma=true&si=C0dy16vPJHr613UtFzHRjnwImAM%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Listed as "antique radio", the Quad FM3 tuner, Quad 33 pre and Quad 405 power amp went for a mere £143!

Rare Bird
20-03-2013, 17:32
Jesus that was cheap Barry, Re-enforces what i said about typo etc on listings..

walpurgis
20-03-2013, 19:46
Here's a pair of speakers for anybody looking to upgrade. They even have an 'on/off' button!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cute-Novelty-Pink-Speakers-/181099570054?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item2a2a602386

walpurgis
20-03-2013, 19:59
Radford Monitor 180 speakers, very nice, ending very soon and not attracting high bids at the moment. In Surrey.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130868192856?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

daytona600
20-03-2013, 20:15
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DEAD-CAN-DANCE-In-Concert-3-x-LP-box-SOLD-OUT-coil-4ad-this-mortal-coil-/400438398219?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item5d3bfd0d0b

full of bloody crooks , pre-orders i,m selling @ £ 25

The Grand Wazoo
20-03-2013, 20:36
Anyone fancy a few records? (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Massive-Job-Lot-Of-Records-/290879903017?pt=UK_WSJL_Wholesale_GL&hash=item43b9cb1529)

Marco
20-03-2013, 21:09
Bloody hell... If Iived near Surrey, I'd be down there in shot to check them out!! If they looked any good, then I'd be bidding strongly on them :)

Marco.

synsei
20-03-2013, 21:13
Anyone fancy a few records? (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Massive-Job-Lot-Of-Records-/290879903017?pt=UK_WSJL_Wholesale_GL&hash=item43b9cb1529)

I wouldn't chance it, the way they are stacked is a no-no for a start and what with the damp you could end up with a very expensive White Elephant :eyebrows:

Marco
20-03-2013, 21:48
That's why I'd be checking the records out first, before bidding - and I mean checking them out... I'd be spending a few hours in there, on my hands and knees, going through as many as I could!!!

Most other folk wouldn't go to that bother and would just bid low to take a punt, and so if they were any good, I'd end up with a serious bargain! ;)

Marco.

Wakefield Turntables
20-03-2013, 22:30
Sometimes its what you DONT buy which makes your record collection special. I have 700 albums, all carefully chosen. It would do my head in if I had to go through each of those. :eek:

jollyfix
20-03-2013, 22:44
With you there Andrew. I only have about 900 LP's these days, all carefully chosen. I had so many i didn't play or were scratched to death but had a sentimental value. They just had to go.

walpurgis
20-03-2013, 23:32
I have about 300 CDs and about the same number of LPs. I just won't keep anything I don't play (I've got rid of loads).

southall-1998
21-03-2013, 00:37
Over Priced :rolleyes::lol:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Legendary-British-Celestion-Ditton-15-Speaker-Set-Beautiful-Sound-/400335337927?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3 D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D6387802734087607315%26pid%3 D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D400335337927% 26

walpurgis
21-03-2013, 00:46
Over Priced :rolleyes::lol:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Legendary-British-Celestion-Ditton-15-Speaker-Set-Beautiful-Sound-/400335337927?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3 D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D6387802734087607315%26pid%3 D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D400335337927% 26

Over here, yes.

Over there, who knows?

synsei
21-03-2013, 02:47
If we are talking classy Celestion speakers then these most definitely fit the bill, they are bleedin' gorgeous...

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/CELESTION-DITTON-551-SPEAKERS-ALL-IN-FULL-WORKING-ORDER-AMAZING-SOUND-QUALITY-/00/s/MTE4NlgxNjAw/z/EjwAAOxy14VRL-3H/$(KGrHqZ,!iQFDkOmOyF!BRL-3HG(+Q~~60_12.JPG

Celestion Ditton 551's (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CELESTION-DITTON-551-SPEAKERS-ALL-IN-FULL-WORKING-ORDER-AMAZING-SOUND-QUALITY-/390551917222?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item5aeeb552a6)

The Grand Wazoo
21-03-2013, 08:07
...classy Celestion speakers......they are bleedin' gorgeous...

Blimey!
Well, now I know for sure that one man's "bleedin' gorgeous" is another man's "arse-biscuit".

