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337alant
08-05-2015, 22:43
OK following on from Audio Als thread post your pictures here of your Reel 2 Reel players.
Ill start it off with 3 of my 10 R2Rs :eyebrows: :D
I make no excuses that this is an obsession but also an analog passion in exactly the same way as Vinyl

First up one of my 2 Otari MX55N

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5347/17430308855_b76a754422_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/syfTyt)IMG_2278 (https://flic.kr/p/syfTyt) by 337alant (https://www.flickr.com/people/69508926@N05/), on Flickr

Next up is one of my 2 Revox PR 99s

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5327/17404669276_d1924639f8_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/svZtNL)revox pr99 mk2 (https://flic.kr/p/svZtNL) by 337alant (https://www.flickr.com/people/69508926@N05/), on Flickr

Next up is one of my 5 Tascam BR20s

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5468/17433904862_17cf536ce4_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/syzjwA)IMG_1188 (2) (https://flic.kr/p/syzjwA) by 337alant (https://www.flickr.com/people/69508926@N05/), on Flickr

More to come but you show me yours first :eyebrows:

Alan

Barry
09-05-2015, 00:06
Love the Revox PR99 (the only Revox machine that interests me).

Photos of my Nagra IV-S can be seen here: http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?15431-The-Nagra-IV-S-two-track-tape-machine (photos 2 through to 7).

Lodgesound
09-05-2015, 02:06
http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/ss270/Lodgesound/IMG_0105_zpsed0a68ef.jpg (http://s582.photobucket.com/user/Lodgesound/media/IMG_0105_zpsed0a68ef.jpg.html)



http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/ss270/Lodgesound/2013-07-22150839_zpsa2981f7b.jpg (http://s582.photobucket.com/user/Lodgesound/media/2013-07-22150839_zpsa2981f7b.jpg.html)

Audio Al
09-05-2015, 04:21
I'm in for this :D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/bigboobs/IMG_3098.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bigboobs/media/IMG_3098.jpg.html)
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Thats it at the moment :eyebrows:

337alant
09-05-2015, 06:42
Stewart
Love that Studer A820 thats one of my dream machines :stalks::D

Alan

Barry
09-05-2015, 07:30
+1 to that! :drool:

Barry
09-05-2015, 07:33
Something to be going on with until I take some more photos:

http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy88/barrydhunt/021.jpg

337alant
09-05-2015, 08:24
Something to be going on with until I take some more photos:

http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy88/barrydhunt/021.jpg

WOW :stalks: and thats another one of my dream machines Barry lovely
Bet those little metal reels are quite rare
I listened to one of Stewarts Nagras at the Scalford hall show a couple of years ago and it sounded stunning with his quad amps and Rogers speakers

Alan

Ali Tait
09-05-2015, 11:47
Some lovely stuff there gents, here's my Tandberg-

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a616/aliballybee1/image.jpg4_zpsnji32xs6.jpg (http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/aliballybee1/media/image.jpg4_zpsnji32xs6.jpg.html)

johnB
09-05-2015, 12:15
http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag89/Jrb1961/teac%20a3440_zps6psvgj7a.jpg (http://s1300.photobucket.com/user/Jrb1961/media/teac%20a3440_zps6psvgj7a.jpg.html)
My Teac A-3440.

337alant
09-05-2015, 14:59
My Teac 3440 slight tape overun problem :D

https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7760/17259009058_6f5a4ecb1e_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/si7W6G)jans camera 656 (https://flic.kr/p/si7W6G) by Alan Towell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/69508926@N05/), on Flickr

Tascam 122 & Tascam BR20

Lodgesound
09-05-2015, 15:48
Many thanks for your comments Alan & Barry - I lusted after a Studer A820 from the age of 16 sitting outside of an office waiting to be interviewed for a BBC engineering position - I saw it in a Studio Sound magazing on the coffee table in the waiting room. Took me another 30 years to actually own one.........

This is a video / audio machine fully working and restored.

http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/ss270/Lodgesound/IMG_0213_zpsbecfyvfr.jpg (http://s582.photobucket.com/user/Lodgesound/media/IMG_0213_zpsbecfyvfr.jpg.html)

http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/ss270/Lodgesound/IMG_0209_zpsw1a0tmr9.jpg (http://s582.photobucket.com/user/Lodgesound/media/IMG_0209_zpsw1a0tmr9.jpg.html)

http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/ss270/Lodgesound/IMG_0210_zpsfscjtiaf.jpg (http://s582.photobucket.com/user/Lodgesound/media/IMG_0210_zpsfscjtiaf.jpg.html)

And yes - it does have on board Dolby SR and A type noise reduction as well as being a full bandwidth (5.5MHz) analogue composite video recorder.

337alant
09-05-2015, 21:00
Stewart
WOW That is an incredible machine and must have cost a fortune back in the day
Did you restore it yourself?.

Alan

struth
09-05-2015, 21:08
Thats some :reel:_:reel::eyebrows:

Roy S
09-05-2015, 21:20
Must get this mended one day

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss68/Lodger56/P1020966.jpg

Audio Al
10-05-2015, 02:35
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/bigboobs/tape%20deck%20huge%201.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bigboobs/media/tape%20deck%20huge%201.jpg.html)

:eek: Not found one of these yet :eek:

337alant
10-05-2015, 12:29
LOL yeah the wife would love one of them on the front room :D

Alan

Barry
10-05-2015, 14:42
For more information on the Stille recording machine read: http://theartofsound.net/images/smilies/openreel.gif et seq.

It used a steel tape 3mm wide running at 1.5m/s (= 59 i.p.s). Usually the spools had safety cage around them: can you imagine the damage that could be done if the tape snapped (say at one of the edits) resulting in a solid steel ribbon thrashing about wildly? Would put 337alant's Teac 'problem' to shame and would probably lacerate or even blind anyone standing nearby!

Lodgesound
10-05-2015, 15:31
Stewart
WOW That is an incredible machine and must have cost a fortune back in the day
Did you restore it yourself?.

Alan


Hi Alan;

Yes I did - lucky to have one in this condition with all the later software modifications - the machine is entirely software driven in terms of operation. It has a built in frame-store TBC for picture stabilisation unlike many machines of it's era that had outboard units.

I found it in a bin room in a facilities company under a pile of rotting food. They gave it to me for nothing - I remember having to go and rent a sack barrow from one of the stallholders in Berwick Street Market to move it to my car.

Back in the day it cost around £70 000.

