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Marco
11-08-2011, 21:43
Lol - I don't like bad small speakers (and sadly, these days, most fall into that category, to my ears), but there are plenty of small vintage speakers I like, including the original Wharfdale Diamonds, and I will fully acknowledge their sonic qualities.

What entranced me with the Chartwells was their sublime midrange, which really projected voices and acoustic instruments into the room with a vibrancy, realism and lack of coloration, which is seldom heard these days.

In the midrange, they sound rather like my Lockwoods, only, erm, 'smaller'! :eyebrows:

I'd run the Chartwells, if I had to, WAY before I would bloody ADM9s!!! ;)

Marco.

DSJR
11-08-2011, 21:54
ADM9.1Ts are being joined with better 9's and bigga-9's I understand, the floor standars being abandoned mainly due to the costs of doing it right with a large bass unit - I don't think many would buy an active £5K style floor stander blind online..

Unlike you mate, I have compared old and newer LS3/5A's with other smaller and bigger speakers and honestly feel confident in my views re the P3ESR's. Things really have moved on in smaller speaker reproduction..

Actually, what I'd really like to try are the cheapo babies out there on the end of a decent system. There's a "developed and enlarged" NS10 derivative for £120pr which I think could give established audiophool models a real fright -

http://www.studiospares.com/studio-monitors/studiospares-sn10-nearfield-monitors-pair/invt/248000/

The little Q Acoustics may also be great little passives on a better system for all I know - it's some years now since I last heard the likes of MA BR2's and KEF Q1's and similar and the £30 specials from China ;) may well be quite good for all I know:)

Marco
11-08-2011, 21:57
Sure, all I know is that I loved what I heard at the time (about 4 years ago) from the Chartwells, which was incidentally on the end of EAR 509 valve amps...

Have you heard LS3/5as with toobs? :)

Marco.

Dr Bunsen Honeydew
11-08-2011, 21:58
Recently bought off eBay: a Cambridge Audio P50 integrated amplifier.

The elegant, slim, ‘low-profile’ look was achieved by using a toroidal mains transformer. I believe Cambridge Audio were one of the first to use toroidal transformers.

Avel Lindberg a UK transformer company developed the toroid mains transformer in the early 70's, but couldn't patent it as it had been done before but not commercially. They were the origin of Naim products as well, but at least Naim knew how to use them. Cambridge just put them in a slim case bolted to the bottom plate with the screw head touching the top plate, creating what is known as a shorted turn, not only did this burn out the transformer but put the primary (mains) voltage on the case, but at quite low current, to give people shocks. I don't know what Stan Curtis was thinking of as he was usually a good designer if not business man.

Cambridge were very lucky they didn't get the arse sued out of them or prosecuted under health and safety, but that was the 70's, no one gave a toss.

So go careful as all Cambridge did was put a bit of insulation above the transformer bolt, if that insulation fails you could be in for a nasty shock.

Alex_UK
11-08-2011, 22:24
Regardless of the sound, I'm not sure Barry was intending on spending £1,500 + on speakers for his third system? Although he never said, so I'm just guessing! ;)

Marco
11-08-2011, 22:44
Lol - indeed, I doubt it! I was really outlining the sort of speakers I'd likely use in a bedroom system, should I ever assemble such a thing.

My listening room upstairs is right next to our bedroom, so I just open the door and let the tunes in! ;)

Marco.

Alex_UK
11-08-2011, 22:47
And there was me thinking one of your Lockwoods is your bedroom! :lol:

Marco
11-08-2011, 22:50
That's only when our parties get *really* wild! :eyebrows:

Marco.

MartinT
12-08-2011, 06:47
Cambridge Audio later developed the R40 and R50 transmission line speaker. I did have frequent access to the R50s: a four-way design using the popular combination of KEF B139 woofer, B110 mid, Celestion HF1300 tweeter and STC (Coles) super-tweeter. I liked them, but when I heard the Quads they were what I was looking for.

I had a pair of R40s from the age of 19 (I bought them unfinished from liquidated stock) and they gave me great sound for the next six years. B139, B110 and T27 - classic combo. They were still running well at a friend's house until very recently, sadly now gone.

MartinT
12-08-2011, 06:51
Have you heard LS3/5as with toobs? :)

My friend has a pair of Rogers LS3/5as with an Art Audio Quintet valve amp. Lovely sound.

Marco
12-08-2011, 07:40
I'm not surprised, Martin! Good valve amps 'flesh out' their presentation, particularly that glorious midrange, and add weight to the bass, making them sound less 'frigid' than they do with some solid-state amps.

It would be interesting to know if Dave heard any of the LS3/5as he mentioned earlier with quality toobs :)

Marco.

spendorman
12-08-2011, 07:47
I'm not surprised, Martin! Good valve amps 'flesh out' their presentation, particularly that glorious midrange, and add weight to the bass, making them sound less 'frigid' than they do with some solid-state amps.

It would be interesting to know if Dave heard any of the LS3/5as he mentioned earlier with quality toobs :)

Marco.

My 15 Ohm Chartwell LS3/5a do seem to work very nicely with Radford STA25 III

Marco
12-08-2011, 07:53
And there we have it.... And I doubt the Beeb would've used them with toobs either ;)

Marco.

Beobloke
12-08-2011, 11:54
Well, I've just bought some PROPER back-breaking valve gear from eBay and only just down the road from me.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RIGONDA-BOLSHOI-VINTAGE-STEREO-VALVE-RADIOGRAM-EXTRAS-/200636320681?pt=UK_Collectables_RadioTelevision_Te lephony_SM&hash=item2eb6db4ba9

This will now form the basis of my new reviewing reference system, if I can tear myself away from playing with the auto tuning......;)

Macca
12-08-2011, 12:11
Well, I've just bought some PROPER back-breaking valve gear from eBay and only just down the road from me.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RIGONDA-BOLSHOI-VINTAGE-STEREO-VALVE-RADIOGRAM-EXTRAS-/200636320681?pt=UK_Collectables_RadioTelevision_Te lephony_SM&hash=item2eb6db4ba9

This will now form the basis of my new reviewing reference system, if I can tear myself away from playing with the auto tuning......;)

two of them plus a pioneer pl12D - nice:)

Did the Soviets make these specifically for export then?

spendorman
12-08-2011, 12:26
Brilliant, and a PL12D, the Rigonda speakers were reckoned to be good, never heard any though.

We have one of these, very good sound.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4144/5061252494_7408887715_b.jpg

Never gone wrong, never any parts replaced.

Beobloke
12-08-2011, 12:41
The whole Rigonda naming thing is a bit of a black art, as both of the ones I have bought are Bolshois, but the copy of the brochure shows them with "Simfonia" on the front. Equally, I have a third Rigonda radiogram already, which is a Symphony, but apparently this was known as a Bolshoi in other markets. To complicate things further, one of my newbies has the tuning scale marked in kHz and the other in metres, so I'm not sure what this signifies either!

As to the speakers, they are very good. My first introduction to Rigonda was at university when a friend offloaded an unwanted large pair of speakers onto me, which turned out to be the ones from the Symphony radiogram. After a spot of fettling they sounded superb and I used them for a few years, until one heavy night left me with a blown bass driver. The reason why became clear when I found my first matching Symphony radiogram and realised the amplifier put out a hefty 4W per channel - somewhat less than the 60W amp I was using at the time of the incident......:doh:

The speakers with the Bolshoi are a bit chunkier and deeper than the Symphony's, so comparisons wuill be interesting.

As the seller alluded, the weak point of these units is the turntable which sounds fair enough but has a ceramic cartridge, thus limiting it a bit. Naturally now I'm on the search for a Rigonda Victoria radiogram (or Intermezzo record player) which came later and had a proper transcription deck with a magnetic cartridge. Keep your eyes peeled everyone!