MikeMusic
21-03-2013, 08:12
Anyone fancy a few records? (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Massive-Job-Lot-Of-Records-/290879903017?pt=UK_WSJL_Wholesale_GL&hash=item43b9cb1529)

Damn, damn damn
Why did you do that ?!
They are just up the road from me .............
Tempted

Beobloke
21-03-2013, 08:39
Anyone fancy a few records? (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Massive-Job-Lot-Of-Records-/290879903017?pt=UK_WSJL_Wholesale_GL&hash=item43b9cb1529)

I predict the content will be as follows:

8% - unusual and interesting
6% - scratched/damaged and unplayable
14% - the winning bidder will own already
72% - 1970s - 1990s chart dross.

:)

The Grand Wazoo
21-03-2013, 08:44
You missed out the ones in the corner (0.6%) that have a faint whiff of cat pee. You'll have to adjust your figures accordingly!

Beobloke
21-03-2013, 08:53
I was lumping them in under 'scratched/damaged and unplayable'!

MikeMusic
21-03-2013, 08:55
I predict the content will be as follows:

8% - unusual and interesting
6% - scratched/damaged and unplayable
14% - the winning bidder will own already
72% - 1970s - 1990s chart dross.

:)
But the 8% could make it all worthwhile and so close to work where I have a load of big benches and about 1000 square feet to play with

The Grand Wazoo
21-03-2013, 09:08
I was lumping them in under 'scratched/damaged and unplayable'!

I can understand how you would make that mistake but it was sloppy work, young man - see me in my office.

They're not damaged or unplayable - that long lost copy of 'Corns and Varucas' by the Muscular Foot Band, the one that you've been hunting out for twenty years with the sock shaped sleeve, might be in there - question is, can you bring yourself to play it?

MikeMusic
21-03-2013, 09:13
I can understand how you would make that mistake but it was sloppy work, young man - see me in my office.

They're not damaged or unplayable - that long lost copy of 'Corns and Varucas' by the Muscular Foot Band, the one that you've been hunting out for twenty years with the sock shaped sleeve, might be in there - question is, can you bring yourself to play it?
:lol:
Wonderful
It's so good to have records that aren't listed anywhere and no one knows anything about them
I just got a Mark Stewart 12" limited edition of 700.
A few years time that will be pretty rare
Then there's the Neil Young Chrome Dreams I CD I have. Could be official and rare or a bootleg of some sort. Can't find it

The Grand Wazoo
21-03-2013, 09:22
That one's only listed in my mind Mike!

MikeMusic
21-03-2013, 09:24
That one's only listed in my mind Mike!

No I remember it !
:)

MartinT
21-03-2013, 09:28
Damn, damn damn
Why did you do that ?!
They are just up the road from me .............
Tempted

You'll need a serious Luton and half a dozen burly men to shift that lot! Mind you, you probably do have the staff and transport.

MikeMusic
21-03-2013, 09:33
You'll need a serious Luton and half a dozen burly men to shift that lot! Mind you, you probably do have the staff and transport.

Kendal van hire in Chertsey and I'll persuade Jimmy and Graham to come and help. We have plenty of boxes !

spendorman
21-03-2013, 13:13
Seems to be a bargain:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=111036880192&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123

Macca
21-03-2013, 13:18
Seems to be a bargain:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=111036880192&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123

More of a giveaway than a bargain - the stands alone are worth twenty notes. Pick up only though.

Rare Bird
21-03-2013, 23:41
Anyone need new Castle 'Kendal' (Mk.I) cabs?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Castle-Acoustics-Speaker-Cabinets-EX-CON-/321093594088?pt=UK_Sound_Vision_Speaker_Parts&hash=item4ac2ab6be8

Alex_UK
21-03-2013, 23:47
A beautiful pair of Rogers ls2a/2 in fabulous condition (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rogers-ls2a-2-Speakers-Monitors-/290881463384?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item43b9e2e458) - my definition of "fabulous condition" differs somewhat! :doh:

The Grand Wazoo
21-03-2013, 23:51
Those rounded off corners are what us aficionados class as 'patina' guv'nor.