337alant
10-05-2015, 18:30
Hi Alan;

Yes I did - lucky to have one in this condition with all the later software modifications - the machine is entirely software driven in terms of operation. It has a built in frame-store TBC for picture stabilisation unlike many machines of it's era that had outboard units.

I found it in a bin room in a facilities company under a pile of rotting food. They gave it to me for nothing - I remember having to go and rent a sack barrow from one of the stallholders in Berwick Street Market to move it to my car.

Back in the day it cost around £70 000.

Jesus that has got to be find of the century Stewart but Im sure you put a lot of man hours into getting it to where it is today ;)

Alan

337alant
10-05-2015, 18:32
My Revox A77 an ongoing Labour of love

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8872/17309163520_61313b2d91_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/snxZgN)IMG_2341 (https://flic.kr/p/snxZgN) by Alan Towell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/69508926@N05/), on Flickr

Alan

The Black Adder
10-05-2015, 18:38
I'm getting the bug again in regards to a new R2R. :)

Ali Tait
10-05-2015, 18:54
Aye, that must have taken some amount of work. Looks an amazing bit of kit.

337alant
10-05-2015, 22:24
I keep an eye on Ebay and the revox machines go for a fortune but unknown good R2Rs tend to go by with little attention
I have collected a few very good R2Rs at a decent price which iMO are every bit as good as any Revox machine
Here are 4 I have bough this year
https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8852/17494609992_681f43ab57_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/sDWs3L)IMG_2342 (https://flic.kr/p/sDWs3L) by Alan Towell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/69508926@N05/), on Flickr

This one was mint with heads virtually unused still needed some work but Calibrated up perfectly after a complete service
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5448/17470341426_13baf70b56_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/sBN4Rd)IMG_2344 (https://flic.kr/p/sBN4Rd) by Alan Towell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/69508926@N05/), on Flickr

Alan

struth
10-05-2015, 22:30
Youve got some collection Alan. That tascam looks very nice.

337alant
10-05-2015, 22:43
Thanks Grant the Tascam BR20 was the last R2R ever made, get one and you will get good service out of it even now, but buy a revox and its a ticking time bo*b when it will fail catastrophically and take out the very difficult to obtain ICs with it.

Alan

paskinn
11-05-2015, 15:28
Really? I've been using Revox machines for decades, and still do (B77 these days) and found them very reliable. So have colleagues. The Japanese machines are lovely, but rarely well supported for spares and back-up. I would have said that a Revox is the most supported reel-to-reel by a large margin. That's why they sell for more........

337alant
11-05-2015, 17:30
Really? I've been using Revox machines for decades, and still do (B77 these days) and found them very reliable. So have colleagues. The Japanese machines are lovely, but rarely well supported for spares and back-up. I would have said that a Revox is the most supported reel-to-reel by a large margin. That's why they sell for more........
Dont get me wrong I love the Revox machines as well and own 2 x PR99s and an A77, I also agree for me they have been very reliable and you can still buy some spares for them.
Its just a reality that capacitors only have a useful life in thousands of hours at temperature, the Fraco cap was a very high quality cap 30-40 years ago and was used in virtually all pro/semi pro gear like this, its remarkable that they have lasted this long really but the problem with this brand is they do have a reputation for drying out and failing short and its the fail short that is very unusual for a cap but very bad for the damage it can do when it happens.
Check out the Tapeheads forum there are countless threads about this problem and from people who service them for a living.
Recapping a full machine isnt a problem for me as its my hobby anyway but I would guess it wouldn't be cheap to get a service company to do it

Alan

paskinn
11-05-2015, 18:53
Fair enough; I'l keep my fingers crossed. Geoff Kramer at Servicesound in Bexhill is local and pretty ingenious with repairs. He keeps my Ferrograph Logic Seven running smoothly....no easy task.

337alant
11-05-2015, 19:19
I was mesmerised by a friends Ferrograph logic 7 must be 30 years ago now but that is what got me hooked on RTR
Please post a picture would live to see one again


Here are my brace of Otari MX 55s these are lovely machines and very professionally built


https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7716/17496637795_8348d182cb_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/sE7QQT)IMG_2347 (https://flic.kr/p/sE7QQT) by Alan Towell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/69508926@N05/), on Flickr

Alan

BTH K10A
11-05-2015, 19:26
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/emttsd15/108-0834_IMG_zpstg3gfqxy.jpg (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/emttsd15/media/108-0834_IMG_zpstg3gfqxy.jpg.html)

BTH K10A
11-05-2015, 20:09
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/emttsd15/108-0833_IMG_zpswtzfatil.jpg (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/emttsd15/media/108-0833_IMG_zpswtzfatil.jpg.html)

Barry
11-05-2015, 22:38
Is that Telefunken yours?

A year or so ago, I came very close to acquiring a Studer C37 two-track machine with recording meters for £800 In the end I declined, as I was uncertain as to the situation with spares, and more importantly I didn't think I would use it to its full capability. Lovely piece of engineering nonetheless! :)

337alant
12-05-2015, 05:33
Fabulous Telefunken Clark :stalks:
Tell us more about it please :)

Alan

BTH K10A
12-05-2015, 05:58
V386/87
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/emttsd15/IMG_1361_zpsv9tmwuo2.jpg (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/emttsd15/media/IMG_1361_zpsv9tmwuo2.jpg.html)


M10
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/emttsd15/IMG_1360_zpsrb9yeciv.jpg (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/emttsd15/media/IMG_1360_zpsrb9yeciv.jpg.html)

337alant
12-05-2015, 15:49
And of course you need some of this stuff to make them work :eyebrows::doh:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8792/17310283599_93cbfbac1f_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/snDJev)IMG_2350 (https://flic.kr/p/snDJev) by Alan Towell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/69508926@N05/), on Flickr

Alan

Captain Valve
15-05-2015, 21:29
I have a TEAC X2000M and whilst the shot isn't a close up, you get the idea. Awesome bit of kit.

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337alant
15-05-2015, 22:56
Very nice Alexs and wow thats some Valve amplifiers you have there :eyebrows:

Alan

Ali Tait
16-05-2015, 06:53
Aye very nice.

Audio Al
16-05-2015, 07:22
I have a TEAC X2000M and whilst the shot isn't a close up, you get the idea. Awesome bit of kit.