Hmm, maybe my Scalford Hall room next year should have a radiogram theme....

spendorman
12-08-2011, 13:13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpdQNgGFqE8

Canetoad
20-08-2011, 16:50
I was after a project turntable that would play 78 speed. My Mum has a heap of 78s left to her by my Grandfather. I don't think she has ever played any of them. I thought I'd eventually copy them all to CD for her. This is what I picked up on ebay today to do the job.

I'm looking forward to restoring it to its former glory and having a tinker with it. :eyebrows:

spendorman
20-08-2011, 16:53
I was after a project turntable that would play 78 speed. My Mum has a heap of 78s left to her by my Grandfather. I don't think she has ever played any of them. I thought I'd eventually copy them all to CD for her. This is what I picked up on ebay today to do the job.

I'm looking forward to restoring it to its former glory and having a tinker with it. :eyebrows:

If that is a 1019, great deck, Mine has as ancient B&O cartridge in it. Fantastic sound, unexpected.

Tim
20-08-2011, 17:02
Not really a bargain I guess, but to me it is. This was the first concert I ever went too - lord knows what happened to my ticket :scratch:

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/greatgig/elp.jpg

£3.70 + £1.00 postage, so more than twice what the concert cost to go to :lol:

Canetoad
20-08-2011, 18:11
If that is a 1019, great deck, Mine has as ancient B&O cartridge in it. Fantastic sound, unexpected.

Spendorman,

Yes it is. Cartridge on it is a Shure M75G. All I know is the platter rotates. Won't know if speed is accurate or if cartridge is Ok till it arrives. It looks to be in OK condition in the pictures though. Here's hoping... :eyebrows:

spendorman
20-08-2011, 18:27
Spendorman,

Yes it is. Cartridge on it is a Shure M75G. All I know is the platter rotates. Won't know if speed is accurate or if cartridge is Ok till it arrives. It looks to be in OK condition in the pictures though. Here's hoping... :eyebrows:

It's the quietest idler drive deck that I have, quieter than my TD124 II

Rare Bird
21-08-2011, 00:54
Not really a bargain I guess, but to me it is. This was the first concert I ever went too - lord knows what happened to my ticket :scratch:

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/greatgig/elp.jpg

£3.70 + £1.00 postage, so more than twice what the concert cost to go to :lol:

Probably done a runner like mine seem to have

'BSS' World Tour was a massive.

Canetoad
21-08-2011, 12:41
It's the quietest idler drive deck that I have, quieter than my TD124 II

Alex, that's very encouraging! :)

spendorman
21-08-2011, 12:45
Alex, that's very encouraging! :)

Almost belt drive quiet

Jonboy
22-08-2011, 16:46
Tannoy Lockwoods (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1970s-Tannoy-Lockwood-Academy-Monitors-spare-/290545858269?pt=UK_ConElec_SpeakersPASystems_RL&hash=item43a5e1f6dd) anyone

Jonboy
22-08-2011, 16:48
LS3/5a (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Spendor-Ls3-5a-Bookshelf-Monitor-Loudspeakers-/300590008589?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item45fc8f890d)

Beobloke
03-09-2011, 18:35
Definite rarities, but I doubt they'll be 'bargains'!

IMF SACM (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/IMF-SACM-speakers-control-studio-monitors-reference-70s-/330607688894?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item4cf9c0fcbe)

Rare Bird
03-09-2011, 18:56
Ah
Always lusted over a pair of those Adam..

MartinT
04-09-2011, 12:40
IMF SACM (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/IMF-SACM-speakers-control-studio-monitors-reference-70s-/330607688894?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item4cf9c0fcbe)

Very nice, Adam. Driver failures are going to be hard to deal with, though.

Dingdong
04-09-2011, 12:43
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230666563300?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649&autorefresh=true&autorefresh=true


My new 'musiuc centre'. Any ideas as to the models? I wonder if we can do a cheaper than chips challenge for less than £20.

Macca
04-09-2011, 12:49
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230666563300?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649&autorefresh=true&autorefresh=true


My new 'musiuc centre'. Any ideas as to the models? I wonder if we can do a cheaper than chips challenge for less than £20.

9 bids and it only got to £15! Not sure on the models but in the later eighties and early nineties Richer did do some seriously cheap Marantz stuff but it was pretty nasty and not deserving of the badge.

Alex_UK
04-09-2011, 12:50
I wonder if we can do a cheaper than chips challenge for less than £20.

That's the Cheap as Crisps* challenge! (*TM The Grand Wazoo!)

Nice find, though!

Dingdong
04-09-2011, 12:55
I reckon I'll get me £15 worth out of it. it didn't realise that I needed a 3rd system until a few minutes ago.

Alex_UK
04-09-2011, 15:35
I reckon I'll get me £15 worth out of it. it didn't realise that I needed a 3rd system until a few minutes ago.

When you get to 5... you realise it's time someone else had your bargains on eBay! I'll be getting shot of a few bits soon, I think! Still, £15 is the price of a couple of new CDs!

Jonboy
04-09-2011, 17:41
nice amp old Jap amp (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/170690032086?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_3870wt_922)

The Grand Wazoo
04-09-2011, 17:57
I spotted that too.
These speakers (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Goodmans-Dimension-8-Loudspeakers-fabulous-rare-/260840096531?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item3cbb480313)might interest someone.

Jonboy
04-09-2011, 18:10
they look interesting Chris, how about a se amp.



http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/220842063373?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_698wt_922

Dingdong
04-09-2011, 18:16
When you get to 5... you realise it's time someone else had your bargains on eBay! I'll be getting shot of a few bits soon, I think! Still, £15 is the price of a couple of new CDs!

Will be interesting to see what it when I get it home. I don't think it will be going to Scalford like my last cheapo ebay system. I made a reasonable return on bits of that system. Only got the cd player and tuner left.

The Grand Wazoo
04-09-2011, 18:32
More speakers (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ACOUSTIC-RESEARCH-LST-2-SPEAKERS-FANTASTIC-ULTRA-RARE-/270806980809?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item3f0d5a98c9#ht_500wt_1156)

MartinT
04-09-2011, 19:35
The LST-2 are smaller than the LST? I fancied the latter for many a year.

BTH K10A
05-09-2011, 00:01
Quite possibly a bargain? Need to sell your house to finance it though :lolsign:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/McIntosh-Marantz-JBL-Altec-Western-Electric-Equipment-/380365168976?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item588f87e150#ht_23504wt_1331

MartinT
05-09-2011, 05:22
My word - enough toys there for the rest of your life!

Dingdong
05-09-2011, 15:09
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/150655874676?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649&autorefresh=true

Do I really need a 4th pair of these? They are very nice for the money, though. One pair maybe for sale on here soon.

spendorman
05-09-2011, 15:14
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/150655874676?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649&autorefresh=true

Do I really need a 4th pair of these? They are very nice for the money, though. One pair maybe for sale on here soon.

Yes, then you can then like me, series/ parallel four per channel, to bring the impedance back to 8 Ohms

Rare Bird
07-09-2011, 12:18
I suppose i'll have to spill the beanz...

Scored a rareish pair of B&W 'D5' monitors last night Circa 1972 ish (Not 'DM5')..£25.00, they need a bit of work but thats nay probs.

They should be a great match for the Ferrograph 'F307/2' sex machine. :eyebrows:

Barry
07-09-2011, 16:05
I suppose i'll have to spill the beanz...

Scored a rareish pair of B&W 'D5' monitors last night Circa 1972 ish (Not 'DM5')..£25.00, they need a bit of work but thats nay probs.