Rare Bird
21-03-2013, 23:55
Rustic style feature :D

The Grand Wazoo
21-03-2013, 23:57
Yeah, makes 'em more collectable.......almost priceless.

southall-1998
22-03-2013, 00:04
Caps! There's only one.. What i mean by offset is they we'rnt in the centre of the cabinet on the real early ones..

RB,

Forgot to ask you...Are the early Ditton 15s 4 ohms?

Alex_UK
22-03-2013, 00:20
Those rounded off corners are what us aficionados class as 'patina' guv'nor.

Good job he put pictures up of that "feature" cos if I'd bought them and then found out what they were really like he'd have got a pat in da chops!

Rare Bird
22-03-2013, 13:51
RB,

Forgot to ask you...Are the early Ditton 15s 4 ohms?

Yes they are 4/8 Ohm.. Freq Range is 30Hz-15kHz

spendorman
22-03-2013, 13:55
RB,

Forgot to ask you...Are the early Ditton 15s 4 ohms?


Several early pairs here, says on the back:

"4-8 Ohms"

southall-1998
22-03-2013, 14:03
Several early pairs here, says on the back:

"4-8 Ohms"

But are they a ''pure'' 4 ohm load?

Rare Bird
22-03-2013, 14:09
Pure 4 Ohm load! whats that suppose to mean?

southall-1998
22-03-2013, 14:49
Never Mind!

Ali Tait
22-03-2013, 17:09
No speaker can be like a resister. The impedance varies with frequency.

Rare Bird
22-03-2013, 17:27
Wow they are rare

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Celestion-Ditton-25-Protective-Covers-Extremely-Rare-Made-By-Celestion-/230947712761?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item35c58e6ef9

walpurgis
22-03-2013, 19:54
But are they a ''pure'' 4 ohm load?

Hi Shane,

If you look at the impedance graph for a loudspeaker, you'll see that the measured impedance across the frequency range will swing up and down. By how much and where in the range this happens depends on the speaker design. Some speakers have wild swings in impedance, others are less radical. Quoted impedance ratings are very arbitrary and just give an average.

The Celestion Ditton 15 has, as quoted, a 4 to 8 ohm rating, you should just regard this a 6ohm speaker, although, I've measured the DC resistance of the driver coils in the past and found them to read around 6 ohms, meaning that under dynamic/driven conditions they are to all intents and purposes 8 ohm speakers.

walpurgis
22-03-2013, 21:09
Mystery Cambridge R50 speakers, They appear to have an EMI bass driver, two midrange units and an unidentifiable tweeter. Are these an early version or have they been messed about? If they have, the buyer may end up very disappointed. I've not seen a pair like this before.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/cambridge-audio-r50-floor-standing-speakers-large-kef-vintage-/111032272342?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item19da0a05d6

southall-1998
22-03-2013, 21:15
Pair of Lowther DX2 drivers in home built cabs. Based in London.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-x-1970s-Lowther-Speakers-with-modern-Lowther-DX2-Drive-Units-/151012913802?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item232912328a

walpurgis
22-03-2013, 21:23
Decent looking pair of KEF B200 SP1012 drivers at a very reasonable £40.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KEF-B200-SP1012-Large-Magnet-Mid-Bass-Drivers-Speakers-X-2-/160991534540?pt=UK_Sound_Vision_Other&hash=item257bd7ddcc

istari_knight
22-03-2013, 23:22
Bargain ? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Two-BBC-HH-AM8-12-Power-Amplifiers-for-Rogers-LS3-5a-or-Spendor-BC1-speakers-/140939036843?pt=UK_Sound_Vision_Vintage_Separates&hash=item20d09f08ab

southall-1998
22-03-2013, 23:34
Ouch! These are for parts/not working etc.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lowther-Speaker-Voigt-Domestic-Horn-mid-1930s-Collection-only-/251246256100?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3 D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D6433165184074380445%26pid%3 D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D251246256100% 26

walpurgis
22-03-2013, 23:47
Ouch! These are for parts/not working etc.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lowther-Speaker-Voigt-Domestic-Horn-mid-1930s-Collection-only-/251246256100?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3 D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D6433165184074380445%26pid%3 D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D251246256100% 26

Shane, there's only one and no drive unit.

