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The Grand Wazoo
20-03-2009, 21:22
Right then folks, here comes a big one.

John asked me if I'd like to bash out a few words about Frank Zappa in order to try & expose folks to some new, interesting and different music. I'm hoping there's something here for the Zappa fans too.

ZAPPALOGUE

How many modern musicians have had something fairly lasting named after them? Well, there are a few I can think of. For example there’s John Lennon Airport and there’s even a Rory Gallagher Square in Cork, Ireland. Frank Zappa, however, is different: there are several species, a gene and even a planet named after him. In fact most things about Zappa are different.

Where should I start? Well………he appeared on TV in 1962 playing a piece on a bicycle – that’s not exactly normal fare for rock musicians. He wrote a rock opera ‘I was a Teenage Maltshop’– in 1963 way before Pete Townsend.

He released one of the first double albums in rock music – not only that, but a double album as a debut? – This is pretty much unheard of even now. Not only that, but ‘Freak Out’ was negotiated by him to sell at the same price as a single album – I don’t think that was repeated till punk came along. He was the first to use 16 track recording – there were 40 tracks recorded for parts of ‘Dog Breath’ in 1967. He was using wah-wah pedals on guitar, saxophone and clarinet in 1967 and a certain guitarist who was playing in the venue next door asked to borrow them to experiment with. He was called Jimi something or other.

He suggested an idea for selling music remotely to fans over phone lines – music downloads – even before the CD was available. He was a cultural attaché to Czechoslovakia. He was the first rock musician to have complete control over all of his business and musical affairs. He has released 4 albums of guitar solos – just the solos, yet he regarded himself as an average player. He regularly used sampling (of his own work) before most people had even heard of it.

He wrote music that was virtually impossible for real people to play, but, as an early adopter of the synclavier, he found a way to play it. Conversely, he fostered the talent of some some of the best musicians in the business – have you ever heard of Lowell George?....Warren Cucarullo?…Captain Beefheart?...Terry Bozzio?... Alice Cooper?…Adrian Belew?...Tim Buckley?... Steve Vai, for God’s sake!

Despite all of the above, most people only know of him as the guy who called two of his kids Moon Unit & Dweezil.

Anyway, about the music: Frank Zappa was perhaps the most innovative, eclectic, controversial, contradictory and original musicians ever. He made over 60 albums and had major influences as diverse as Clarence Gatemouth Brown and Stravinski. The impact of his orchestral music is still being realised and understood, but he placed equal importance on stuff as dumb as ‘Louie Louie’, which he frequently covered, and other music as complex and ‘difficult’ as things he did in later life like ‘The Yellow Shark’.

If there’s one thing that Zappa has taught me, it’s that putting music into categories can be the beginning of the end for your own personal discovery of new music – see my thoughts on that particular subject in the thread about Prog Rock elsewhere on The Art of Sound.

Zappa’s music can’t be categorised because there is something for every mood, something for everyone to love and some things that certain people will never love. There is doo-wop, jazz, ballads, heavy rock, dense orchestral music, impenetrable electonica, beautiful guitar playing, fantastically complex percussion, hilarity, satire, ridicule, political and religious commentary, wordplay and just plain noise. Almost all of these themes occur, seemingly at random throughout his entire career, but all are connected in indefinable ways. With Zappa, there are no rules – neither rules of music or subject matter. Because of this it is so hard to define ‘which are the best albums’.

Most fans get into his music through the satirical or downright rude parts of his work – like ‘Valley Girls’, ‘Bobby Brown’ or ‘Don’t Eat the Yellow Snow’. Plenty of folks have a copy of ‘Hot Rats’ nestling in their record collections – but these things are just a tiny part of the world of Zappa.

He’s often been accused of being sexist and this is totally erronerous. Zappa often discusses sex, and there are often sexist themes explored. However, the point is invariably made that the male character is weak and pretty despicable! That’s not to say that within Zappa’s work sex isn’t celebrated…..without shame. And let’s face it, some pretty weird practices and attitudes are discussed. That doesn’t mean they are condoned. “Bad facts make bad law, and people who write bad laws are in my opinion more dangerous than songwriters who celebrate sexuality.”