14782


Very nice :eyebrows::)

337alant
17-05-2015, 08:20
Here is my TEAC 3440 4 track recorder these are great machines for musicians as you can record on all four tracks at once or each track individually as required, record and playback of all 4 tracks in one direction

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5459/17762091772_dd1a94897b_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/t4zn4A)IMG_2351 (https://flic.kr/p/t4zn4A) by Alan Towell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/69508926@N05/), on Flickr

Alan

Ali Tait
17-05-2015, 09:07
Nice Alan, looks in very good nick.

neskor
17-05-2015, 20:11
Found this yesterday ;)
Revox E36

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e150/neskor777/20150516_160803_LLS_zpsjr28skcj.jpg

Audio Al
17-05-2015, 20:21
Found this yesterday ;)
Revox E36

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e150/neskor777/20150516_160803_LLS_zpsjr28skcj.jpg

Wow it looks almost new , Great find :)

If you squint and look at the R2R it looks like its happy and smiling :D

Dalek Supreme D L
17-05-2015, 21:04
My two, both Revox, an A77 Dolby model and a B77 mk2.

http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii364/davros124/013_zps5yieakxj.jpg

http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii364/davros124/014_zpsrbuyl0nn.jpg

http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii364/davros124/015_zpswue5qexw.jpg

http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii364/davros124/016_zpsvqqk6qbl.jpg


Regards Neil

337alant
18-05-2015, 02:01
Wow it looks almost new , Great find :)

If you squint and look at the R2R it looks like its happy and smiling :D

Yeah agree Al it looks in mint condition
LOl smiley face

Alan

337alant
18-05-2015, 02:04
My two, both Revox, an A77 Dolby model and a B77 mk2.

Regards Neil

2 superb looking R2Rs their Neil, they appear very well looked after

Alan

337alant
18-05-2015, 02:30
Must get this mended one day

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss68/Lodger56/P1020966.jpg

Some of the Akai GX (looks like a GX-255?) models suffered from a faulty batch of Hitachi transistors 2SC458LG, you can still get them, example-
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2SC458-Transistor-x-5-pieces-/400360714066?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item5d375baf52

Alan

Idlewithnodrive
18-05-2015, 14:19
A little low rent compared to most on here, but new to me, so still a work in progress and a heck of a learning curve / adventure :)

http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac143/TheMJMan/CIMG5122_zpsypsmzmlo.jpg

Captain Valve
18-05-2015, 15:01
Keep posting the pics, nice to see all these great machines :eyebrows:

I think it might be time to add an old Revox to the collection. Really like the E36 above, especially the retro case.

BTH K10A
18-05-2015, 16:53
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/emttsd15/IMG_1066_zps34a02869.jpg (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/emttsd15/media/IMG_1066_zps34a02869.jpg.html)

Lodgesound
18-05-2015, 21:11
These machines were lovely and a stable for BBC radio reporters.

That Scotch brand tape in the picture - the one with the green backing - incredibly stable and made ONLY for the BBC by 3M.

RichB
18-05-2015, 21:50
This thread is veritable tape porn....

I can feel something stirring down in the wallet area.:lol:

Dalek Supreme D L
19-05-2015, 11:14
2 superb looking R2Rs their Neil, they appear very well looked after

Alan

Thanks Alan

The B77 has a broken flip switch but other than that is fine, the A77 is the best of the two re condition.


Regards Neil

Barry
19-05-2015, 18:22
Keep posting the pics, nice to see all these great machines :eyebrows:

I think it might be time to add an old Revox to the collection. Really like the E36 above, especially the retro case.

If you like the cosmetics of the Revox E36, you ought to try and track down a G36 (aka Revox 736). This was the last of the Revox designs to use valves, had a similar 'retro' styling and was a machine favoured by many musicians for their own use. The G36 can take 10.5" diameter spools.

(Thirty five years ago I turned down the opportunity to buy a G36 for £25. I declined.)

It was superseded by the A77/B77 designs.

Barry
19-05-2015, 18:30
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/emttsd15/IMG_1066_zps34a02869.jpg (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/emttsd15/media/IMG_1066_zps34a02869.jpg.html)

I had a couple of Uher 4400 machines: one was a 4400, the second a 4400 IC. Having a couple of 2-track machines (a Ferrograph 632 and a Nagra IV-S), I found having 4-track machines as being an uncessary format. Had I aquired a 2-track version (the 4200) I could well have kept it; despite the 4000 Series Uhers being limited to 5" diameter spools.

Your machine looks to be in excellent condition. :)

paskinn
19-05-2015, 18:31
I used the Uher in my early days in broadcasting...complete pain in the rear. We ended up using either Marantz machines or Walkman pros. Fragile but light. Try moving about with a Uher banging against you. It also made you too 'visible.' Didn't like them at all.

BTH K10A
19-05-2015, 18:39
These machines were lovely and a stable for BBC radio reporters.

That Scotch brand tape in the picture - the one with the green backing - incredibly stable and made ONLY for the BBC by 3M.

That one is ex BBC Radio kent. I bought it at a boot fair together with a Leak TL25 and pre that supposedly came from the same source. I think it was £125 for both.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/emttsd15/IMG_1064_zpsf0afd380.jpg (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/emttsd15/media/IMG_1064_zpsf0afd380.jpg.html)

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/emttsd15/IMG_1065_zps92f7e20d.jpg (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/emttsd15/media/IMG_1065_zps92f7e20d.jpg.html)

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/emttsd15/IMG_0811_zps92c89b90.jpg (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/emttsd15/media/IMG_0811_zps92c89b90.jpg.html)

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/emttsd15/IMG_0813_zps6e596f0a.jpg (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/emttsd15/media/IMG_0813_zps6e596f0a.jpg.html)

Dalek Supreme D L
19-05-2015, 22:46
If you like the cosmetics of the Revox E36, you ought to try and track down a G36 (aka Revox 736). This was the last of the Revox designs to use valves, had a similar 'retro' styling and was a machine favoured by many musicians for their own use. The G36 can take 10.5" diameter spools.

(Thirty five years ago I turned down the opportunity to buy a G36 for £25. I declined.)

It was superseded by the A77/B77 designs.

I would love a G36. I know that Tim de Paravicini of EAR used to do modifications on G36s, I bet those were special.