It does seem a bit steep, even though the Voigt horns are extremely sought after (you could probably have a repro pair made for less, including the plaster horn flare).

They are supposed to sound wonderful though. Not convinced myself, but I haven't heard them. Lowther equipped speakers don't do much for me really.

synsei
22-03-2013, 23:55
So just a cabinet eh? I wonder what an Antiques Roadshow valuer would mark it up at? ;)

Barry
22-03-2013, 23:55
Anyone fancy a few records? (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Massive-Job-Lot-Of-Records-/290879903017?pt=UK_WSJL_Wholesale_GL&hash=item43b9cb1529)

Well the lot (including those pee'd on by the cat) went for £390. If there were only four rare LPs in mint condition, the buyer might make a profit. However by the looks of things, I imagine most of the records will be worthless.

synsei
22-03-2013, 23:58
They will end up being sold individually on ebay as minters :lol:

MartinT
23-03-2013, 09:45
Mystery Cambridge R50 speakers, They appear to have an EMI bass driver, two midrange units and an unidentifiable tweeter. Are these an early version or have they been messed about?

They have the right grills but I've never seen an R50 (or HFA TL) configuration like that. They should have KEF B139, B110, T27 and STC Supertweeter from memory.

They appear to have two mid drivers?!

walpurgis
23-03-2013, 21:11
Wouldn't you love these? Yuk!

Interesting description.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sony-SRS-D25-Speakers-with-Subwoofer-pink-/111036757566?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item19da4e763e

walpurgis
23-03-2013, 21:23
Very nice looking pair of Goodmans Magnum K2 speakers in Frome. Only up to £33 at the moment, ends tomorrow. Best of the Magnums in my opinion!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Goodmans-Speakers-Magnum-K2-1pair-/121082445038?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item1c31137cee

Nick_G
24-03-2013, 14:47
Someone definitely got a great bargain here:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AccuphaseT100-Tuner-/140937060010?ssPageName=ADME%3AB%3AWNA%3AGB%3A1123&nma=true&si=aZrbVeYPwM9ZCmVLyMaerQN5fsM%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

An Accuphase T-100 for the equivalent of £161! These are supposed to be better than the T-101. What a shame I'm skint!

Regards,
Nick

Rare Bird
24-03-2013, 14:50
YUM YUM Yes please

Nick_G
24-03-2013, 14:55
I can't believe there were only 7 bids on it!

Rare Bird
24-03-2013, 14:59
I can because i bought a few good tuners for next to nothing due to lack of bids, seems no one's bothered about Tuners anymore. To be honest i don't listern to radio at all have'nt for nearly 15 years.

dantheman91
24-03-2013, 16:39
Fuckin well annoyed if i did not go to a car boot i would of go that..
http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/tape-deck-now-gone/1013206292


FUCK FUCK FUCK

Rare Bird
24-03-2013, 16:39
Um i recon i won those for a fair old price..

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pair-of-tilting-speaker-stands-/171009130246?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&nma=true&si=%252BBmBSiiqj4W7n9i9W1OT3%252FqYiq0%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

Rare Bird
24-03-2013, 16:40
Fuckin well annoyed if i did not go to a car boot i would of go that..
http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/tape-deck-now-gone/1013206292


FUCK FUCK FUCK

I wouldnt entertain one that the truth.

walpurgis
24-03-2013, 20:37
I can because i bought a few good tuners for next to nothing due to lack of bids, seems no one's bothered about Tuners anymore. To be honest i don't listern to radio at all have'nt for nearly 15 years.

Gave my last one away!

Same applies to cassette decks, all gone! I'd sooner have a Minidisc recorder.

TBL
24-03-2013, 21:15
I bid 750 euro on this (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Braun-PCS-5-Vintage-Plattenspieler-High-End-Thorens-/281078481061?nma=true&si=9TMirkFHEosrgSGwnXvWbbAjLf4%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557) and not even remotely close enough.

julesd68
24-03-2013, 21:16
That deck is totally drool-worthy Ian - never seen one before ...

Rare Bird
24-03-2013, 21:18
Nice but without the original plinth & colour i feel the whole Dieter Rams aesthetics design is no more..