They should be a great match for the Ferrograph 'F307/2' sex machine. :eyebrows:

They look good André - nice price. How do they differ from the DM5s?

Regards

PS What is the tape deck of your current 'avatar'? Is it a Braun reel-to-reel?

Jonboy
07-09-2011, 17:14
Look like a bargain Andr'e

Jonboy
07-09-2011, 17:36
Was this (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FERROGRAPH-VINTAGE-AMPLIFIER-/170691780427?pt=UK_Consumer_VintageAudio_RL&hash=item27be05df4b&autorefresh=true) one the same as your amp Andr'e

Rare Bird
08-09-2011, 10:26
30 New Old Stock/sealed boxes of Racal-Zonal Open Reel tape. £75 the lot inc postage (£2.50 each)

:carrot:

Reid Malenfant
08-09-2011, 18:25
30 New Old Stock/sealed boxes of Racal-Zonal Open Reel tape. £75 the lot inc postage (£2.50 each)

:carrot:
Now that's a bargain if ever i have seen one :) Definately considering some folks want loads more for a used cassette :eyebrows:

Nice one Andr'e!

DSJR
09-09-2011, 10:37
Was this (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FERROGRAPH-VINTAGE-AMPLIFIER-/170691780427?pt=UK_Consumer_VintageAudio_RL&hash=item27be05df4b&autorefresh=true) one the same as your amp Andr'e

I think so. We both remember the F307 with great affection for some reason :)

Rare Bird
09-09-2011, 11:19
Yeh just don't expect to buy one plug it in & sound good.You also have the socketry to contend with on the back aswell.

Here's mine Mk.II

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/307.jpg

Dingdong
09-09-2011, 18:03
My recent purchase of a pair of DM2a's turns out not be such a good deal. Both Coles are stuffed and one of the woofers rattles. Seller being a bit arsey about returning them. Four pairs were probably too many anyway. I did fancy a veneered fronted pair though.

Rare Bird
09-09-2011, 18:18
My recent purchase of a pair of DM2a's turns out not be such a good deal. Both Coles are stuffed and one of the woofers rattles. Seller being a bit arsey about returning them. Four pairs were probably too many anyway. I did fancy a veneered fronted pair though.

Falcon Acoustics are selling new Coles '4001G' Tweeters. What do you mean about rattling woofer?

Dingdong
09-09-2011, 18:27
I've got a spare set, but £74 is too much for a pair with blown Coles. I was thinking £20 would be more appropriate. What do you think?
When I had them hooked up yesterday I could sometimes hear a bit of a rattle. When I took the fronts off to measure the drivers I noticed that when you tap the magnet of the woofer it sounds as though something is loose.

Rare Bird
09-09-2011, 18:55
Hi Mark
I don't know about a Rattle but i had rubbing sound that went away by unbolting the unit turning it 180 degrees, bolt it back up..

Dingdong
09-09-2011, 18:59
It's definitely not rubbing. There just seems to be something loose in one woofer. If you turn the volume up it vibrates along with the music.
How much would a pair with 2 Coles and woofer needing replacement be worth?

Ali Tait
09-09-2011, 21:06
Sure there's not just something loose in the basket?

Dingdong
09-09-2011, 21:12
When I had the fronts off it only happened when I tapped the magnet. Just waiting of the seller to get back to me. I've told him they are only worth £20 to me.
Not the end of the world if they go back and I get refunded. I should be saving for a new preamp and an rcm.

Barry
09-09-2011, 21:47
I've got a spare set, but £74 is too much for a pair with blown Coles. I was thinking £20 would be more appropriate. What do you think?
When I had them hooked up yesterday I could sometimes hear a bit of a rattle. When I took the fronts off to measure the drivers I noticed that when you tap the magnet of the woofer it sounds as though something is loose.

Bugger! I sold four off new, unused, Coles 4001 tweeters (15 Ohm versions) to a 'new' member about a year ago for £15 each. Never heard from him again!

Would have much preferred to have sold a couple to you. But you probably don't wan't to hear that.

Good to know that the Coles are still available - and actually £74 is a reasonable price for a pair.

Regards

Dingdong
09-09-2011, 21:52
Just got a response from the seller to say that he will offer me £30 as half the cost of a used pair of Coles off ebay. Then went on to say that I might have swapped them for faulty ones.
Shouldn't have paid cash for stuff on ebay I suppose. Would've been a bit easier with Paypal. He lives just round the corner from my parents so I might nip round and have a quiet word this weekend.

Rare Bird
09-09-2011, 22:59
Honestly i cannot think of anything within the construction of those drive units that could rattle!

Dingdong
10-09-2011, 05:44
If I end up keeping them I'll investigate further. He wouldn't do any more than offer a £30 refund so I've opened a case with ebay. Not hoping for much as I paid cash, but I'll see what I can do. He's now told me I could have swapped a faulty pair of Coles in. Silly twat.

spendorman
10-09-2011, 09:52
My recent purchase of a pair of DM2a's turns out not be such a good deal. Both Coles are stuffed and one of the woofers rattles. Seller being a bit arsey about returning them. Four pairs were probably too many anyway. I did fancy a veneered fronted pair though.

I bought an immaculate looking pair of DM2a's and both Coles supertweeters were of no use. I did not even bother to get back to the seller. Probably to him the speakers worked fine. You are unluckier, having a faulty bass unit as well.

I tend to think that the midrange of the DM4 is slightly more detailed than the DM2a's.

Have been wanting to try the DM4 bass unit and crossover in the DM2a, but not got round to it.

Dingdong
11-09-2011, 07:51
I haven't yet heard a pair of DM4's. I would guess that the Dm2's have a better bass. How do they compare, in your opinion, to other speakers using the Celestion/Coles combination?

spendorman
11-09-2011, 07:57
I haven't yet heard a pair of DM4's. I would guess that the Dm2's have a better bass. How do they compare, in your opinion, to other speakers using the Celestion/Coles combination?

I prefer the DM4's to Spendor BC1's, bass better controlled and to me, a less coloured midrange. Bass is not too bad, DM2/DM2a's go down lower. But the DM4 is a nice size and compromise.

Dingdong
11-09-2011, 08:15
The DM2's are quite big lumps in my small living room, which is at a guess 5x4m. But they sound bloody good and there's no wife to be complaining about them.
They are sat on a pair of Target R2's which seem to work well with them.
I've got an idea to replace the binding posts and renew the crossover caps in one of the pairs as an experiment.

spendorman
11-09-2011, 08:29
The DM2's are quite big lumps in my small living room, which is at a guess 5x4m. But they sound bloody good and there's no wife to be complaining about them.
They are sat on a pair of Target R2's which seem to work well with them.
I've got an idea to replace the binding posts and renew the crossover caps in one of the pairs as an experiment.

I have never found an out of spec capacitor in DM1, DM2, DM2a, DM3, DM4, DM5 all of which I have and several pairs of some. The inductors are of good quality and as long as the connections to the binding post are clean and tight, nothing wrong with them either.

Some other B&W speakers use reversible electrolytic capacitors, those will probably need replacing, certainly if over 10 years old.

spendorman
11-09-2011, 08:53
I have never found an out of spec capacitor in DM1, DM2, DM2a, DM3, DM4, DM5 all of which I have and several pairs of some. The inductors are of good quality and as long as the connections to the binding post are clean and tight, nothing wrong with them either.

Some other B&W speakers use reversible electrolytic capacitors, those will probably need replacing, certainly if over 10 years old.

One other thought, the HF1300 level selector switch contacts on the DM2a's can sometimes benefit from the use off a little good switch cleaner/ lubricant such as Servisol Super 10. The two switches on the DM3 also.