Here are some things you should try out – you’re bound to like some of them. At the very least your interest in new music might be inspired……..and challenged.

I’ve put things into various different categories and these are simply intended to give you an easy way in.. In the spirit of what I wrote above about FZ’s music being impossible to categorise, you should remember that just because a track is in one category, it could just as easily, and probably does, belong in another, or several others, as well! I’ve also tried not to pick the obvious choices, that way, all but the owners of huge Zappa collections might find something new. Also, there are sometimes several versions, often completely different – I’ve tried to include them all, mostly from memory, so please forgive me if I’ve stuffed it up a couple of times! Different versions are generally listed in chronological order. I’ve pretty much stuck to albums released while FZ was alive. Track titles first, then album titles.

Right then folks, seat belts on please. Chuck your preconceptions out of the window, it’s time to broaden your horizons. Here we go…………

Great Songs. Fantastic Vocal harmonies. Dumb sentiments: Doo-wop.
“Give me a beat. Not a fancy one. Give me a good beat – something I can dance to. It has to go boom-bap, boom-boom-BAP. If it doesn’t, I will hate it very, very much”

‘Love of My Life’ – "Cruising with Ruben and the Jets", "Tinseltown Rebellion", “You Can’t Do That On Stage Anymore Vol. IV”.
‘WPLJ’ – “Burnt Weeny Sandwich”, one of the “You Can’t Do That On Stage Any More” albums – can’t remember which one, though (hereafter known as YCDTOA)
‘Valarie’ – “Burnt Weeny Sandwich”
‘Deseri’ – “Cruising With Reuben & the Jets”
‘The Air’ – “Uncle Meat”
‘The Closer You Are’ – “Them or Us”, “YCDTOA Vol. 4”
‘Go Cry On Somebody Else’s Shoulder’ – “Freak Out”


Help, I’m A Rock!: Rock Music
“The Quaalude Thunder goes here……the shorthand description of a drum fill you hear on certain heavy metal albums – where the guy plays as many notes as he can on all of his thousand tom-toms before he ends with The Big Crash”

‘Joe’s Garage’ – “Joe’s Garage Act I”, “YCDTOA Vol. 3”
‘Muffin Man’ – “Bongo Fury”, “YCDTOA Vol. 6”
‘Camarillo Brillo’ – “Overnite Sensation”, “YCDTOA Vol. 6”.
‘Cosmic Debris’ – “Apostrophe”, “YCDTOA Vol. 3”, “The Best Band You Never Heard in Your Life”
‘Sofa’ – “One Size Fits All”, “YCDTOA Vol 1”, “In New York”, “The Best Band You Never Heard In Your Life”
‘Why Does It Hurt When I Pee?’ – “Joe’s Garage Act I”, “YCDTOA Vol. 3”, – features an STD called Gonnokakakackus.
‘Whipping Post’ – “Them or Us”, “Does Humor Belong In Music?” – Allman Brothers cover
‘My Guitar Wants To Kill Your Mama’ – “Weasels Ripped My Flesh”, “YCDTOA Vol. 4 & 5”


Blue Men Can Sing the Whites: Blues.
“When I first heard it (The Story of My Life by Guitar Slim)……..his style of playing seemed to be beyond the notes – it had more to do with the attitude with which he was mangling his instrument”

‘Directly From My Heart To You’ – “Weasels Ripped My Flesh” – superb violin playing in a tough blues style
‘Road Ladies’ – “Chunga’s Revenge”
‘Lucille Has Messed My Mind Up’ – “Joe’s Garage Act I”, “YCDTOA Vol 3” (also on a rare solo album (same title) by Jeff Simmons – featuring guess who?)


