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The Black Adder
28-07-2015, 20:16
Hi..

I know some of you guys are using the Tape Project tapes.. What have you got? It's something I'd love to have in the future.

I bet the Canned Heat and John Lee Hooker one sounds utterly superb!

http://tapeproject.com/catalog/

struth
28-07-2015, 20:19
Used to have that on vinyl....may still have; I cant remember if i sold it tbh... very good session

topoxforddoc
28-07-2015, 20:54
I've got the Sonny Rollins "Saxophone Colossus" and Jimmy Smith's "The Sermon" on Tape Project. Just awaiting a protection master 15ips tape of Led Zep II to arrive. Missed out on a Miles Davis protection master 15 ips tape of "Elevator to the scaffold".

Having looked at this now, there are over 300 title available made from original masters on 15 ips R2R from companies other than tape project.com

http://www.analogarts.net
http://www.abcrecord.com/en/category.php?id=18
http://www.openreelrecords.com
http://www.analogyrecords.org
Groove Note Records http://www.elusivedisc.com/Groove-Note/products/346/
International Phonographic http://internationalphonographinc.com/
Master Tape Sound Lab http://mastertapesoundlab.com/Master...Catalogue.html
Opus 3 Records http://www.opus3records.com/
Premonition Records http://www.premonitionrecords.com
Quinton Records http://www.quintonrecords.com/index.php?id=34&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=3&cHash=ac39e937f31df6cfd0a0f18e2a400251
The Tape Project http://www.tapeproject.com/
Ultra Analogue Recordings http://ultraanaloguerecordings.com/home
Yarlung Records http://www.yarlungrecords.com/analog.html#a1

337alant
01-08-2015, 18:01
Wow there are some great links there Charlie thanks for sharing
I didnt realise there was so much avaiable

Alan

topoxforddoc
08-08-2015, 20:35
Alan,

There's quite a bit on ebay as well, some of it reputable. The 2nd generation safety copy of Led Zep II, which I got from Russia, is great. Got some safety masters of more hard bop jazz coming from the USA too. I don't buy anything unless the masters have been stored ok.

Lodgesound
08-08-2015, 23:19
If it's ultimate quality recordings you are looking for......the ones that you cannot make on a domestic / semi-pro machine.....talk to me.

struth
08-08-2015, 23:21
May I ask whats a safety copy

Lodgesound
08-08-2015, 23:27
I am not entirely sure BUT I suspect it's a copy of one of The Tape Project tapes (or similar) done on a domestic machine.

If this is the case unless the record machine has been calibrated entirely to the piece of tape stock actually in use then it is not worth any more than the raw tape stock it is recorded on.

At the VERY best you would be looking at a DOUBLING of the noise floor from the original unless Dolby A or SR PROPERLY aligned was employed in the duplication process.

struth
08-08-2015, 23:37
Thanks.. so a first generation domestic copy of a master copy of a master.

Lodgesound
08-08-2015, 23:59
Yes indeed....

On any recording of this kind that advertises as being anything near a master copy then I would expect a full set of line up and calibration tones at the head of the recording (1 khz, 10 khz, 15 khz, 20hz, 40 hz along with Dolby tones as/if required ) to enable full replay line up.

It staggers me that the Tape Project tapes DO NOT contain these at the head of each reel AS STANDARD for the price they are charging !

Instead you are expected to purchase a line up reel for nearly a hundred dollars which by it's very nature is inevitably inaccurate as it was NOT made at the TIME of the original recording.

Analogue machines drift.....CONSTANTLY.... which is why line up tones were recorded in the industry.

Tape Project tapes are industry prices (almost - to give you an idea a master tape made in a studio facility supplied to a vinyl mastering facility would cost around 850 per reel).

They should have industry standard line up.

PaulStewart
09-08-2015, 00:04
A safety copy is not necessairily made on a domestic or semi pro machine. I used to, as did many other producers, always ran a tape copy of the master in the studio. Also, when cutting, I ran a production master tape, in parallel to the cutting lathe to produce a pre eqed prodution master, this was often used for recuts and cassette duplication.

topoxforddoc
09-08-2015, 15:33
The safety copies I have bought have tones and have been stored tails out in climate controlled rooms. They come from defunct studios, radio stations and recording engineers private collections. They sound fine at any rate.

If Stewart (Lodgesound) has some other tapes, then I'll certainly be interested.