Dingdong
11-09-2011, 09:34
The crossovers on my scruffy, just for spares, DM2's have DM2a written on the crossover, but have no switch. I was thinking of using them. Alternatively I could just bypass the switch, as I have it in the middle position.
I think the pre-amp maybe the weak link in the system at the moment. So that might be sorted before playing around with anything else.
And I've got to finish off my tt power supply.

spendorman
11-09-2011, 09:58
The crossovers on my scruffy, just for spares, DM2's have DM2a written on the crossover, but have no switch. I was thinking of using them. Alternatively I could just bypass the switch, as I have it in the middle position.
I think the pre-amp maybe the weak link in the system at the moment. So that might be sorted before playing around with anything else.
And I've got to finish off my tt power supply.

There were some strange mixes of DM2 and DM2a. I have two pairs of DM2a's that are marked DM2 on the back, but have the DM2a switch and came with DM2a instruction booklets.

The crossovers for the speakers with the switch and without the switch slightly are different. There are some component value changes. Also the HF1300 is connected electrically in phase in one, but out of phase in the other. Forget which is which, would have to check the circuit diagrams.


I have recently give a pair of DM2's (no 1300 level) switch to a good friend. He is delighted with the sound of them. He also has Quad ESL63's, Tannoy Chatsworths, some AR's (forget which) Small vintage MS and several others. Incidentally, his dad was Technical Manager at Vitavox.

Rare Bird
11-09-2011, 13:16
Some other B&W speakers use reversible electrolytic capacitors, those will probably need replacing, certainly if over 10 years old.

The 'D5' ELCAP's deffo need swapping out as does the wiring

spendorman
11-09-2011, 13:48
The 'D5' ELCAP's deffo need swapping out as does the wiring

Would be interesting to measure them. They could well be the reason the tweeters failed.

Rare Bird
11-09-2011, 13:54
Could well be, i think they will be better with the Audax 'TW025A0' tweeters fitted in their place.

webby
13-09-2011, 09:50
Not eBay but my local cash converters has two technics SL1210 mk2's for £145 each. No cartridge. I know nothing more than that I'm afraid.

I'm not interested but post it here in case anyone is.

Beobloke
13-09-2011, 13:43
Not eBay but my local cash converters has two technics SL1210 mk2's for £145 each. No cartridge. I know nothing more than that I'm afraid.

I'm not interested but post it here in case anyone is.

Southampton, eh - is that the one in Shirley? :eyebrows:

webby
13-09-2011, 17:16
No. Totton.

The Black Adder
15-09-2011, 14:58
TANNOY MONITOR GOLD 12" LANCASTERS

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tannoy-Monitor-Gold-Speakers-12-very-little-use-inherited-original-owner-/220854298622?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item336bf127fe#ht_499wt_1159

<£1000? - Bloody bargain!!!!

spendorman
15-09-2011, 15:34
TANNOY MONITOR GOLD 12" LANCASTERS

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tannoy-Monitor-Gold-Speakers-12-very-little-use-inherited-original-owner-/220854298622?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item336bf127fe#ht_499wt_1159

<£1000? - Bloody bargain!!!!

Nice

Decent sized cabinets for the 12" DC's

Rare Bird
15-09-2011, 16:48
You explain to me why they are worth £1,000?

The Black Adder
15-09-2011, 17:28
You explain to me why they are worth £1,000?

?.. cos they are ruddy good... and worth more as they look like they are in decent fettle.

Chris_T
15-09-2011, 18:02
You explain to me why they are worth £1,000?

I remember them being pretty good but I would also question that price.

The Black Adder
15-09-2011, 19:00
these speakers seem to be going up in price recently. A pair of nice Lancasters with 15" MGs sold for £2100 on eBay the other day so I'd say it's a cheap price to be honest and a bargain for someone.

Ok they were 15's but the 12's are also very good indeed and in fact better sounding than 15's in the Lancaster cabs..

Jonboy
15-09-2011, 19:03
Ok they were 15's but the 12's are also very good indeed and in fact better sounding than 15's in the Lancaster cabs..

sad but true :thumbsup:

Thing Fish
15-09-2011, 19:06
I'd pay no more than £400 for them...:scratch:

synsei
15-09-2011, 21:57
This might be worth a punt... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180723582056#ht_500wt_1413

The Black Adder
15-09-2011, 23:43
he's taken them down... he made a mistake in the listing as they are 10" drivers not 12"

The Grand Wazoo
15-09-2011, 23:54
Bargains on Ebay?
I got one tonight - 54 albums and a stack of 12" singles for 99p!!

The Black Adder
16-09-2011, 09:54
...and all Barry Manilow? heheh, well done :)

Rare Bird
16-09-2011, 10:12
...and all Barry Manilow? heheh, well done :)

A little dicky bird told me it's mainly James Last & Klaus Wunderlich :eyebrows:

Barry
16-09-2011, 10:25
Could be worse - they could all be by Celine Dion.

On the other hand they could be rare test pressings of the never released collaboration between Viv Stanshall and Don Van Vliet. (Sorry, that's a bit of an 'in joke'.)

The Black Adder
16-09-2011, 11:09
haha.. you know I bought a Klaus Wunderlich record once just because of the foxy cover...! lol

Celine Dion - LANGUAGE TIMOTHY

Rare Bird
16-09-2011, 12:28
haha.. you know I bought a Klaus Wunderlich record once just because of the foxy cover...! lol



:spank: Have to admit those 'Hammond Pop' covers were saucy :eyebrows:

StanleyB
16-09-2011, 14:00
Could be worse - they could all be by Celine Dion.

For your information I use some of her earlier recordings as test files. The detail and depth in them is an indication that a good studio and recording/engineering team was used.

StanleyB
16-09-2011, 18:49
One of the best sounding receivers I have ever heard and owned is the ROTEL RX-1603 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/rotel-rx-1603-power-amp-reciever-/170697252818?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiF i_Amplifiers&hash=item27be595fd2). I think I even got the service manual.
A massive beast as well. Mine got damaged by an over eager visitor. I offered it to anyone who could lift it with one hand, but nobody ever managed.
The last one I saw on eBay went for nearly three times the price on eBay.

Reid Malenfant
16-09-2011, 19:03
One of the best sounding receivers I have ever heard and owned is the ROTEL RX-1603 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/rotel-rx-1603-power-amp-reciever-/170697252818?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiF i_Amplifiers&hash=item27be595fd2).
A massive beast as well.


Mine got damaged by an over eager visitor
What was her name? ;) :eyebrows:

I offered it to anyone who could lift it with one hand, but nobody ever managed.
Wow, that must be one heavy beast. I know i can (when my back is in as good an order as it can get) lift & carry 10st without too much bother with both arms. I wouldn't attempt more than a couple right now though :nono:

I'd expect to be able to lift half of that with one arm no? :scratch:

Rare Bird
16-09-2011, 19:07
I nearly mentioned the best ever sounding Rotel amp, but for the fear of one brain cells knocking the prices up i wont :eyebrows:

The Grand Wazoo
17-09-2011, 00:19
...and all Barry Manilow? heheh, well done :)

No not a single Manilow, no James Last, Klaus Wunderlich or Celine Dion either. I had no real idea of what was in there when I bid but it could have been a lot worse, but it was a bit of a 'his & hers' selection. I'll be keeping about half of them (his, I expect) & I think I'll be offering a few to AoS members in a short while.

Marco
17-09-2011, 01:09
Nice one, Chris. But do you know what the condition is like? It's all going to be rather pointless if they're not something you'd ever put your stylus near! ;)

Marco.

The Grand Wazoo
17-09-2011, 10:25
I picked them up on Thursday night, an hour after the auction ended - they're mostly in fantastic condition. I wouldn't have risked buying such an unknown quantity if there had been a postage cost attached.
........but for 99p, well, it'd be rude not to, wouldn't it?