Regards Neil

Barry
20-05-2015, 15:51
Some more photos showing the Nagra IV-S fitted with either 5" spools or 7" diameter spools (the latter being the largest size the machine can take and about the only practical limitation of the recorder).

http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy88/barrydhunt/028-1.jpg
[with 5"spools]

http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy88/barrydhunt/005-5.jpg
[with 7" spools]

Lodgesound
20-05-2015, 18:47
I have 2 of these machines - they are truly sublime in terms of both tape handling and sound quality - what Kudelski achieved with a single motor transport here is nothing short of stunning.

The Black Adder
20-05-2015, 20:39
I would love an IV-S... Such a well made little thing.

Quick question, can it record at 15ips on 7" reels or do you need the OGB adapter for that?

Barry
20-05-2015, 20:55
I would love an IV-S... Such a well made little thing.

Quick question, can it record at 15ips on 7" reels or do you need the OGB adapter for that?

Yes - you can record at 15ips using 7" spools on the Nagra IV-S, but you will get through the tape quickly. Assuming a 7" spool holds 1200' of tape, at 15 ips that's 960 seconds worth of recording, or 16 minutes. The Nagra IV-S was designed as a portable machine for interviews, recording bird song or film dialogue - all of which do not need a long recording time capacity.

If you want to use 10.5" spools you will need to use the QGB adapter but the combination is so clumbersome, you may as well go for a decent Revox or Studer machine (say the Revox PR99 or a Studer A62 or B62) capable of taking 10.5" diameter spools.

Captain Valve
20-05-2015, 21:46
Barry,

Thanks for the suggestion of a Revox G36, seems just what I'm looking for. Let the hunt begin.

337alant
21-05-2015, 02:46
That one is ex BBC Radio kent. I bought it at a boot fair together with a Leak TL25 and pre that supposedly came from the same source. I think it was £125 for both.

Wow thats got to be an absolute bargain, and from a boot fair:eyebrows: !, I never found any decent HIFI gear at a boot fair :(

TheMooN
22-05-2015, 10:00
Really good to see such enthusiasm for this format alive and well , for my part, and for a number of reasons, I am planning to reduce my machine count down to a more manageable single Nagra IVS with an QGB adapter.

The Black Adder
22-05-2015, 11:17
It's mad... the QGB unit costs more than the actual tape unit! - Very nice though.

I'd be interested in knowing what machines you might be moving on, Roger as I'm looking in to a new machine myself.

PM me if you could help. :)

Lodgesound
23-05-2015, 14:23
Are you interested in a near mint condition Otari Mx 55?

The Black Adder
01-06-2015, 17:33
A quick question if I may...

Would I have any problems in volume or clipping with connecting unbalanced (output from pre or DAC) to a balanced input of a tape deck (using custom made IC or adapter) and then again from a balanced output (from deck) to an unbalanced input of pre?

Been looking in to some lovely reel to reels that all have balanced I/O but I've got conflicting advice on this. Some say I'd need a DI Box? And depending if the tape deck has VU levels it might therefore have to go through a PPM/Monitor too!

Sounds quite convoluted if you ask me. Any thoughts, chaps?

PaulStewart
02-06-2015, 21:27
Hi Jo'

I have my PR99s running into THESE (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/XLR-TO-PHONO-ADAPTORS-FOR-REVOX-STUDER-PR99-/321044750042?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4abfc21eda) into my Art Audio VPL with no problem in either direction. If your tape input has enough head room there should be no trouble, but a simple attenuator should do the trick.

paskinn
03-06-2015, 08:52
Excellent to find such enthusiasm for these lovely devices. I now live in Lisbon much of the year, so am planning to find my ultra-rare Ferrograph Logic Seven a good new home. It was serviced by Serviesound, Geoff Kramer, and is a great example of the last British Ferrograph.
Anyway, if someone with an existing Collection of machines would provide a safe and carefulhome I would let them have this at a very reasonable cost....but not for resale. The machine would need to be collected from East Sussex, when I am in the UK.....late this month or August.
What's important is that the machine is cherished and preserved. It's history. Pm me, but only if you have enough interest and knowledge to provide a new home. Thanks

The Black Adder
03-06-2015, 19:47
Thanks, Paul. I'll keep those in mind. :)

The Black Adder
04-06-2015, 04:08
I've just ordered someting! - Oooooh! Very excited!

:eyebrows:

Audio Al
04-06-2015, 04:13
I've just ordered someting! - Oooooh! Very excited!

:eyebrows:


DONT leave us hanging :eek:, Spill the beans :eyebrows:, What have you ordered :scratch:

Is it a :reel:__:reel: :)

337alant
04-06-2015, 07:12
Excellent to find such enthusiasm for these lovely devices. I now live in Lisbon much of the year, so am planning to find my ultra-rare Ferrograph Logic Seven a good new home. It was serviced by Serviesound, Geoff Kramer, and is a great example of the last British Ferrograph.
Anyway, if someone with an existing Collection of machines would provide a safe and carefulhome I would let them have this at a very reasonable cost....but not for resale. The machine would need to be collected from East Sussex, when I am in the UK.....late this month or August.
What's important is that the machine is cherished and preserved. It's history. Pm me, but only if you have enough interest and knowledge to provide a new home. Thanks

Paskin
I would love to buy the Ferrograph from you to add to my collection they are beautiful machines please PM me details and pictures

Alan

paskinn
04-06-2015, 07:39
Audio Al is having the Ferrograph. I think he will find it a remarkably good sounding machine...to my ears it beats the pants off any Revox for sheer sound quality, but it doesn't feel as 'commercial', more industrial really. These machines were used mainly by te government, in submarines and also, I understand, in spying roles . No Japanese machine I know of, and have used, sounds as good either.
But usual British story, under-investment and company changes knocked a great company on the head. They ended up as NEAL making cassette machines for police interrogations. Good machines, the NEAL, got one somewhere.j

The Black Adder
04-06-2015, 14:42
DONT leave us hanging :eek:, Spill the beans :eyebrows:, What have you ordered :scratch:

Is it a :reel:__:reel: :)

Aye...

A :reel:__:reel: it is.

I've bought a Studer A807 MKII... should be arriving next week sometime. It's in very nice nick too.

1/4" 2 track.

It doesn't have the VU meters so I'm after an external VU Meter, preferably one with input control but not essential at the moment.

I cannot ruddy wait!!! :)

Audio Al
04-06-2015, 14:48
Aye...

A :reel:__:reel: it is.

I've bought a Studer A807 MKII... should be arriving next week sometime. It's in very nice nick too.

1/4" 2 track.

It doesn't have the VU meters so I'm after an external VU Meter, preferably one with input control but not essential at the moment.