Dumb All Over, A Little Ugly On The Side: Social & Political Satire/Commentary.
“The biggest threat to America today is not Communism. It's the turning of this country into a Fascist Theocracy”

‘Dickie’s Such an Asshole’ – “Broadway The Hard Way” – A live favourite while Nixon was squirming about Watergate, but not released as a recording till 1988
‘Trouble Every Day’ – “Freak Out”, “Roxy & Elsewhere”, “YCDTOA Vol 5”, “Does Humour Belong in Music?”, “The Best Band You Never Heard In Your Life” - ………I’m not black, but there’s a whole lot of times when I wish I wasn’t white.
‘Porn Wars’ – “Frank Zappa Meets The Mothers of Prevention” – Records the battle he took part in against the ‘Washington Wives’ who persuaded their politico husbands to try to censor music
‘When The Lie’s So Big’ – “Broadway The Hard Way” – About Rev. Pat Robertson who had apparently received personal instructions from God to become leader of the Republican Party
‘What’s The Ugliest Part of Your Body?’ – “We’re Only In It For The Money” - in fact the whole album is a statement on the entire 60’s/hippy generation
‘Valley Girls’ – “Ship Arriving Too Late To Save A Drowning Witch”
‘Flakes’ – “Sheik Yerbouti” (a thoughtful treatise on plumbers and other tradesmen).
‘America Drinks & Goes Home’ – “Absolutely Free”


Just Heavenly: Religious Satire/Commentary.
"Religion has mostly proven to be a real-estate scam."
(FZ is generally not satirising religion, as such, but the things that are done in its name by certain ‘Men of God’ who appear on TV in the US.)

‘The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing’ – “You Are What You Is”, “Thing Fish”
‘Heavenly Bank Account’ - “You Are What You Is”, “YCDTOA Vol. I”.
‘Jesus Thinks You’re A Jerk’ – “Broadway The Hard Way”


The Squelchy Section: Sexual satire.
“The President did not answer my letter. Instead, he gave a speech, a short time later, in Crystal City, Virginia, wherein he claimed that everybody in the record industry was a pornographer”

‘Bobby Brown’ – “Sheik Yerbouti”
‘Honey, Don’t You Want a Man Like Me’ – “In New York” - Lines like ‘They saw a real hippy, the candles were drippy’, ‘He was quick to suggest any sport with a puck had to be about the best’ & ‘Her favourite group was Helen Reddy’
‘Dinh-Moe Hum’ – “Overnite Sensation” - ......done spent three hours & I ain’t got a crumb, from the Dinah-Mo, Dinah-Mo, Dinah-Mo Hum……


Zappa Gets Horny: Jazz
“…Jazz standards thrive on II-IV-I (scale). To me this is a hateful progression. In jazz they beef it up a little by adding extra partials into the chords to make them more luxurious……….still the essence of bad white person music”

‘Blessed Relief’ – “The Grand Wazoo”
‘We Are Not Alone’ – “The Man From Utopia” - a track where the melody is played by, of all things, a baritone sax – this one’s meaty, beaty, big & bouncy!!!!!
‘Mr Green Genes’, ‘Son of Mr Green Genes’ – “Uncle Meat”, “Hot Rats”, “The Best Band You Never Heard in Your Life”
‘Peaches en Regalia’ – “Hot Rats”, “Fillmore East June ‘71”, “Tinseltown Rebellion”
‘Big Swifty’ – “Waka/Jawaka”, “YCDTOA Vol. 1 & 2”, “Make a Jazz Noise Here”


Strings Attached: Orchestral (not all of these versions are played by an orchestra!)
“Want to be a composer? You don’t even have to write it down…….it’s only a bunch of air molecules, who’s gonna check up on you?”

‘Dog Breath’ – “Uncle Meat”, “Just Another Band From LA”, “YCDTOA Vol 2”, “The Yellow Shark”,
‘King Kong’ – “Uncle Meat”, “Lumpy Gravy”, “YCDTOA Vol 3”,
‘Oh No’ – “Weasels Ripped My Flesh”, “Lumpy Gravy”, “Roxy & Elsewhere”, “Make a Jazz Noise Here”, “YCDTOA Vol 1”,
‘Strictly Genteel’ – “200 Motels”, “Orchestral Favorites”, “YCDTOA Vol. 6”, “Make a Jazz Noise Here”
‘Dupree’s Paradise’ - “YCDTOA Vol. 2”, “Make a Jazz Noise Here”


Applied Gizmology: Synclavier
“Musicians tend to be lazy, they get sick & skip rehearsals”