Marco
17-09-2011, 11:16
Absolutely - that was a result, then! :cool:

Marco.

Rare Bird
17-09-2011, 13:41
Not much chance of Zweistein 'Trip-Flip Out-Meditation' in that bundle then

Dingdong
18-09-2011, 10:10
I have punted and will report back on how bargainacious it is. And how I get on having to get up and change the volume:)





This might be worth a punt... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180723582056#ht_500wt_1413

Dingdong
18-09-2011, 10:48
Bit of a too good to be true bargain.
Turns out that the seller would prefer payment by bank transfer, and that it's a Romanian account. Bit stinky methinks. Reported it to ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110744873099

MartinT
18-09-2011, 15:36
Very cheap for Boulder amps. I'd be suspicious too.

The Grand Wazoo
18-09-2011, 16:00
........ and that it's a Romanian account. Bit stinky methinks. Reported it to ebay.


That would be the Wakefield in Romania then!

Macca
18-09-2011, 16:05
That would be the Wakefield in Romania then!

It's where the fabled Yorkshire Vampires come from...

Dingdong
18-09-2011, 18:32
There was a preamp too.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110744871797

These don't seem like the details of someone from Wakefield. People from Wakefield don't even know where Doncaster is, never mind Romania.

'Congratulations on winning this item! The next step is to pay the seller. Payment method: Bank Wire Transfer. The auction is still protected by eBay for the full amount of £656.00. Bank Business Account NAME (DBA): Catalin-Marian DOBRESCU Bank Name: ING Bank Business IBAN: RO74INGB0000999902488211 SWIFT: INGBROBU Address: Sos. Kiseleff, nr.11-13, sector 1.'

synsei
18-09-2011, 18:44
Address: Sos. Kiseleff, nr.11-13, sector 1.'

Hmm, now that sounds familiar but I don't think it's Wakefield, isn't that addy somewhere around the Rawmarsh Hill area of Rotherham, Transylvania? :lolsign:

spendorman
18-09-2011, 18:46
Strange, some of what he's been buying/ selling looks right for UK

synsei
18-09-2011, 18:47
Maybe his account has been hacked, it happens unfortunately :(

Reid Malenfant
18-09-2011, 18:50
Sounds to me like someone has had their ebay account hijacked yet again :rolleyes: It's pretty common due to laziness in applying decent different passwords...

:mental:

Dingdong
18-09-2011, 18:59
I guess it means I'm stuck with Linn for a bit. The shame of it:lol:

Reid Malenfant
18-09-2011, 19:00
You'll live Mark ;) Just remember it won't sound any worse than it does now :lol:

Dingdong
18-09-2011, 19:06
I'll just keep it quiet and tell everyone I've got somethin' fancy with toobs in it.

synsei
18-09-2011, 19:12
Ach Mark, you've still got the Tresham to fall back on. I'm looking forward to hearing it in your system actually, it's a decent little pre-amp ;) It will mean having to train your cat to be a remote though :lolsign:

spendorman
18-09-2011, 19:14
These might be a bargain if they don't go too high

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11051.m43.l1123/7?euid=60430b8dca4a4f119a040cf2ef01c5af&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.co.uk%2Fws%2FeBayISAPI.d ll%3FViewItem%26item%3D300600863136%26ssPageName%3 DADME%3AX%3ARTQ%3AGB%3A1123

Dingdong
18-09-2011, 19:18
I'm already working on an idea that involves an old golf club and some blu-tak. I'm fucked if I'm getting up to change the volume:eyebrows:



Ach Mark, you've still got the Tresham to fall back on. I'm looking forward to hearing it in your system actually, it's a decent little pre-amp ;) It will mean having to train your cat to be a remote though :lolsign:

MartinT
18-09-2011, 21:26
Ah, the old mechanical remote, eh? Post-dates training the dog.

Rare Bird
18-09-2011, 21:29
These might be a bargain if they don't go too high



Nice :cool:

Rare Bird
23-09-2011, 13:05
Bagged a Chilton '100S' open Reel Machine with the posh Teak surround.£30.00 :eyebrows:

StanleyB
23-09-2011, 16:00
A hidden gem for the price is the Sansui SR-222 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SANSUI-SR-222-MK-II-TURNTABLE-JVC-X-1S-CARTRIDGE-/350491242820?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiF i_Turntables&hash=item519ae7f144)Turntable. Quite a few upgrade potentials. I am surprised it has not been snapped up at that price.

Mind you, the SR-717 listed here (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SUPERB-VINTAGE-SANSUI-SR717-DIRECT-DRIVE-TURNTABLE-NO-RESERVE-/170698773755?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiF i_Turntables&hash=item27be7094fb)is a steal if it is working OK and can get it for peanuts. Highly underrated but a brilliant performer as I remember.

Dingdong
23-09-2011, 16:31
http://www.preloved.co.uk/fuseaction-adverts.showadvert/index-1034518386/cf599368.html

If I was going over that way soon I'd have snapped these up. They look quite pretty for £45 ovno.

Got to be a bit of a bargain if these went for £160.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CELESTION-DITTON-33-teak-loudspeakers-/320758755491

StanleyB
23-09-2011, 16:38
The Ditton cross-over responds well to upgrades of the caps. I replaced them with higher voltage versions when Maplin sold non-polarized speaker caps.

Dingdong
23-09-2011, 16:43
It's just taken me 4 hours to get home from Ipswich, and the thought of going back that way make me want to swear a lot. Otherwise I'd be posting them as my new speakers.

Rare Bird
23-09-2011, 16:59
'33's are mi fav's loike

Dingdong
23-09-2011, 17:03
Tempted to see what it would cost to ship them. Do I really need more teak in my house? And I should be looking for a new pre, not more speakers.

Rare Bird
23-09-2011, 17:05
I could do with some more :eyebrows:

Jonboy
23-09-2011, 17:43
I could do with some more :eyebrows:

bit big to use as headphones strapped to yer head :lol:

Rare Bird
23-09-2011, 18:25
bit big to use as headphones strapped to yer head :lol:

Aye i need more speaker ornaments tho

Thing Fish
23-09-2011, 18:32
Aye i need more speaker ornaments tho

They would make a nice pair of flower pots...:eek:

Rare Bird
23-09-2011, 18:55
It's all junk anyway you may be right

Dingdong
23-09-2011, 23:22
They sold within an hour of the ad going up.




http://www.preloved.co.uk/fuseaction-adverts.showadvert/index-1034518386/cf599368.html

If I was going over that way soon I'd have snapped these up. They look quite pretty for £45 ovno.

Got to be a bit of a bargain if these went for £160.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CELESTION-DITTON-33-teak-loudspeakers-/320758755491

Rare Bird
23-09-2011, 23:56
Um

The Black Adder
24-09-2011, 05:08
Anyone got £50k free for some tape decks?

Oooooh!... Pure divorce material so if your after becoming free and single again 'BUY IT NOW'

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Akai-Sony-Pioneer-Teac-Tascam-Revox-Nagra-Restored-Reel-Reel-Machines-/260858648764?pt=UK_Consumer_VintageAudio_RL&hash=item3cbc6318bc#ht_4714wt_1155

MartinT
24-09-2011, 08:05
I think Nick (Beechwoods) will faint when he sees this lot :eek:

StanleyB
24-09-2011, 08:44
The listing breeches a few eBay rules however. The postage is quoted as £2000 but the seller says collection only. The payment says Paypal accepted, but the seller wants bank transfer, not Paypal.

