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Labarum
31-05-2009, 15:08
My list continues to grow. I listen using a Squeezebox, but clearly there are other ways.

A 64KB/s AAC+ stream is better than the number suggests.

But here is the list.

Bartók Rádió (Hungary)
http://212.92.28.75:2008/
MP3 at 320kbps

AVRO Klassiek Beste NL MP3 256
http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s55517&Formats=mp3,wma,real&username=sampletime&PartnerId=16

BBC R3 WMA 128
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/wm_asx/aod/radio3.asx

Venice Classic MP3 128
http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/tunein-station.pls?id=4975&filename=playlist.pls

D-dur (Czech Republic)
http://www.rozhlas.cz/audio/download/ddur_maxogg.m3u
OGG at 224kbps

Vltava (Czech Republic)
http://radio.cesnet.cz/cgi-bin/cro3-256-ogg.pls
OGG at 224kbps

Devín (Slovakia)
http://live.slovakradio.sk:8000/Devin_256.ogg
OGG at 256kbps

NRK Alltid Klassisk (Norway)
http://media.hiof.no/streams/m3u/nrk...sk-172.ogg.m3u
OGG at 172kbps

Radio 4 (Netherlands)
http://shoutcast.omroep.nl:8106/listen.pls
MP3 at 192kbps

Baroque Ottawa MP3 128
http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s65422&Formats=mp3,wma,real&username=sampletime&PartnerId=16

Classical Quebec MP3 128
URL: http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s96897&Formats=mp3,wma,real&username=sampletime&PartnerId=16

Radio Swiss Classic MP3 128
http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s25582&Formats=mp3,wma,real&username=sampletime&PartnerId=16

Radio Swiss Classic (Switzerland)
http://stream-1.ssatr.ch/rsc/aacp
AAC+ at 64kbps (sounds like MP3 at 160-192kbps)

Play Classical (UK)
http://audio3.playradiouk.com:8060/
AAC+ at 64kbps (sounds like MP3 at 160-192kbps)

Stratmangler
31-05-2009, 22:41
Hi Brian

I concur with you about the AAC+ streams sounding far better than the kbs would suggest - I listen to little in the way of orchestral music, but this station http://www.radioparadise.com/musiclinks/rp_128aac-1.m3u sounds amazing on the AAC+ stream as opposed to the high bitrate (192 kbs) MP3 streams.

Perhaps AAC+ should be the format adopted by internet radio streaming services - it certainly sounds superior to the bog standard MP3 stuff for a given bitrate.

Chris:)

PS - I've cut and pasted some of the station streams you listed into Squeezecenter into "Favorites".

Stratmangler
31-05-2009, 22:49
Just a thought - the BBC constantly bemoan the fact that they have little bandwidth to play with for their streaming services. Would it not be sensible for the BBC to adopt AAC+ as their standard for live radio streaming ?

Would it take much to integrate AAC+ into their iPlayer service ?

I suppose we can dream.

Chris:)

Labarum
01-06-2009, 06:39
I think the BBC is planning to move to AAC+

Because they were so early into the streaming game they started with Real Player format, and got locked into that. Some of their streams are available in a resonable quality WMA format, but I look forward to AAC+ being the standard.

See these pages, and explore the whole site

http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/2009/02/bbc_test_aac+_streams_overtake_dab_quality.php

http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/broadband_internet_radio.htm

And for the better WMA streams

http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/2008/11/bbc_testing_live_internet_streams.php

The East European OGG streams are very good. I don't know whether that is down to the OGG coding, or because many of the transmissions are of live concerts, or of recordings that has seen little processing.

Do note that a Squeezebox with the latest Squeezecenter server downloaded will stream both OGG and AAC+ without any fuss.

Note;

I am still exploring myself.

Getting at those AAC+ streams without using iPlayer is a problem at the moment, see

http://groups.google.md/group/alt.radio.digital/browse_thread/thread/9941718c8e252eb1

It seems I will need to load the iPlayer Plugin for Squeezebox if I want them.

For now I will use the 128 WMA for Radio 3 - Radio 4 is not critical for speach.

The Grand Wazoo
01-06-2009, 07:13
Thanks for the great list: It's really useful to have recommendations rather than having to trawl through the thousands of possible sites.

I'll be giving some of these a whizz soon. Cheers!

lovejoy
01-06-2009, 08:52
I think the BBC is planning to move to AAC+



You can get AAC/AAC+ streams from BBC Radio stations by going to the iPlayer front page and navigating to the "BBC Labs" link at the bottom right hand side. Click the link and in the BBC Labs page click the "I want to become a labs tester" link. Now, when you listen to a radio station it will be in AAC/AAC+, and it all sounds rather nice too.