I cannot ruddy wait!!! :)

:worthless:

:D

I can't wait either ;)

Barry
04-06-2015, 16:54
It will look something like this (though this is a Mk. I machine, also without meters):

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NDgwWDY0MA==/z/k7kAAOSw2XFUcMYn/$_1.JPG

337alant
04-06-2015, 17:47
Superb I love studers :stalks:

Here is the meter bridge you need but probably more than you paid for the player :eek:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Studer-Revox-A807-VU-Meter-Overbridge-VU-Meter-/181683605899?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a4d2fd18b


Alan

The Black Adder
04-06-2015, 18:43
I'll post some pics.

Audio Al
04-06-2015, 18:45
:eyebrows::D:eyebrows:

Very nice

Fingers crossed it gets to you in 1 piece

The Black Adder
04-06-2015, 18:51
lol.. yes... that's the only worry at the moment.

Barry
04-06-2015, 19:43
Wow - it looks to be in mint condition! :eek: Well done. :)

Ali Tait
04-06-2015, 19:48
Very nice!

The Black Adder
04-06-2015, 20:29
Thanks chaps... just hope it gets here ok.. (grinds teeth, nibbles fingernails)

Audio Al
04-06-2015, 23:38
Does it come with the reels and Nad adaptors :)

Roy S
04-06-2015, 23:42
Does it come with the reels and Nad adaptors :)

Don't think I'd want my nads adapted :eyebrows: (Nab?)

Audio Al
04-06-2015, 23:57
Don't think I'd want my nads adapted :eyebrows: (Nab?)

Roy , dont knock it till you have tried it :D

The Black Adder
05-06-2015, 04:29
no, unfortunately not.... but I'll get some later. It does come with Nabs but the standard plastic ones.

The Black Adder
05-06-2015, 08:07
Can anyone recommmend a PPM unit?

The Canford ones are great but expensive. I've seen a TSL unit for good money. Ex BBC.

Lodgesound
05-06-2015, 10:12
That does look to be a very nice machine Jo - we have 2 of them at my workplace and I can vouch for how reliable they are.

PPM units (stereo ones) do tend to be very expensive however look at TSL units.

You may also want to consider software versions - there is some free software available written by an ex BBC engineer which emulates BBC PPM's absolutely faithfully in every way including looks and response times. The software allows you to calibrate to your computer soundcard or interface so accuracy in level monitoring is not an issue.

paskinn
05-06-2015, 12:49
Lovely machine, the Studer. I spent many happy hours using them for editing. A real delight to use in that role....with a good editing block and plenty of 'sticky.' There once was a time before digital when a programme might involve a thousand physical edits.....I know, I was that man.
Got to be honest, digital was a blessing for editing. But where is the beauty?

The Black Adder
05-06-2015, 13:05
That does look to be a very nice machine Jo - we have 2 of them at my workplace and I can vouch for how reliable they are.

PPM units (stereo ones) do tend to be very expensive however look at TSL units.

You may also want to consider software versions - there is some free software available written by an ex BBC engineer which emulates BBC PPM's absolutely faithfully in every way including looks and response times. The software allows you to calibrate to your computer soundcard or interface so accuracy in level monitoring is not an issue.

Hello Stewart.

Many thanks... yes I can't wait. Good to know they are reliable. I'll probably be picking you and the others brains for advice things later if that's ok. :)

The Black Adder
05-06-2015, 13:07
But where is the beauty?

Indeed... :)

TheMooN
06-06-2015, 10:58
My apologies Jo, I missed your comment entirely :doh:

However, It looks as tho you are rather well sorted now, I hope the Studer gives of good service to you.




It's mad... the QGB unit costs more than the actual tape unit! - Very nice though.

I'd be interested in knowing what machines you might be moving on, Roger as I'm looking in to a new machine myself.

PM me if you could help. :)

The Black Adder
08-06-2015, 11:39
lol.. no worries. Thanks anyway. :)

Yep, and today, the Studer has landed! - She's a beauty! :)

I need some recommendations for cleaning, tape calibration, demag procedures and some pointers to the best place to buy pinch rollers etc...

The machine is as clean as a new pin and has been demagged but could always do with a quick clean myself.

If anyone can help that would be super!

Thanks
Jo

337alant
08-06-2015, 17:12
Can anyone recommmend a PPM unit?

The Canford ones are great but expensive. I've seen a TSL unit for good money. Ex BBC.

Jo what about buying a mixer ?

Alan

337alant
08-06-2015, 17:53
lol.. no worries. Thanks anyway. :)

Yep, and today, the Studer has landed! - She's a beauty! :)

I need some recommendations for cleaning, tape calibration, demag procedures and some pointers to the best place to buy pinch rollers etc...

The machine is as clean as a new pin and has been demagged but could always do with a quick clean myself.

If anyone can help that would be super!

Thanks
Jo
Good to hear it arrived in nice condition

For cleaning most things I use 99.9% IPA
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-X-1-Litre-IPA-ISOPROPYL-ALCOHOL-ISOPROPANOL-LIQUID-99-9-Watertight-Screw-Cap-/281118434574?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4173f6e50e
For switches and pots I use Craig Deoxit gold, its not cheep but its vgood IMO
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Caig-DeoxIT-Gold-Contact-Conditioner-and-Protector-Spray-5-oz-/181715894977?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2a4f1c82c1
Or cheaper Maplin Servisol Super 10
http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/servisol-super-10-switch-contact-cleaner-200ml-jp17t.
Use Naptha lighter fuel on the roller followed by a cotton bud soaked in clean water
Tape calibration you need an MRL alignment tape, playback test tones and speed tape, A signal generator for input and record test tones with adjustable gain, A meter for measuring true RMS AC or DBs, an Oscilloscope for azimuth and some speed measurement, and a wow and flutter meter.
Demag get a good quality demagnetiser, this is what I use
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HAN-D-MAG-international-studio-tape-head-demagnetizer-115-or-220-volt-BRAND-NEW-/221248600430?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item338371b96e
You dont need to demag all the time and you can do permanent damage if your not careful
Start by cleaning all the tape heads and guider and rollers in the tape path
Add an extension lead to the handimag
Majke sure before you switch it on there are no tapes anywhere in the room 0r anything that could be affected by the demag, I take mine in the kitchen and put it on the island.
Put the demag about 3 ft away from the machine and switch on.
Very slowly move the handimag towards the left most item in the tape path and bring it as close as possible without touching it, you should feel it vibrate when it gets close
Very slowly move the mag up and down and left and right across the item then whilst still slowly oscillating the mag slowly move it away back to the 3ft away position
Repeat for each head and guide working your way across the tape path
#when finished move it away to over 3 ft and switch off
Never switch off when it is near the tape heads it could leave them permanently magnetized

Pinch roller :eek:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Studer-A67-B67-A807-A810-DELUXE-roller-bearing-PINCH-ROLLER-kit-/271721121402?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item3f43d7467a
http://www.terrysrubberrollers.com/

Alan

337alant
08-06-2015, 18:28
Setting the input / output level's

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8600/16316208991_c4246fd02c_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qRNQu8)IMG_2201 (https://flic.kr/p/qRNQu8) by Alan Towell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/69508926@N05/), on Flickr

Alan

Lodgesound
08-06-2015, 20:54
Replay monitoring & line-up equipment.....

http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/ss270/Lodgesound/IMG_0159_zpsecqjktqn.jpg (http://s582.photobucket.com/user/Lodgesound/media/IMG_0159_zpsecqjktqn.jpg.html)

Firebottle
09-06-2015, 07:04
Twin twin PPM is an amusing header. Presumably because there are two needles in each meter?

Classic video waveform on the scope, mine never looked that good when I used to play with amateur television :doh:

:)

Lodgesound
09-06-2015, 12:33
Twin twin PPM is an amusing header. Presumably because there are two needles in each meter?

Classic video waveform on the scope, mine never looked that good when I used to play with amateur television :doh:

:)

It is very easy to monitor and line up 2 channel stereo with such a unit - the right hand meter reads sum and difference which can actually be used for phase alignment in the absence of a scope of phase scope.

2T pulse and bar from a test signal generator on the left scope.

337alant
09-06-2015, 16:56
Very nice equipment Stewart:eyebrows:

Alan

Lodgesound
10-06-2015, 02:27
Master tape replay - audio is the actual sound leaving the machine....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-jIQFtK0jQ

Audio Al
10-06-2015, 03:12
Very nice Stewart ,2 great soundtracks , played at 20 ips :eyebrows:

Lovely machine :reel:ħħ:reel:

crackorama
10-06-2015, 07:52
Bouncing around the north sea on a transfer boat one day from home ,listening to this on a £10 set of headphones via my mobile phone and this
still sounds amazing. Hats off.

337alant
10-06-2015, 16:36
Absolutely fabulous Stewart.

I think Ive just wet my pants :clapclapclap:

Alan

Lodgesound
10-06-2015, 21:10
Many thanks all....I feel humbled.....

337alant
18-06-2015, 20:14
Incoming watch this space :eyebrows: :D

Alan

337alant
20-06-2015, 13:26
Just picked up another addition to the collection :D, the Studer A810 this is a machine I have wanted for a long time, lovely quiet running machine in operation, I havent tried it in the system yet so cant comment on sound quality,
Its just a shame it didnt have the VU meter panel, still cant have everything
If any one has a meter panel I would be interested in buying it?

https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3891/18985536645_68508a4c73_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/uVFQAH)20150620_135031 (https://flic.kr/p/uVFQAH) by Alan Towell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/69508926@N05/), on Flickr

https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3956/18985516865_5498f047fa_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/uVFJHF)20150620_135043 (https://flic.kr/p/uVFJHF) by Alan Towell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/69508926@N05/), on Flickr

Alan

Ali Tait
20-06-2015, 13:44
Very nice Alan, looks in great nick.

Lodgesound
20-06-2015, 13:56
Ohh yes - lovely!!

We have 2 of these where I work.......how about a shot with the front open to show the card cage......

The Black Adder
20-06-2015, 14:03
Very nice Alan :)

I'm needing mine serviced at the moment, can anyone recommend?

Checking mine over, it's hardly been used... bloody lovely!

337alant
20-06-2015, 14:21
Ah so thats where the cards are ;), could do with a manual this looks quite complicated :eek:
sorry not great photos with the phone


https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/489/18799444970_246512d173_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/uDf52y)20150620_150640 (https://flic.kr/p/uDf52y) by Alan Towell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/69508926@N05/), on Flickr

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/519/18987138945_332f861af2_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/uVQ3Uz)20150620_150633 (https://flic.kr/p/uVQ3Uz) by Alan Towell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/69508926@N05/), on Flickr

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3677/18800915869_52c6b87df0_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/uDnBgT)20150620_150655 (https://flic.kr/p/uDnBgT) by Alan Towell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/69508926@N05/), on Flickr

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/445/18799452348_06552caf3f_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/uDf7dL)20150620_150702 (https://flic.kr/p/uDf7dL) by Alan Towell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/69508926@N05/), on Flickr

Lodgesound
20-06-2015, 15:00
Mmmmmm...lovely lovely Studer engineering...

There is a handy guide to operation on the underside of the flap I think Alan...

Also Jo.....what level of service do you need?

Lodgesound
20-06-2015, 15:27
Also - a small movie of the machine running perhaps Alan??

Mmmmmmm...

337alant
20-06-2015, 15:52
Yes will do when I get it home Stewart, Im at the caravan with the grand kids at the mo :D

Alan

The Black Adder
20-06-2015, 16:41
Hi Stewart.

I'd be looking for a full service, that is lubrication and re-calibration.

What tape is best for you guys? I normally use RMGI 911 studio master.

337alant
20-06-2015, 21:47
I spotted some Frako caps on the cards so I will change them out and maybe the memory battery

not sure about the Roedestien bakerlight caps, solid tants and phillips caps ?.

Alan

Lodgesound
21-06-2015, 03:41
yes us too Jo....

The Black Adder
21-06-2015, 07:45
Thanks, Stewart.

Hi Alan.

I have some FRAKO and ROE caps that need replacing too. Do you know where to source the large smoothing caps on these machines? The ones at the top of the machine? They are a stud bolt fitting to the chassis. They are not leaking but best be safe.

The other ones on mine are on the spool controller board (I think).

Can anyone recommend someone to give it a service/calibration?

BTW... if anyone is looking at Studers (and parts for them) on ebay at the moment, there is a seller on there that is certainly not very nice to deal with. He has quite a collection of machines at the moment that are pretty worn out.

337alant
21-06-2015, 08:45
Nagravox do those big caps and also full kits of caps see link below
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Studer-A807-tape-recorder-ESSENTIAL-capacitor-preset-pot-upgrade-overhaul-kit-/281523421959?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item418c1a8307

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Studer-A810-tape-recorder-ESSENTIAL-capacitor-preset-pot-upgrade-overhaul-kit-/281522620299?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item418c0e478b

If yours has an X2 rifa cap accross the mains input then change that as well
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EVOX-RIFA-PME271M647K-CAPACITOR-CLASS-X2-0-47UF-/390565312660?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item5aef81b894

Alan

The Black Adder
21-06-2015, 08:58
ok, thanks.

337alant
21-06-2015, 10:08
The only thing Im not sure about in those nagravox kits is the Hermei caps as they dont have a good reputation.
Id rather have a Panasonic FC in there for most of the caps and for anything in the signal path or record playback input output boards I would use Nichicon muse KZ or Elna Silmic 2

Alan

The Black Adder
21-06-2015, 11:56
Thanks, well I doubt I would tackle it myself. I don't know my way around this machine so i'd rather give it to someone who does.

Lodgesound
21-06-2015, 14:43
Hi Jo;

I am going to maybe go against the advice of many in this field but I would honestly say that if your machine is working then leave it well alone.

Where I work we have machines in excess of 40 years old (videotape machines mostly - quadruplex) that have never had any major or minor components changed.

We monitor conditions obviously but we will only start changing components if there is a clear need for it.

Also bear in mind (as I am sure you do) that Studer electronics like many systems in this kind of field are extremely finely balanced - only replace with exact component values if you have to.

We can service and calibrate the machine for you if you wish but would only start changing out components on specific request or if we were to actually encounter a fault. We can also provide a backup copy on tape of an album or collection of music that you own on a new reel of tape that you provide. The line up tones we record at the head of such a recording would serve in future as reference flux level tones as well as an azimuth reference.

These machines are a LONG way from the sort of awful rubbish that was sold domestically during this period which is why they still work so well today. The components Studer used were of extremely high standard.

337alant
21-06-2015, 20:08
OK got is home and plugged it in ?, problem the in out XLRs are the opposite way round of all my other R2Rs ? so had to use adapters and a phono lead
Stuck on a tape made on one of my Tascam BR20s and it sounded spot :)
Recorded a couple of tracks and note there is no way to attenuate the input level? and it seems a bit high direct from my DAC
Anyway it still sounded good so here is a video of the A810 playing Gregory porter, no love dying.

https://youtu.be/MNAnJk0h58Y

MNAnJk0h58Y


Alan

Audio Al
21-06-2015, 20:38
:eek: Very nice Alan :eyebrows:

Lodgesound
21-06-2015, 20:46
Ohhhh hello!!

LOVELY Alan!!

Barry
21-06-2015, 21:41
BTW... if anyone is looking at Studers (and parts for them) on ebay at the moment, there is a seller on there that is certainly not very nice to deal with. He has quite a collection of machines at the moment that are pretty worn out.

Name and shame!

337alant
22-06-2015, 12:38
Got some good advice over on tapeheads.net and with ref to the circuit Diags the XLR input outputs go directly to an identical interference filter first and have the same pin out plug in lead so you can just swap them over :)
So I did that and have managed to spin the stickers round so they indicate the correct orientation of Input output, they are upside down now but not bothered by that
Now everything is interchangeable with the other R2Rs and it lets me use my Clotz mc5000 xlr interconnects which I prefer *bigthumbup*.
Had a look at the manual last night and the set up doesn't look that difficult now I have familiarized myself with the controls.
Have to say the Studer sounds superb, Im very happy with this machine :eyebrows:

https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3874/18429940984_e7660004a1_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/u5Agnb)IMG_2382 (https://flic.kr/p/u5Agnb) by Alan Towell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/69508926@N05/), on Flickr

Alan

337alant
24-06-2015, 20:07
Its looking and sounding really good now
I recaped most of the small daughter boards yesterday with Nichicon muse KZ only caps I didnt have were the 1000uf 6v and some bi polar to replace the 47uf ROE caps, ill get some nichicon muse bipolar on order and swap them out
TBH most of the caps changed measured in spec only a couple of the blue phillips looked a bit bulged and measured out
There are a couple of ROE caps that look cracked IMO
After the cap changes it sounded worse yesterday but thats normal I find and it can take a few days or a week for the new caps and soldered joints to re-form, its sounding much better today.
This is a superb R2R and is a professional quality design quality like the Otari's IMO

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/341/18502383694_e319aa85df_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/ubZy4q)IMG_2476 (https://flic.kr/p/ubZy4q) by Alan Towell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/69508926@N05/), on Flickr



Alan

PaulStewart
26-06-2015, 09:22
Can anyone recommend someone to give it a service/calibration?

BTW... if anyone is looking at Studers (and parts for them) on ebay at the moment, there is a seller on there that is certainly not very nice to deal with. He has quite a collection of machines at the moment that are pretty worn out.

Jo for service I use Henry Dulat in Fetcham in Surrey, PM me if you want contact details. On the eBay seller if you mean a guy calked Barry, he is a thiveing scumbag and should be avoided at all costs.

topoxforddoc
04-07-2015, 16:35
Here's mine - a high speed 15 ips Revox G36. Just bought a couple of albums from the Tape Project in the USA. Been playing this today. OMG it's stunning !

http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj516/topoxforddoc/Revox%20G36%20amp%20Sonny%20Rollins.jpg (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/topoxforddoc/media/Revox%20G36%20amp%20Sonny%20Rollins.jpg.html)

The Black Adder
04-07-2015, 16:47
Jo for service I use Henry Dulat in Fetcham in Surrey, PM me if you want contact details. On the eBay seller if you mean a guy calked Barry, he is a thiveing scumbag and should be avoided at all costs.

Thanks, Paul... Yes, I really didn't like his attitude. Glad someone else has noticed.

The Black Adder
04-07-2015, 16:47
Here's mine - a high speed 15 ips Revox G36. Just bought a couple of albums from the Tape Project in the USA. Been playing this today. OMG it's stunning !



Vvery niice.....!! :)

337alant
04-07-2015, 17:26
Here's mine - a high speed 15 ips Revox G36. Just bought a couple of albums from the Tape Project in the USA. Been playing this today. OMG it's stunning !

http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj516/topoxforddoc/Revox%20G36%20amp%20Sonny%20Rollins.jpg (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/topoxforddoc/media/Revox%20G36%20amp%20Sonny%20Rollins.jpg.html)
look superb Charlie and I would love to hear one of those tape project reels

Alan

The Black Adder
04-07-2015, 17:53
me too actually.

topoxforddoc
04-07-2015, 21:47
Jo & Alan,

Let me see what I can do over the summer :)

Best wishes,

Charlie

Barry
05-07-2015, 16:11
BTW... if anyone is looking at Studers (and parts for them) on ebay at the moment, there is a seller on there that is certainly not very nice to deal with. He has quite a collection of machines at the moment that are pretty worn out.


Name and shame!


On the eBay seller if you mean a guy called Barry, he is a thieving scumbag and should be avoided at all costs.

Oh dear - that's unfortunate. I wish I hadn't asked now! :doh:

Box13
05-07-2015, 16:21
The thing I find dismaying about them is the premium on the soft wear now.

PaulStewart
05-07-2015, 17:01
Oh dear - that's unfortunate. I wish I hadn't asked now! :doh:

It's not you Barry.... It's him err Barry. He's from "Oop North" not Essex :)

Barry
05-07-2015, 17:03
It's not you Barry.... It's him err Barry. He's from "Oop North" not Essex :)

Yes I know Paul, I was only joking. I just feel embarassed to share the same name with a "thieving scumbag". :lol:

Audio Al
05-07-2015, 18:30
"thieving scumbag"

New forum name for you Barry ;)

Just so we don't get the 2 Barry's mixed up :lol:

Barry
05-07-2015, 19:00
"thieving scumbag"

New forum name for you Barry ;)

Just so we don't get the 2 Barry's mixed up :lol:

Cheeky! You do want a separate R2R section in the Forum don't you? :D

Audio Al
05-07-2015, 19:01
Cheeky! You do want a separate R2R section in the Forum don't you? :D

Yes please :D

topoxforddoc
29-07-2015, 22:05
Added Josie's (Black Adder) Studer A807 to my collection. Here she is sharing front of house with my Revox G36. Just waiting for more tapes to arrive now. Getting addictive :)

http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj516/topoxforddoc/Hi-Fi%20July%202015%20small-.jpg (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/topoxforddoc/media/Hi-Fi%20July%202015%20small-.jpg.html)

Audio Al
30-07-2015, 06:35
Added Josie's (Black Adder) Studer A807 to my collection. Here she is sharing front of house with my Revox G36. Just waiting for more tapes to arrive now. Getting addictive :)

http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj516/topoxforddoc/Hi-Fi%20July%202015%20small-.jpg (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/topoxforddoc/media/Hi-Fi%20July%202015%20small-.jpg.html)


:stalks::stalks::eek: /oooo that setup looks very nice :)

PaulStewart
23-08-2015, 20:16
The BBC Modded A77 vari-speed is in the system as it is the one I use the most at the moment. The PR99s are being kept for location recording.

http://theartofsound.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15280&d=1440360632

This is what it looks like on the rack

http://theartofsound.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15279&d=1440356338

Dalek Supreme D L
23-08-2015, 20:22
The BBC Modded A77 vari-speed is in the system as it is the one I use the most at the moment. The PR99s are being kept for location recording.

http://theartofsound.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15280&d=1440360632

This is what it looks like on the rack

http://theartofsound.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15279&d=1440356338

Very nice set up Paul.



Regards Neil

Dalek Supreme D L
23-08-2015, 20:22
Added Josie's (Black Adder) Studer A807 to my collection. Here she is sharing front of house with my Revox G36. Just waiting for more tapes to arrive now. Getting addictive :)

http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj516/topoxforddoc/Hi-Fi%20July%202015%20small-.jpg (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/topoxforddoc/media/Hi-Fi%20July%202015%20small-.jpg.html)

Very nice


Regards Neil

struth
23-08-2015, 20:36
Very nice set up Paul.



Regards Neil

Yes, very eye catching Paul; quality right through the system

337alant
23-08-2015, 21:10
Lovely A77 Paul very nice indeed :eyebrows:

Alan

337alant
05-09-2015, 19:36
Been updating my Studer A810, managed to get hold of a pair of VU meterpanels and a 4 speed controller which I have replaced th digital LED display and fader system.
Not an easy job as there is a fair bit of wiring and an extra circuit board for the old LED and fader interface and it isnt obviouse where to plug in the new VU panels even with the manual but I think I have it sussed now and it still sounds fab and looks better with VUs IMO

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5821/21093181816_634dc24220_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/y8W55y)IMG_2531 (https://flic.kr/p/y8W55y) by Alan Towell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/69508926@N05/), on Flickr

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/660/20498304043_335802f4d4_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/xenaDe)IMG_2538 (https://flic.kr/p/xenaDe) by Alan Towell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/69508926@N05/), on Flickr

Alan

Ali Tait
05-09-2015, 20:16
Nice job Alan, how does it compare to the Tascam?

337alant
06-09-2015, 05:02
HI Ali,
The Studer is the best sounding R2R I own, and is my pride and joy:), that said the Tascam BR20 & Otari MX55 are still an excellent machine's and sound very good in their own right but the studer has the edge on overall sound quality, realism and slam it just doeas everything a little bit better, has a superb tape transport but has better proffessional build quality.
I am still working on this machine when I have time, I have recapped all the electrolytics on the daughter boards, replacing all the Frako, Roe rodestine bakerlite and phillips caps with Nichicon muse and bipolar caps as applicable
There is still the power supplies, Backplane, Stabilizer, display, capstan and reel motor boards to look at when I get time but it still sounds superb to me
I also want to upgrade the 3 eprom chips from the 25/86 to the 25/91 version and change the memory back up battery at the same time. I have the parts but Im trying to get my head round the best method of doing that without loosing all of the calibation data which is stored on those chips. Its not the end of the world if you do loose it all as the basic electronic settings are in the manual you can write down all the actual calibration settings before you start it would just take a little time to reprogramme it all.
These are pretty complicated machines (to me :eek:)with many dip switches and electronic calibration but I am enjoying the challenge of learning how to do it propperly.
I may be leaning on Stewart's knowledge (lodge sound) in the future for advice on the best way to fully calibrate this machine for 2 tape types :eyebrows:.



Alan

Ali Tait
06-09-2015, 06:53
Bringing it to NEBO perhaps?

337alant
06-09-2015, 17:40
Ali
I would love to but due to work commitments I will not be able to attend :(

Alan

Ali Tait
06-09-2015, 18:30
That's a shame, next time perhaps, like to hear this.