Jonboy
25-09-2011, 09:53
open baffle (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/hawthrone-ob-15-coaxial-speaker-drivers-idea-low-watt-valve-amps-/230676863059?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item35b5699853) project anyone

John
25-09-2011, 17:18
The drivers are really nice and would make excellent speakers and not so complex to build honest
They cost $700 new so at present price a bargin

Reid Malenfant
25-09-2011, 17:36
I took a look at them earlier & followed the link to the site, there are no specifications that i can see - what use is that? :scratch:

:eyebrows:

John
25-09-2011, 17:41
http://www.hawthorneaudio.com/catalogs/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=3&products_id=4

Spur07
25-09-2011, 18:03
open baffle (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/hawthrone-ob-15-coaxial-speaker-drivers-idea-low-watt-valve-amps-/230676863059?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item35b5699853) project anyone

I might go for them :scratch:

Reid Malenfant
25-09-2011, 18:11
http://www.hawthorneaudio.com/catalogs/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=3&products_id=4
Cheers John, i guess i didn't look hard enough :doh:

Still they don't mention the VAS, i guess it doesn't matter with an OB but i would have still liked to know :eyebrows:

Qts 0.7, too high for any enclosure...

John
25-09-2011, 18:14
yes but works really well in a open baffle

Reid Malenfant
25-09-2011, 18:25
I can't argue with that :eyebrows:

Rare Bird
25-09-2011, 18:30
You know why people go the OB route dont you ;)

John
25-09-2011, 18:41
Come on tell us Andre

Ali Tait
26-09-2011, 09:24
Cos they sound bloody good! :lol:

John
26-09-2011, 10:36
I got this for 99p
Now to figure out picking it up
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/170700989478?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

Dingdong
27-09-2011, 14:26
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/270820966553?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

If anybody is looking for a decent pair of stands I'd recommend these. Going by the looks and the dimensions they would appear to be Target R2's.

Dingdong
30-09-2011, 17:01
Not on ebay, but if I had £700 spare I'd be in my car on the way to Blackpool.

http://www.hifi-forsale.co.uk/moreinfo.php?prod_title=Pink_Triangle_PINK_EXPORT_ WITH_SME_SERIES_1V_ARM&p=turntable&prod_id=2267&offset=0

Wakefield Turntables
30-09-2011, 17:13
now that is a good bargain especially for the IV.

Dingdong
30-09-2011, 17:19
That's what I thought. There is no way I can find that cash, though. Just spend all my spare cash on a pre.
Somebody will be very happy with that.

dantheman91
01-10-2011, 19:29
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260857651148?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649


:eek:

Dan

Reid Malenfant
01-10-2011, 19:37
Some crazy people out there, that's nuts! :mental:

bikerboy
01-10-2011, 19:48
Thet must be nuts:doh::doh::doh::doh:

Thing Fish
01-10-2011, 19:49
I suppose if money is no object you can fill your trousers with all manner of fruit.

keiths
01-10-2011, 20:06
I can think of better things to spend 11 grand on...

Reid Malenfant
01-10-2011, 20:08
I can think of better things to spend 11 grand on...
No kidding :eek: £11,100 for a 7" 45RPM & a box :lol:

:mental:

Thing Fish
01-10-2011, 20:10
.

Thing Fish
01-10-2011, 20:11
I can think of better things to spend 11 grand on...

Music for a start...!

Reid Malenfant
01-10-2011, 20:11
Music for a start...!
Yeah - lots! That's a good few thousand CDs :eyebrows:

Dingdong
02-10-2011, 19:38
Not really sure why I bid on these. Guess it will give me something to do on cold winter nights.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180729539199

Reid Malenfant
02-10-2011, 19:41
Not really sure why I bid on these. Guess it will give me something to do on cold winter nights.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180729539199
Something tells me someone doesn't know there width from depth :eyebrows:

Nice enclosures for the price :)

Dingdong
02-10-2011, 19:46
Maybe he used them woofers to the front as he liked the soundstage that way:)

Reid Malenfant
02-10-2011, 19:51
:lolsign: Look for a pair of nice lowish Qts 12" woofers as the enclosures don't look too big, though you might get away with higher driver Q versions if you keep the box sealed & stuff it with rockwool ;)

Dingdong
02-10-2011, 20:11
I've got a bit of researching to do. There might be a thread on my new speaker project coming up soon.

MartinT
02-10-2011, 20:29
Look interesting. Do you know their origins and what drivers they are supposed to use?

The Grand Wazoo
02-10-2011, 20:33
There aren't that many commercial speakers with such chunky solid wood carcasses.

Dingdong
02-10-2011, 20:38
If you have a quick look at his other items befor ethey finish it shows the tweeters, mids and one woofer.

Reid Malenfant
02-10-2011, 20:52
There are no woofer parameters, just a picture :(

Have a look at these babies (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-CSS-Trio-12-Subwoofer-sub-bass-speaker-/320570321489?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item4aa37aea51) :eyebrows: Now if only someone else was willing to import a pair i'd go for the others ;)

Yes there would be import tax to pay & VAT :doh: But a 12" with 20mm or 40mm pk-pk is not to be sniffed at ;) Makes all these 15" drivers with 4mm pk or 8mm pk-pk seam tame in comparison... You know who you are ;) Think Tannoy...

Dingdong
02-10-2011, 21:53
They do look rather pleasant. But might have to be something to think about in the future. I'll go and pick the cabinets up in the week and see what I've got.
Just got to do a bit of research now on driver selection and crossovers and all manner of other stuff. Will be posting questions soon enough.

Rare Bird
04-10-2011, 11:14
Bagged a Chilton '100S' open Reel Machine with the posh Teak surround.£30.00 :eyebrows:

I finally have it, looks scruffy but that silver pannel is scratch free, machine should come up like new. I can see the Pinch Roller has disintegrated & no doubt the idler wheels have the same but that shouldnt be a problem. All in all another classic from the late 60's :thumbsup:

(Anyone knows of the service data & handbook please let me know)

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/LIVING-SIN/Picture035.jpg

Macca
04-10-2011, 12:03
Bargain at £30!

Rare Bird
04-10-2011, 12:46
Bargain at £30!

Considering maybe £100 to get the idlers & Pinch re-done £30 about right.I would have paid £75 tbh

Dingdong
12-10-2011, 19:32
Just picked up a Teac vrds 7 for £95. New mechanism fitted last year supposedly, but no remote.

My vrds 9 mech died the other day:(

So far I think the 9 sounded better. It had a rather nice dual differential PCM1702 arrangement. And a remote.

I feel there will be a dac being purchased at some point in the future.

Dingdong
13-10-2011, 06:40
I've just had it running on repeat all night and it's sounding quite pleasant. Will hold off on the dac idea for a bit.
It does look quite pretty in my rack. Will have to do pics of my new kit later.

Alex_UK
13-10-2011, 07:06
Nice one Mark, they are certainly handsome looking players. :)

Dingdong
13-10-2011, 07:30
Got them from a site called 'Preloved'. He was asking £120 ovno. £95 was near enough. Looks better in the rack than the vrds 9 with my new pre and psu. If I could be arsed painting the base of my tt black it all my look half decent.

One of my old golf clubs has been pressed into service as a remote for the moment:eyebrows:

DSJR
13-10-2011, 07:31
Just picked up a Teac vrds 7 for £95. New mechanism fitted last year supposedly, but no remote.

My vrds 9 mech died the other day:(

So far I think the 9 sounded better. It had a rather nice dual differential PCM1702 arrangement. And a remote.

I feel there will be a dac being purchased at some point in the future.

Don't these units "feature" a modified Sony mech underneath the TEAC add-ons? If so, fixing shouldn't be too much of an issue with any luck.