‘G-Spot Tornado’ - “Jazz From Hell” – This is one piece that FZ thought couldn’t be played by humans. He was proven wrong when the Ensemble Moderne played it & got a 2 minute standing ovation. It’s also Germaine Greer’s favourite piece of music!!
‘While You Were Art II’ - “Jazz From Hell”
‘Night School’ - “Jazz From Hell”


Bashing and Scraping Stuff: Percussion
“Timpanists? Forget it – they regard themselves as ‘special’ because their instruments have musical pitches………only the timpanist can play timpani”

‘The Black Page’ – “In New York”, “YCDTOA Vol 4 & 5”, Make A Jazz Noise Here” – the track gets it’s name because there are so many notes on the score.
‘Inca Roads’ - “One Size Fits All” – Actually the entire album – Ruth Underwood is the musician whose playing brings this album to life. (……..she was the daughter of a wealthy Florentine Pogen, Read ‘em & weep was her adjustable slogan…… (!!))
‘The Grand Wazoo’ – “The Grand Wazoo” – Aynsley Dunbar does things to drum kit you wouldn’t believe.


Great Riffs and Twiddly bits: The Guitar.
“All I want to do is go on autopilot, wiggle my fingers and listen to what comes out”

‘Watermelon In Easter Hay’ – “Joe’s Garage Vols. 2&3”, “Guitar”, “Frank Zappa Plays The Music of Frank Zappa”
‘Five, Five, Five’ – “Shut Up & Play Your Guitar Some More”
‘Burnt Weeny Sandwich’ – “Burnt Weeny Sandwich” – The guitar solo here shows that subtelty can be as powerful as volume
‘Carnasie’ - “Shut Up & Play Your Guitar Some More”
‘Ship Ahoy’ - “Shut Up & Play Your Guitar Some More”, “Frank Zappa Plays The Music of Frank Zappa”
‘St. Etienne’ – “Jazz From Hell”


Intercontinental Absudities: Just Plain Silly
“I never set out to be weird. It was always other people who called me weird”.

‘The Illinois Enema Bandit’ – “In New York” (based on a true story involving someone who was arrested because he administered enemas during ‘romantic interludes’ on unsuspecting female students – apparently there was no law against it, so the judge threw it out of court!). Great blues track but definitely not of the ‘….well I woke up this mornin’ school’.
‘Montana’ - “Overnite Sensation”, “YCDTOA Vols 2 & 4”, (discusses moving to Montana in order to become a dental floss farmer).
‘Billy The Mountain’ – “Just Another Band From L.A.” A sort of rock opera performed live on stage – …..Billy was a mountain, Ethel (his wife) was a tree growing off his shoulder, his mouth was a cave & he coughed up rocks while on vacation with the National Guard in pursuit.
‘Greggary Peccary’ – “Studio Tan” – another rock opera type piece about a ‘nocturnal wild swine’ who earns a living as a ‘trend-monger’.

So there you go: 58 songs, and 108 odd tracks. A little gift from me (…..and Frank)! What are you waiting for? - get yourself down your local record emporium, downloading, or or even just your local music library.

By the way, about those things that are named after him:

There’s a gene called ZapA which is found within a protein of a bacterial strain (called Proteus mirabilis) which is named after Frank. Pretty fitting when you connect the two facts that the bacteria is responsible for an exotic infection of the urinary tract and that Frankieboy recorded a track called ‘Why Does It Hurt When I Pee’ (I got it from the toilet seat – it jumped right up & grabbed my meat! - see above)

A fish found in Papua New Guinea is called Zappa confluentus after our man Frankie.

There’s a jellyfish called Phialella zappai.

An extinct mollusc (only found in fossil form) is called Amaurotoma zappa.

Now then, would you believe that the spider called Pachygnatha zappa actually looks like Zappa? The female has markings that look like the furry face furniture of Frank!

Finally, in 1994, the planet discovered in 1980 by an astronomer called Brozek was named Zappafrank. (Actually, there’s also an asteroid called Zappa but that’s named after an Italian astronomer Giovanni Zappa, who died in 1923). After you hear all of this business about names it’s a bit ironic that until he was in his 20’s Zappa had always though his name was Francis, only to discover that he was actually christened as Frank!

Beechwoods
20-03-2009, 21:38
Wow. Excellent intro, Chris, and I like the way you've split the recommendations by genre. I think this will help folks unfamiliar with his stuff ease themselves in via something comfortable...

For me, I discovered Zappa via a wonderful DVD a friend gave me, which I later found out comprised Beat Club, 6 oct 1968 and ORTF Studios Paris, 10 oct 1968. Frank and the Mothers in their 'free jazz' / most like Soft Machine period. :) 'King Kong' and 'Uncle Meat' completely wigged out live versions...

The Soft Machine similarity is amazing. Zappa sounded like the Softs would two or three years later after Elton Dean joined them.

I also have an amazing (audio only) recording from The Move's Colour Me Pop BBC 2 TV show, October 1968, where they're in full jazz form, with a great and hilarious pastiche of 'English' trad-jazz thrown in for good measure.

I have a few of his albums but fear getting sucked into the full back catalogue so your distillations may help me delve a little deeper without losing my footing!

Thank you.

Beechwoods
20-03-2009, 21:51
Oh, and I should say that Lowell George from the Mothers wrote one of my all time fave songs Willin' as covered by everyone who's anyone in late night Country Rock. Genius.

The Grand Wazoo
20-03-2009, 22:00
Mine too!
I've always wanted to drive from Tehachapi to Tonapah - just so I could say I did!

I have actually been to Tonapah - didn't have time to get to the other place though!

Spectral Morn
20-03-2009, 22:04
Hi Chris


What an amazing introduction to Frank's music. I must be honest and say I struggle with some of his music, on many levels. However I have Apostrophe and Overnight sensation. One of my fave tracks is Stink Foot. I love Shut up and play your guitar. Tommy Vance used to play Zappa quite a lot, and City of tiny Lights was a constant on the best rock list that The Old Grey Whistle Test put together each year. So it was via those sources that I heard Dancing Fool, Valley Girl and many others. I miss the old days of music radio and TV.

You write really well too....I may ask you to write something for SOG.



Regards D S D L----Neil :)

John
20-03-2009, 22:41
Chris a big thank you for this great write up about Frank, you convey his unqiue spirit really well and bring home how diverse his music is. I am sure a lot of people will get a lot out from reading this and may even inspire people to check out more of his material.
For myself I am always in a battle around genres at one level they are a handy guide at another they can limit true creativity, but these days see it as necesary evil! for most people and great for the marketing men!!!

The Grand Wazoo
21-03-2009, 00:35
Wow. Excellent intro, Chris, and I like the way you've split the recommendations by genre. I think this will help folks unfamiliar with his stuff ease themselves in via something comfortable...

Thank you.

Thanks Beechy, I actually really enjoyed writing this. However, it was really frustrating, as I wrote it during the week when I was working away from home & my music collection. All week, I've been dying to hear this, that & the other & not being able to has been a killer! It really tested my memory too! Regarding the memory though, I'm feeling a little smug because the only thing I felt the need to check out when I got home tonight (apart from the quotes) was whether or not Blonde on Blonde was released before, or after Freak Out! (I was right - it was after)


..........I have a few of his albums but fear getting sucked into the full back catalogue so your distillations may help me delve a little deeper without losing my footing!

Quoting Lowell George (him again):

"It's so easy to slip
It's so easy to fall.........
.......All the people that you can't recall
Do they really exist at all"

You know you want to......there're plenty of mint copies of Uncle Meat on vinyl out there at bargain prices.............ahem..........no perhaps you're right!
(My copy of Uncle Meat remained the most expensive album I ever bought for about 10 years - I paid £12 for it way back when)

The Grand Wazoo
21-03-2009, 00:47
Hi Chris


What an amazing introduction to Frank's music. I must be honest and say I struggle with some of his music, on many levels. However I have Apostrophe and Overnight sensation. One of my face tracks is Stink Foot. I love Shut up and play your guitar. Tommy Vance used to play Zappa quite a lot, and City of tiny Lights was a constant on the best rock list that The Old Grey Whistle Test put together each year. So it was via those sources that I heard Dancing Fool, Valley Girl and many others. I miss the old days of music radio and TV.

You write really well too....I may ask you to write something for SOG.



Regards D S D L----Neil :)


Thanks Neil,
Yup, I've alway had a soft spot for Apostophe - it was one of the first albums I ever really listened to properly all the way through. Some of the guitar and percussion playing is astounding. Overnight sensation is great. I took my family on holiday to Montana a few years back & my daughter spent the whole time looking out for the 'dennal floss' farms!

We've got Janet Street Porter to thank for getting rid of proper music programmes on the TV

The Grand Wazoo
21-03-2009, 00:49
Chris a big thank you for this great write up about Frank, you convey his unqiue spirit really well and bring home how diverse his music is. I am sure a lot of people will get a lot out from reading this and may even inspire people to check out more of his material.
For myself I am always in a battle around genres at one level they are a handy guide at another they can limit true creativity, but these days see it as necesary evil! for most people and great for the marketing men!!!

No worries John, it was a pleasure.............more to follow

Beechwoods
21-03-2009, 06:06
I've always wanted to drive from Tehachapi to Tonapah - just so I could say I did!

:lol: That's the kind of thing I'd like to do! Ronstadt did my favourite version(s) followed by Gene Parsons from The Byrds. I may have to write a personal selection of covers that were better than the original, at some point, and Ronstadt's Willin' would be top of the list :)

snapper
21-03-2009, 11:17
Excellent read,Chris.Very informative.

It may be worth pointing out that many of Franks albums on CD are very different to the original vinyl releases,Hot Rats being a prime example.

Look forward to the next installment.

:smoking:

The Grand Wazoo
26-03-2009, 09:40
Hi Chris


What an amazing introduction to Frank's music. I must be honest and say I struggle with some of his music, on many levels.



Hi Neil,
Would you care to elucidate on your personal struggle?

Spectral Morn
26-03-2009, 10:01
Errrrrrrrr....UMMMM......NO;)



Regards D S D L

Jason P
26-03-2009, 19:42
Brilliant Chris! I'll have to go and revisit my Zappa collection. I got into him at college, kind of an extension of my love of the Bonzos/Bob Kerr - i think there's a link with Zappa's anarchic musical invention. Even though some blanch at the (some would say peurile) content of some of his oeuvre (always wanted to use that word) get past that and the genius of his music - the sheer invention - is astounding. There's a track on one album - 'You Are What You Is' I think - that's a mix of 2 utterly separate tracks recorded separately, at differing tempos - but he stuck em together and the result sounds like a subtle interplay twixt 2 jazz musicians... wonderfully subversive!

His perfection in recording is legendary too - some of the live albums are the best live recordings I've heard, on vinyl.

Off to the collection!

Jason

Beechwoods
26-03-2009, 19:59
You Are What You Is is on one of the 'Cheep Thrills' comps, which I've got... fantastic track, I have to agree!

The Grand Wazoo
05-04-2009, 11:01
If you can excuse the shameless double-posting:



If you like Frank Zappa, or want to try out some of his music without buying anything:

http://www.zappa.com/zapparadio/index.html#

Non-stop Mothers/Zappa!!!!!


..........enjoy, Love & Kisses,
WAZ.

Barry
05-04-2009, 23:13
Wow - what an excellent piece of writing. You have certainly set the bar very high for subsequent authors!

I think I first heard 'Freak Out' in 1968. Didn't understand it, wasn't sure if I liked it, but did find it interesting and thought I would give it another go later. It was certainly ahead of its time (by about at least thirty years). Fourty years on, I listened to it again, still don't understand it, still not sure if I like it and it's still thirty years ahead of its time.

Between these two occasions, I did acquire some of his work, starting with the accessable 'Hot Rats' and then worked backwards to 'Only in it for the Money', 'Burnt Weeny Sandwich' and 'Uncle Meat', and forward to ' Chunga's Revenge', 'Wakka Jawakka' and 'Live at the Filmore East 1971', where my interest stopped.

Zappa was so prolific that I could not keep up with much of the later stuff and wasn't sure if I liked his 'vaudaville' period.

I saw him at the Wembly Arena in London in the early eighties.

Your posting has made put on some Zappa, and I have been listening to 'The Grand Wazoo' and now 'Yellow Shark' whilst I write this. Based on your obvious enthusiam and appreciation of Zappa, I am encouraged to re-listen to some of the titles that I had previously dismissed. If you have done that, then it is a job well done.

Again, well done on what appears to a true labour of love.

With appreciation
Barry

The Grand Wazoo
06-04-2009, 11:59
Barry,


Your posting has made put on some Zappa, and I have been listening to 'The Grand Wazoo' and now 'Yellow Shark' whilst I write this. Based on your obvious enthusiam and appreciation of Zappa, I am encouraged to re-listen to some of the titles that I had previously dismissed.

I've got a big grin on my face. Job done, it seems!

I thought that if I could get someone to listen to something that they'd not ordinarily listen to, then the piece would be a success.

If I could get someone to listen to something completely new to them, then I would be over the moon.

Great!

I don't want to convert anyone, but I think our lives can be enriched even by something we may not like. I love your comments on Freak Out & I bet you don't regret giving it a couple of listens - even if you don't go about you daily business while whistling the melody from 'Return of the Son of Monster Magnet' to your merry self!

To see Zappa perform was to experience just how tight a band can be - always a truly great experience.

I posted words to this effect earlier, but they seem to have gone astray.

PS - I'm currently working on another music related piece, but keep getting distracted by other (far less fulfilling) pursuits.

John
06-04-2009, 15:23
Chris
I think giving people the gift of new music is one of the best gifts you can give anyone
Its more sharing passion and the hope of getting into something that brings a smile, touches us, makes us dance etc
Yet again thanks for sharing something you love and agree Zappa band was so tight Steve Vai has a great story about his first audtion with Zappa
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6cplMM3d_Q

Beechwoods
06-04-2009, 20:19
Fantastic early Frank.

Colour Me Pop from 1968:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p6yUvQBXSY

And Forum Musiques, also from 1968
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ7IFdbwnGw

Amazing stuff. Any Soft Machine / Egg fans who've never heard any Zappa should definitely check these out.

The Grand Wazoo
19-04-2009, 23:52
Unashamed endorsement of Hagstrom guitars...............

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/7230/imgp1618o.jpg

Currently being endorsed by Dweezil, another member of the Zappa family!!

John
30-05-2009, 18:28
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00l67ql/Classic_Rock_Sequence_29_05_2009/
Zappa Documentary

Beechwoods
30-05-2009, 18:30
Thanks John!

Joe
30-05-2009, 18:44
I have the first few Zappa/Mothers LPs; Freak Out; Absolutely Free; Only In It For The Money; Rueben & The Jets, plus Just Another Band From LA and Apostrophe. I never cottoned on to the more 'jazzy' stuff. I was probably put off by Lou Reed's comment: 'Jazz-rock. If you can't do good rock, and you can't do good jazz, why not put them together and make one big piece of shit?'

Oh, and 'Willing' is one of my fave Lowell George songs, too; the other being 'Roll Um Easy'

The Grand Wazoo
23-01-2010, 20:18
I listened to FZ In New York this afternoon & then felt driven to try to decide which version of one of my favourite Zappa tracks - 'Sofa' was the definitive one.

I spent a while listening to the several versions I have & then spent even longer on the W's.
I can't really decide, but I loved this one (new to me) by the Austrian Music Project:

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Beechwoods
23-01-2010, 20:43
I've had this as an audio recording for some time. But not seen the video, until tonight :eyebrows: zip to 1'20" for some traditional English jazz!

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Things kick off properly around 2 minutes in... it's King Kong off the BBC's Colour Me Pop from 1968. Great YouTube quality too!

The Grand Wazoo
23-01-2010, 21:07
Nice! You're right the picture quality's great!

Gazjam
04-02-2010, 20:36
Gawd!
I recently got into Frank by a mate playing Lumpy Gravy of a particularly drunken Evening...

That YouTube clip I saw on the Beeb when I was a kid - all I could recall from it was my misquoting Frank saying "Some people like the sound of traditional Jazz"..

that memory stuck with my for 20odd years!
When I got into Frank recently that (mis)quote came back as my only memory of Frank Zappa.

Seeing that Youtube clip made my synapses click!

wow

Stratmangler
04-02-2010, 20:53
I'm rather partial to the Concert Impromptu's take on Sofa - there is a whole album of Zappa's work by them on Spotify,

Chris:)

The Grand Wazoo
05-02-2010, 20:54
I'm rather partial to the Concert Impromptu's take on Sofa - there is a whole album of Zappa's work by them on Spotify,

Chris:)

Yup, That's quite an entertaining album.
I liked the tracks by Panzerballet:
Zappa Medley From Hell - Pts. I & II

http://open.spotify.com/track/6dFeRAA903vOHZRA43MGjN
http://open.spotify.com/track/3pgWebNhYAeCLH6HVaevHK

DSJR
05-02-2010, 21:09
I dare not got too deeply into this man's music, but I do have Overnite Sensation and one of the Joes Garage Lp's (pt 1?).

One of my work colleagues was a humungous Zappa fan. The music he played me was so vast in styles and musicianship :respect:

I saw the "Grandmothers" live some years ago and it was a superb gig in an intimate venue (The [old] Stables in Wavendon, MK).

The Grand Wazoo
06-02-2010, 11:43
I spent part of the evening yesterday listening to some different versions of 'Blessed Relief' (From Grand Wazoo) I quite like this one.

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Great video too!

John
07-02-2010, 12:17
I spent part of the evening yesterday listening to some different versions of 'Blessed Relief' (From Gand Wazoo) I quite like this one.

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Great video too!

Wow thats some really cool jazz It could almost belong to Miles Davis A Kind of Blue Thank you for sharing this Chris

The Grand Wazoo
07-02-2010, 12:44
John,
The original version on 'The Grand Wazoo' has a fantastic horn solo by Sal Marquez. I can't find anywhere that I can link to so you can hear it though.
I think it has been compared by others to 'So What' on Kind of Blue!

John
07-02-2010, 13:03
i must get the album

The Grand Wazoo
04-09-2010, 00:53
Lots of folks know 'Smoke on the Water' by Deep Purple. Lots of folks know it's about a fire in Montreux and that Frank Zappa & the Mothers are referred to.

Here's some video that gives you a few more clues as to what it was like on that night when someone at a rock gig at the Casino Barrière de Montreux fired an incendiary device off which lodged up in the ceiling which was covered in fabric. There were between 2,000 & 3,000 people attending the (over-capacity) gig and more fans were at the doors still trying to get in. The doors were chained up to stop them getting in.

YouTube video (actually sound & stills) of the moment it all kicks off. In an interview, Ritchie Blackmore, who was in attendance along with the other members of Deep Purple said that FZ anounced the fire then leapt out the window. This is not the story that this audio tells (the sound is from a well known bootleg - 'Swiss Cheese / Fire').

The YouTube clip shows Claude Nobs, a music promoter, who ran into the Casino several times to save some members of the audience who had decided to stay in the building in places that they thought would shelter them.
From the Deep Purple song: 'Funky Claude was running in & out, pulling kids out the ground'

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Video of the start of the fire:
http://montreuxmusic.com/mmm/en_video01.html

What was left the next day:
http://montreuxmusic.com/mmm/en_video02.html

The Grand Wazoo
26-01-2013, 23:40
I've just been watching a gig from the 1988 tour on You Tube. Two and a bit hours of a show from Barcelona - good quality video. Gives you a real flavour of what it was like to see Frank in the later years. This band was regarded by many as being one of, if not the best, incarnation of Zappa's bands. The horn section are recorded rather badly, which is a real shame as they were really tight on that tour. Excellent version of 'Sofa' at about 56 minutes.

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Stratmangler
24-07-2013, 23:05
Excellent read,Chris.Very informative.

It may be worth pointing out that many of Franks albums on CD are very different to the original vinyl releases,Hot Rats being a prime example.

Look forward to the next installment.

:smoking:

Thankfully The Zappa Family Trust now have total control of the original masters of Frank's recorded works, and these have been released on CD.
2012 was a very good year ;)

I have the vinyl reissue of Overnite Sensation, and it is a phenomenal pressing.
I look forward to getting "Hot Rats", and "The Grand Wazoo" on vinyl again too :D