Dingdong
13-10-2011, 07:42
It is based on Sony bits. It's had a new laser. Has had everything setup according to the service manual. I thought I had it working spot on, then noticed it wouldn't play tracks 10 and 11 of any cd properly. 1-9 and 12 onwards were fine. Will keep it and try to fix it at some point.
I believe it's all down to the servo and getting the thing to spin and the laser to move at at the right speeds.
Right now it's pushed right down the list of things to do. The 7 was a very good price so I though 'f**k it, I'll have one of those.

Richardl
15-10-2011, 12:09
I saw this, which is going to end soon http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hovland-RADIA-power-amplifier-/250907962871?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiF i_Amplifiers&hash=item3a6b47adf7

Somebody buy it..........I'd only get it if you can collect it, I wouldn't risk sending that much money to someone with a zero rating and charging £4 delivery for it.

Dingdong
16-10-2011, 08:28
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Technics-SP-10MK2A-Turntable-w-Shure-SME-3009-/370549531654?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5646792406

Macca
16-10-2011, 08:35
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Technics-SP-10MK2A-Turntable-w-Shure-SME-3009-/370549531654?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5646792406

Nice but a lot of bread given it is effectively 'spares or repair'

Dingdong
16-10-2011, 08:42
Yeah, I know. But, if I had the money I'd have clicked the button.

Jonboy
16-10-2011, 20:09
I was temted with these (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260867408131?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649&autorefresh=true) but as always the price was to high, we think they are based around the Mullard 5 20 circuit, i be they sound good though, look at the size of the trannies

Jonboy
16-10-2011, 20:11
Bonkers money (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Decca-Stereo-Decola-pre-power-amps-amplifier-valve-tube-4-restoration-EL34-ECC83-/140620566970?_trksid=p4340.m185&_trkparms=algo%3DDLSL%252BSIC.NPJS%26its%3DI%26itu %3DUCI%252BUA%26otn%3D10%26pmod%3D260867408131%252 B260867408131%26po%3D%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D35234104 64483135488), i think he has got his decimal point in the wrong place :eek:

Reid Malenfant
16-10-2011, 20:14
Might do a bit better if he dusted the things :lol:

Yeah, the guy/gal is on the fairy dust imo ;)

Jonboy
19-10-2011, 19:24
ooh Rotel (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rotel-Tuner-/230686298356?pt=UK_Consumer_VintageAudio_RL&hash=item35b5f990f4#ht_583wt_922)

Jonboy
19-10-2011, 19:51
you heard Marco's no you can own a pairhttp://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Celestion-Ditton-66-Studio-Monitor-Loudspeakers-/320777107373?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item4aafce37ad#ht_1278wt_922

Reid Malenfant
19-10-2011, 20:00
Looks like the bloke has the original box/es to ;) Well unless i'm mistaken that is...

synsei
19-10-2011, 21:38
The Ditton 66's are gorgeous but, are they really worth what they are going to fetch?

I've never heard a pair by the way so this is a genuine question... :cool:

MartinT
19-10-2011, 21:45
I'll find out sometime when Marco brings his round to mine (in preparation for the Scalford show next year).

Reid Malenfant
19-10-2011, 21:46
The Ditton 66's are gorgeous but, are they really worth what they are going to fetch?

I've never heard a pair by the way so this is a genuine question... :cool:
Next time you are here i'll see if i can get the 66's rocking in the next room, you may be surprised at what they can do Dave :) I know i was :eyebrows:

Dingdong
19-10-2011, 21:47
The Ditton 66's are gorgeous but, are they really worth what they are going to fetch?


Should've gone to specsavers:lol:

synsei
19-10-2011, 21:57
:ner: :lol:

Rare Bird
19-10-2011, 21:59
:lolsign:

Dingdong
19-10-2011, 22:00
You'll be telling us DM2's are gorgeous next:eyebrows:

synsei
19-10-2011, 22:01
But... but... but... :stalks:

Rare Bird
19-10-2011, 22:25
:D

Marco
20-10-2011, 15:10
you heard Marco's no you can own a pairhttp://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Celestion-Ditton-66-Studio-Monitor-Loudspeakers-/320777107373?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item4aafce37ad#ht_1278wt_922

24 bids so far! :eek:

Anyone want to hazard a guess at what they end up going for? I paid just under £1200 for mine. Whether they are 'worth' that much is entirely subjective. All I can say, with some conviction, is that if you judge them purely on sonic terms, then most definitely YES - and with bloody big bells on!! :fingers: :hairmetal:

Marco.

Marco
20-10-2011, 15:14
Hi Martin,


I'll find out sometime when Marco brings his round to mine (in preparation for the Scalford show next year).

Indeed. Could you PM me with some suggestions for dates? I'd like to get our sesh organised before things get busy near Christmas.

If it happens sometime after the first weekend in November, I'll likely have a new tonearm (and possibly new cartridge) on my T/T for you to hear ;)

Marco.

Reid Malenfant
20-10-2011, 16:51
24 bids so far! :eek:
Did you miscount Marco, if not there are now 34 :eyebrows:

I reckon they go into 4 figures ;)

Marco
20-10-2011, 19:08
There were only 24 when I last looked, dude. It'll be very interesting to see what they go for! :)

Marco.

Wakefield Turntables
20-10-2011, 19:19
770 smackers and counting!

Reid Malenfant
20-10-2011, 19:19
With what look like the original packing boxes I kind of expect a record :eyebrows: 37 bids now & just over 3/4 of a grand ;)

They really do look good...

Pleased i picked mine up at silly money, but they are in a sorry state :lol:

synsei
20-10-2011, 19:21
Ok, I'm going to put my money where my mouth is: I reckon they are going to go for £1350'ish... :stalks:

synsei
20-10-2011, 20:39
Well, it's looking as if my estimate was very conservative. The Ditton 66's are now up to £1040, 45 bids and they still have just under 4 days to go :eek:

Rare Bird
23-10-2011, 16:04
Just won a nice Ferrograph 'Logic 7' R+R £80.00

:cool:

John
23-10-2011, 16:22
Nice score Andre

Rare Bird
23-10-2011, 16:30
I thought so. looking at the picture it has the Speed change & Release/Load knobs missing but they do come up from time to time.

Barry
23-10-2011, 18:37
Just won a nice Ferrograph 'Logic 7' R+R £80.00

:cool:

Nice one André!

worthingpagan
23-10-2011, 21:51
Just won a nice Ferrograph 'Logic 7' R+R £80.00

:cool:


Are you into r-r? My old man's got a lovely Akai in mint condition, was serviced a couple of years back. he got it for his 25th wedding anniversary, that was in 1972. If you're interested i'll have a word with him next time i'm over that way :cool:

Rare Bird
23-10-2011, 22:41
Reel To Reel is my primary source..Thanks Mark i have all i need now

Dingdong
24-10-2011, 08:03
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190591742460&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:GB:1123

I think the caffeine and nicotine must have gone to my head this morning. I've 'accidentally' clicked (a few times) a few buttons and ended up with some pig ugly monstrosity without an arm for £110. Are they supposed to be any good them owd dj decks.

MartinT
24-10-2011, 09:40
You're on the path. Now catch up on hours' worth of reading here on AoS and that 1210 will become a beautiful swan :)

Dingdong
24-10-2011, 09:51
I'm quite happy with my current tt. Just thought it might be nice to have a play. Will have to find an arm for it. Maybe something heavier than my Hadcock as I can get a Supex and step up reasonably cheaply so I could see what mc's are all about.

synsei
24-10-2011, 11:24
I'm quite happy with my current tt. Just thought it might be nice to have a play. Will have to find an arm for it. Maybe something heavier than my Hadcock as I can get a Supex and step up reasonably cheaply so I could see what mc's are all about.

A heavier arm huh? There's a spare tower crane just down the road from me, you could try that? It should look right at home on a Techie plus you could always pretend it's a Dynavector :lolsign:

Wakefield Turntables
24-10-2011, 11:31
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190591742460&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:GB:1123

I think the caffeine and nicotine must have gone to my head this morning. I've 'accidentally' clicked (a few times) a few buttons and ended up with some pig ugly monstrosity without an arm for £110. Are they supposed to be any good them owd dj decks.

You have done extremely well for £110, i would happily pay that to have a 2nd "test" deck for future modifications or even keep the deck as a spare, well done mate :cool:

Dingdong
24-10-2011, 11:48
Has anybody tried lead as a platter mat for the Teccy? I was just having a think about diy platter mats and thought a couple of sheets of copper or lead, with a label cutout on the top sheet and a bit of bonding might work a treat.

By the way, I said BONDING!! Don't want to get Marco over excited.

John
24-10-2011, 16:20
Collection in person seems to keep costs down

Dingdong
24-10-2011, 16:29
I've got a little trip around the south planned for Saturday. Collecting a bunch of stuff.

Reid Malenfant
24-10-2011, 16:53
Has anybody tried lead as a platter mat for the Teccy?
I think i brought this up with Mike New at one stage, his reply was something to the effect of "there aren't that many churches his way" :eyebrows:

No reason why it shouldn't work imo. No idea what the sound would be like though :scratch:

synsei
24-10-2011, 16:56
I think i brought this up with Mike New at one stage, his reply was something to the effect of "there aren't that many churches his way" :eyebrows:

No reason why it shouldn't work imo. No idea what the sound would be like though :scratch:

:deceased:? :lolsign:

John
24-10-2011, 17:01
I thibk there are issues around legisation in producing a lead matt VPI used to do this with their heavy platter but had to stop due to changes in the law

The Grand Wazoo
24-10-2011, 17:05
Tabatha, the AoS record cleaner might not thank you for a lead mat.

http://theartofsound.net/forum/image.php?u=3075&dateline=1284677197

Reid Malenfant
24-10-2011, 17:15
:deceased:? :lolsign:
:lol:

I thibk there are issues around legisation in producing a lead matt VPI used to do this with their heavy platter but had to stop due to changes in the law
Nothing stopping anyone from making their own though, i can understand why it might be naughty to sell a manufactured one ;)

Tabatha, the AoS record cleaner might not thank you for a lead mat.

http://theartofsound.net/forum/image.php?u=3075&dateline=1284677197
:lolsign:

Dingdong
24-10-2011, 17:25
Lol.

I was thinking that a couple of small sheets of lead or copper wouldn't cost that much. Maybe even experiment with copper as well. Might sound like a load of crap, but could be a stroke of genius:eyebrows:

Reid Malenfant
24-10-2011, 17:31
Well the Mike New platter is about the two metals bonded together to damp the aluminium platter & it appears to do what it says on the tin ;)

Lead would be at least as effective as annealed copper (I'd have thought) as it doesn't need annealing to soften it.

I have a fair sized roll of lead that will be used in speakers, if there is some left over i might have a play with a lead mat at some stage :eyebrows:

Reid Malenfant
24-10-2011, 18:31
you heard Marco's no you can own a pairhttp://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Celestion-Ditton-66-Studio-Monitor-Loudspeakers-/320777107373?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudio HiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item4aafce37ad#ht_1278wt_922
New bidder entered the fray with an £1100 bid, now at £1110 :)

Expect last few second bids ;) The new guy with 600+ feedback will look at that & think 'yeah lets do it' i reckon :eyebrows:

Dingdong
24-10-2011, 18:35
New bidder entered the fray with an £1100 bid, now at £1110 :)

Expect last few second bids ;) The new guy with 600+ feedback will look at that & think 'yeah lets do it' i reckon :eyebrows:

The bloke with 20 feedbacks really wants them. Have they never heard of sniping?

Reid Malenfant
24-10-2011, 18:39
My thoughts precisely, I always sniped from day one on ebay ;) Difference is i do it myself & pay straight away if i win, i refuse to use software.

Dingdong
24-10-2011, 19:06
Oh no, mr 20 feedbacks lost out.

Reid Malenfant
24-10-2011, 19:28
Oh no, mr 20 feedbacks lost out.
:lolsign: That's the way the cookie crumbles ;)

Dingdong
24-10-2011, 19:41
But he really, really wanted them.

Half expect Marco to be posting soon with his new Celestion 66 surround sound setup. They'd look okay in a dark home cinema room.

Reid Malenfant
24-10-2011, 19:47
But he really, really wanted them.
If he really really wanted them he'd have gone the extra mile & won them ;)

That or he was new to fleabay & hadn't considered the possibility of sniping, or he was daft :eyebrows:


I can see you support the underdog here Mark, actually i'm with you on that one... You do need to be clever though to get stuff at the price you want, clever or patient :)

Dingdong
24-10-2011, 19:56
I remember getting beat by snipers, I learnt quickly though.

I have 2 snipes waiting now. Put a value I'd be happy paying and won't be gutted if I lose out.

Thing Fish
24-10-2011, 23:31
I always put my first and only bid in with 10 seconds to go. I thought that's what everyone did...?

keiths
25-10-2011, 00:40
That's what I so too. Not sure you win more often doing it that way, but it removes the temptation to up your bid if you get out bid.

Dingdong
25-10-2011, 05:13
I use Goofbay. It means you have to give them your ebay details, but I've never had a problem with it. It means I can put my bid in days in advance and forget about it.

Dingdong
25-10-2011, 15:37
I have found a remote for my VRDS 7. Bit expensive, but got to be better than my 4 iron.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/160665988653?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

Thing Fish
25-10-2011, 15:44
I have used 'bidmate' before without any problems.

Dingdong
25-10-2011, 15:55
The auction finished while I was on my way back from Great Yarmouth. Nice surprise to get home to.
It just happens that I have spare drawer bits on my dead vrds 9. A new, non-original, remote would have cost me £30. So I'm happy with the deal.
The plan now is to use one vrds 7 as a benchmark for upgrades on the other.

Just hoping my snipe on some interconnects works this week and that might see the end of my spending for this year. Apart from some upgrade bit's for the cdp that is. And maybe an arm for the new Teccy. And maybe a cartridge. Mmmm.......

jandl100
25-10-2011, 18:34
Haha. Seriously retro! Look at this - "a Mitsubishi mc-8000 turntable/cassette player, has mixing controls, balance controls, bass controls, recording controls, turntable speed controls and so on."

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mitsubishi-mc-8000-/140626587137?pt=Turntable_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20bdff6e01

Reid Malenfant
25-10-2011, 18:42
Must be about 35 years old, I remember seeing similar in shops when I was about 10 or 11 :eyebrows:

The Grand Wazoo
25-10-2011, 18:52
ahem................http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Collection-Quad-Power-Amps-Control-Units-Tuners-More-than-30-spare-Tubes-/110762997157?pt=UK_Consumer_VintageAudio_RL&hash=item19c9fd35a5#ht_843wt_1344 ................!!!!!!!!!!

synsei
25-10-2011, 19:02
*coughs* :whistle:

Barry
25-10-2011, 19:15
ahem................http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Collection-Quad-Power-Amps-Control-Units-Tuners-More-than-30-spare-Tubes-/110762997157?pt=UK_Consumer_VintageAudio_RL&hash=item19c9fd35a5#ht_843wt_1344 ................!!!!!!!!!!

I shall watch that (purely out of curiosity).

Assuming a set of Quad IIs + Quad 22 will sell for £400, and further assuming The Quad FM2s sell for £200 each, the AM2 for £100 and the remaining Quad 22s for £100 apiece, the buyer could see a return of £2,300.

Now how much the winner pays for that little lot remains to be seen! :scratch: