Post your Idler pictures here

[Rare Bird]

Here's one i started before disaster struck, the motor needs repair/replacing so im stuck at the moment till i find a donor..However this is a mid 60's Philips 'GA230' Idler/Belt unit..

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w425/ELPFAN1968/Philips001.jpg

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w425/ELPFAN1968/Philips002.jpg

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w425/ELPFAN1968/Philips003.jpg

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w425/ELPFAN1968/Philips004.jpg

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w425/ELPFAN1968/Philipsad-1.jpg

[Thermionic Idler]

Some of you will probably have seen it in the Gallery but here it is again.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8204/8236617992_ee011cbdd9_b.jpg

[Thermionic Idler]

Here's one i started before disaster struck, the motor needs repair/replacing so im stuck at the moment till i find a donar..However this is a mid 60's Philips 'GA2230' Idler/Belt unit..

Love that! I always enjoy seeing "left field" units, that looks like it ought to be worth getting going if you can. It looks like something out of the set of Thunderbirds with those control knobs.

[Spur07]

Andre, that Philips is lovely. hope you find a new motor.

[Spur07]

Some of you will probably have seen it in the Gallery but here it is again.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8204/8236617992_ee011cbdd9_b.jpg

That's a lovely idler too Dave. :stalks:

[Roy S]

Already posted elsewhere a video of my GL78

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[Mika K]

Few old pics..

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2780/5856670523_5440323f4a_z.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3357/5845165930_3612063bf0_z.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7162/6432315485_07c32fee79_z.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8457/7945416508_7f19400f88_c.jpg

[Audio Al]

This is my entry :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/bigboobs/IMG_1729-1.jpg
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/bigboobs/IMG_1730-1.jpg
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/bigboobs/IMG_1731-1.jpg
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/bigboobs/IMG_1732-1.jpg
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/bigboobs/IMG_1733-1.jpg
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When was the last time you saw a round pin plug :)

Still on the " To Do list "

Hopefully the day will come soon ;)
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[Rare Bird]

propar plug pins Al :)

[Marco]

Exactly - from the days when plugs were made properly! Al, polish the pins to a fine shine, clean up the plug and find a matching round-pin socket, plug in the Lenco and enjoy, is my advice! :exactly:

Go on, polish the plug up and take some pics of it - we'd love that :)

Marco.

[Rare Bird]

Here's an pic to wet your gussett while your at it :eyebrows:

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w425/ELPFAN1968/Lencoadpic.jpg

[Audio Al]

Here's an Ad to wet your gussett while your at it :eyebrows:

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w425/ELPFAN1968/LencoAd.jpg

(I'll take a propar scan later on loike)..


Nice one :)

[chelsea]

http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd493/pilpil2/garr031.jpg

http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd493/pilpil2/garr037.jpg

[Barry]

What arm is that Stu?

[chelsea]

Fidelity research 54 barry.

[Barry]

Thanks. :)

[Slawts]

7825

Hope this worked. My bitched up runt of a GL72 with heavy platter mods.

Steve

[Marco]

Fidelity research 54 barry.

Great arm to stick a DL-103 on! :exactly:

Marco.

[chelsea]

Will see if i can borrow one to try sometime.

[Marco]

Try it, mate - I think you'd like it :)

Marco.

[DSJR]

Told you lot i'd lower the tone :twisted: but you did say idler drive :rofl:

Late Collaro from the early 70's (image from t'internet)

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q8/DSJR_photos/0_zpsfa72b925.jpg

Garrard RC88 from late 50's - Type A, A70 series, Lab 80 and descended AP/SL/Zero models all loosely evolved from this (and this has direct ancestors too) -

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q8/DSJR_photos/GarrardRC88_zps8a6fa131.jpg

My Garrard 60mk2/Stanton with 500V3 stylus -

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q8/DSJR_photos/a6ee3cf2.jpg

My AP76 now with extra cork mat and AT120E - sounds quite nice actually -

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q8/DSJR_photos/75d171d8.jpg

Collaro Conquest - pic from fleabay - I grew up listening to records of all speeds and sizes on one of these -

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q8/DSJR_photos/08923af1.jpg

My beloved lab 80mk2 - Thanks Beobloke :) -

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q8/DSJR_photos/cb214f2b.jpg

Balfour Princess - Wouldn't have taken much to drastically improve this one -

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q8/DSJR_photos/9aef1e9c.jpg

Another one from Beobloke -

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q8/DSJR_photos/e922e7c9.jpg

I'll save the Zero 100 saga until later :lol:

[Gromit]

My lovely old 401/SME...

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e320/Gromit011/IMG_5754.jpg

[oldius]

My lovely old 401/SME...

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e320/Gromit011/IMG_5754.jpg


That's beautiful. T'was always my dream deck.

[oldius]

http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/yy332/oldius/P1000619_zpse589768b.jpg

http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/yy332/oldius/P1000612_zps0f7b16df.jpg

http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/yy332/oldius/P1000610_zps6d80d5bf.jpg

[oldius]

May have a little get together at mine on the 21st December. Just a few tunes, nothing more, so if you're free for some idleness let me know.

[Wakefield Turntables]

Mmmmm some lovely stuff there

[BTH K10A]

A few little gems for your perusal including a few of mine

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/emttsd15/1211_8-1_zps319be2de.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/emttsd15/P1010129_zpsd06a85d2.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/emttsd15/P1010126_zpsd93d4caf.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/emttsd15/album_picphp-1_zps698a80f5.jpeg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/emttsd15/411alexander14_zpsbcceb49f.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/emttsd15/480alexander12_zps6cf7e762.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/emttsd15/gatestt_zps2f6cd07e.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/emttsd15/8ecb_1_zpse00fe2ad.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/emttsd15/EMT_copies_VEB_T_146-1-1.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/emttsd15/IMG_0902.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/emttsd15/103-0400_IMG-1.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/emttsd15/KGrHqFnkE8VNZy--0BPWHFo9r60_57.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/emttsd15/105-0503_IMG-2_zps628121af.jpg

[oldius]

Some great ones there. I love the big ol' commercial decks, particularly the first one and the gates. Thanks for posting.

[Wakefield Turntables]

Andy,

That has to be the single most amount of porn Ive viewed in a long time, I have now used up several toilet rolls :clap:

:cool:

[Wakefield Turntables]

ok, here is my restored 301. It still needs a little work but makes a nice noise.

[oldius]

Andrew

Very nice indeed. The old Garrards are gorgeous.

[Wakefield Turntables]

i thankyou very much :cool:

[Moko]

Here's a photo of my Garrard 401 in a DIY 2" thick slate plinth

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy154/MokoMilk/Garrard%20401/20121218_093118.jpg

Tonearm is another DIY job built from the remains of an Ortofon AS-212

[DiveDeepDog]

Some of us like 2 ;-)

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8083/8284454219_05fb4b7c3d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49381909@N08/8284454219/)[/url]


Or a pair of Nima's

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8058/8284498647_883d8ec0e1_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49381909@N08/8284454219/)
[url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/49381909@N08/8284498647/]

[Dominic Harper]

http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af30/hifimaster/nwa%20401%203012/DSC02664_zps5b70c259.jpg

401 in NWA prototype plinth, NWA custom 3012 and re built Koetsu long body

[Marco]

http://<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/49381909@N08/8284454219/" title="DSC_1327 by levs the diver, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8083/8284454219_05fb4b7c3d_b.jpg" width="641" height="1024" alt="DSC_1327"></a>Some of us like 2 ;-)

http://http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8083/8284454219_05fb4b7c3d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49381909@N08/8284454219/)
DSC_1327 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49381909@N08/8284454219/) by levs the diver (http://www.flickr.com/people/49381909@N08/), on Flickr

http://http://www.flickr.com/photos/49381909@N08/8284454219/



Tried to fix your links, Mark, but only managed to get two of them working. However, if you reactivate the missing images on your Flickr account, the other pictures above should show! :)

Marco.

[BTH K10A]

Found this on the net. Nicest G88 I've ever seen

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/emttsd15/IMG_2740_zps6cadcbd6.jpg

[oldius]

That's definitely the nicest GL88 that I have seen, absolutely gorgeous!

[Rare Bird]

aye seen that before loverly.. Looks like it's made to the original G88 plinth plans.

[Dardemm]

Hello all,

The motor drive comes from Matthew Taylor at Audio Grail and the plinth is from Russ Collinson at Layers of Beauty.

Cheers,

David

[Rare Bird]

Nice Dave

[daytona600]

not mine - 401 in oma slate plinth with 12inch schick

OMA video - this stuff makes kondo pricing seem like Lidl
" fuck yeah "

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=X1AEaIM59AQ

[Marco]

Unfortunately, Scott, aesthetically, that does nothing for me. One of the things I love about the 301 motor unit, is how 'dinky' and neat it looks, so why put it in a plinth much bigger than is necessary, thus making it look bulky, rather than dinky! :doh:

Yes I know that it's got a 12" arm fitted, but the plinth still doesn't need to be as big as that. I hate all those gaps and the wasted space! For me, this is much nicer, featuring a different T/T (TD124), but with a motor unit with a simliar sized 'footprint' as a 301:


http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/5216/33623135916936d1f1a9o.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/580/33623135916936d1f1a9o.jpg/)

No ugly gaps! Looks superb. The motor unit uses up the entire surface area of the plinth, which is how it should be done with a bespoke product! :exactly:


Marco.

[The Black Adder]

Oh aye!... +1 for that... The TD124 (for me) looks best in the original style Ortofon plinth too.. That is black with black arm board.

That's a really good pic of Tony's deck.

Looks like my tone arm is going to get the Origami treatment too!

[DiveDeepDog]

Steve, can't see you pics?

My new toy:-)

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8102/8545504974_010b0ddb28_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49381909@N08/8545504974/)
image (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49381909@N08/8545504974/) by levs the diver (http://www.flickr.com/people/49381909@N08/), on Flick

First impressions are really good, it's certainly a step up from the Nima.
Is it a Jelco build ??

Fresh build plinth too ( already on the bay) the corian arm board is supported on rods connected to the lower deck. I've tested with my stethoscope, and at the base of the arm it's quieter than my usual heavy ply plinths.
It works so well, I've got to transfer the idea.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8529/8545505030_c10d90b500_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49381909@N08/8545505030/)
image (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49381909@N08/8545505030/) by levs the diver (http://www.flickr.com/people/49381909@N08/), on Flickr

[SteveO]

Looks great Mark, nice work! as always.

But when are we going to see your black 401 built up?

Yes i did something dumb and messed up the link codes:mental: Maybe admin could delete the post?

ok i will try again.

PTP Lenco on slate, with Ebony 12inch arm and Midas 103
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w80/velvetsunrise/Number01_zpscd2569a6.jpg

Lenco B51, heavy platter conversion, slate plinth with minimul cutouts, and a 12inch arm. Or poor mans 301.
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w80/velvetsunrise/B51_zps9d238712.jpg

Well its BIG, fugly, bling, and very very heavy. PTP Lenco, slate plinth 2 x 12inch arms, with acrylic upper platter, and screw down clamp. Door stopper feet are tempory. (yes i like slate)
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w80/velvetsunrise/Picture007-8_zps83e4906b.jpg

[Marco]

Fantastic stuff, Steve! :respect:

Which one is your favourite, sonically? :)

Marco.

[DSJR]

+1

Regarding earlier photos, I was a bit concerned about the HiCap next the the 32.5? preamp, since low level hum induction happens this way with the two next to each other I remember. Separating the two really did open up the midrange.

Apologies for going Aspergically off-track yet again, but with vinyl sources, this used to be important where Naim was concerned :)

[SteveO]

Hello Marco, thanks

Hmm thats a difficult one. The first photo was my first bash at a slate plinth, and really first proper Lenco. Plinth is only 25mm thick pool table slate. But its deathly silent and the PTP top plate does wonders for the sound quality, much increased refinement over a standard top plate.

The B51 has a filler plate made from 8mm thick tufnol to fill all the top plate voids to mimic a PTP, and the 35mm thick plinth basicly only has cutouts for motor and on off switch, so not too disimilar from the PTP other than the filler plate, but i would say the PTP has the edge sonically out of these two. But its close.

The bottom PTP is a bit of a monster really. Plinth is big to accomodate two 12inch arms and also 2inch thick, takes two people to lift it! Unlike the Garrad slate plinths this is basicaly all solid apart from the smallish motor cutout.
Just added the Gyro platter and clamp for a different flavour, and likeing the sound it produces a LOT! through my DM2as

Is it better sonically than my first PTP? well, due to its size and weight, its in a different system, housed in the basement, so i have never actually directly compared the two, If anyone would like to come over and help me get it up the stairs they would be most welcome!

Despite playing around with a 401 a little (Thanks Mark) I must say i am the happyest i have ever been with either one of my two system.

But i am getting itchy fingers to build another deck, just for the fun of it!

[SteveO]

Hi Dave,

Its actually a dual rail snaps with Avondale TPR2s, but of course your absolutley right on all counts, Perhaps i will try moving it to thew bottom shelf

Surprisingly i dont actually get any humm pickup despite the close proximity to the 32.5.

I do worry a little about it being housed on the same stand as the deck, physical vibration from the transformer etc. But having said that i am very happy with the sounds i am getting at the moment.

And domestic harmony does force a few compromises

The 32.5 has 729 cards fitted, i am also useing a dual rail nac12s with bolt down TPRd snaps as outboard phono stage for the B51.

Speakers are Meridian M2s.

I must say the pairing of M2s and Naim preamp is i find, a match made in heaven! I have a discrete version of Meridians own 101 pre, which i really liked, untill i tried the Naim pre that is.

The Naim preamp really brought the M2s to life.

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w80/velvetsunrise/Group_zps5afe8cf2.jpg

[Thermionic Idler]

I know it appears in my avatar and it's also been on another thread about the PU7 but for the record...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8252/8539463390_6f94568f48_b.jpg

[chelsea]

Some beautiful decks here.
Is that 301 running with a standard bearing?

[Thermionic Idler]

Some beautiful decks here.
Is that 301 running with a standard bearing?

No, it's got a new grease bearing from Precision Audio Components, this was needed because the solid brass platter is a lot heavier than the standard cast aluminium one - it's something like 10kg in mass.

As you'd expect the 301 motor has no issues driving it :D

[chelsea]

Thanks.
That is a proper lump for a platter.

[Marco]

Ihttp://farm9.staticflickr.com/8252/8539463390_6f94568f48_b.jpg

Nice, Dave - if a little blingy! ;)

You must like the gold look... I'd be happier if the gold bits were chrome. However, it's a stonking deck :)

Marco.

[Thing Fish]

Beautiful deck Dave. I'd be scared to use it for all the polishing needed...:lol:

[Rare Bird]

Nice, Dave - if a little blingy! ;)

You must like the gold look... I'd be happier if the gold bits were chrome. However, it's a stonking deck :)



+1 i detest Gold

[DSJR]

Updates the concept of the 301 doesn't it though, although it's obviously not as originally made :)

[Thermionic Idler]

Nice, Dave - if a little blingy! ;)

You must like the gold look... I'd be happier if the gold bits were chrome. However, it's a stonking deck :)

Marco.

Thanks Marco... haha I do like black and gold I must admit, though I like to think I've managed to restrict the bling to some degree... on the arm as you can see I only had the armtube and counterbalance plated, I didn't want the lot done.

There are versions of the 301 rebuilt by Ray Clark which are on a polished brass baseplate... like this one, now this IS bling (I think this is the actual one I auditioned when I was upgrading the plinth):

http://www.peakhifi.co.uk/db_images/SMDAcousticsTypeII3084.jpg

[Alex_UK]

Personally, I think it is gorgeous and not blingy at all - but then I am infamous for my love of lilac curtains! :lol:

[WOStantonCS100]

Your deck is on par with the LTD Gold 1200 Edition.

I kind of like the slight "bling" presentation because it generally halts visitors from touching it. They may reach for it; but, that little small voice saying, "If you break it, you bought it, and might not be able to afford it" causes automatic arm retraction. Great protective measure. :lol:

[DiveDeepDog]

My first foray into idlers, resurrected for a new home.
Lenco L78, with all the unnecessary removed, everything else covered in sound deadening material.

These thing really do run a Garrard close, looking for another one to cut up and make discrete:)

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8119/8661172558_72e1e32223_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49381909@N08/8661172558/)
DSC_2198 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49381909@N08/8661172558/) by levs the diver (http://www.flickr.com/people/49381909@N08/), on Flickr

[SteveO]

Nice work Mark. Like it:eyebrows:

[Thing Fish]

Nice one Mark. It's nice to see another Lenco appreciated...:)

[Spur07]

Nice one Mark. It's nice to see another Lenco appreciated...:)

+1

Nice work Mike.

[DiveDeepDog]

I feel really bad, this was my first venture into plinths.

Its been put back together and fettled for an old friend Kev (theroving1)

but don't worry, 1 out 2 in ;-)
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8113/8658482500_b91bcd2884_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49381909@N08/8658482500/)
DSC_2185 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49381909@N08/8658482500/) by levs the diver (http://www.flickr.com/people/49381909@N08/), on Flickr
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8243/8664590106_770815a1e8_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49381909@N08/8664590106/)
DSC_2205 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49381909@N08/8664590106/) by levs the diver (http://www.flickr.com/people/49381909@N08/), on Flickr


The Mission's a 775SM, £500 in 1983:stalks: I remember visiting my local hi-fi store and drooling over the beige one, but as a poor teenager never enough cash.

The engineering is fabulous, the arm is fixed in an adjustable collet that will accept 12-28mm arm tubes. All on a cam to alter pivot to spindle 208-230.
A bodges dream :eek:

[Rare Bird]

Since when has a Mission '775' been an idler TT :lol:

[337alant]

:wow: there are some awesome decks on here ;):eyebrows::smoking:

Alan

[DiveDeepDog]

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3691/9399956314_125296829b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49381909@N08/9399956314/)
DSC_2770 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49381909@N08/9399956314/) by levs the diver (http://www.flickr.com/people/49381909@N08/), on Flickr

I couldn't resist the ol' girl

Pre polish, arty B+W

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3824/9348553059_3604b72f8d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49381909@N08/9348553059/)
DSC_2756 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49381909@N08/9348553059/) by levs the diver (http://www.flickr.com/people/49381909@N08/), on Flickr

[loo]

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3691/9399956314_125296829b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49381909@N08/9399956314/)
DSC_2770 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49381909@N08/9399956314/) by levs the diver (http://www.flickr.com/people/49381909@N08/), on Flickr

I couldn't resist the ol' girl

Pre polish, arty B+W

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3824/9348553059_3604b72f8d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49381909@N08/9348553059/)
DSC_2756 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/49381909@N08/9348553059/) by levs the diver (http://www.flickr.com/people/49381909@N08/), on Flickr

Plywood pornography :drool:

[petrat]

One is lovely ... two is just greedy :)

[sonddek]

I've posted these before, but I may as well join in the fun for the benefit of those who haven't seen them on other threads:


http://cyberphotographer.com/garrards/deck2complete/plinth2deck1/1.jpg

http://cyberphotographer.com/garrards/deck2complete/plinth2deck1/2.jpg

http://cyberphotographer.com/garrards/deck2complete/plinth2deck1/3.jpg



http://cyberphotographer.com/garrards/deck1complete/1.JPG

http://cyberphotographer.com/garrards/deck1complete/4.JPG

http://cyberphotographer.com/garrards/deck1complete/6.JPG

http://cyberphotographer.com/garrards/deck1complete/7.JPG

http://cyberphotographer.com/garrards/deck1complete/8.JPG

http://cyberphotographer.com/garrards/deck1complete/9.JPG

[Audio Al]

Very nice
The RED one is a bold choice :D

[Beobloke]

One is lovely ... two is just greedy :)

I hate to think what three is, then... :o

[Marco]

Very nice
The RED one is a bold choice...

'Tis bubblegum pink, darling... You should know that, as it matches most of your frocks! :D

Marco.

[Marco]

I hate to think what three is, then... :o

Almost salacious?

Marco.

[The Barbarian]

Nice {Apart from the paint finish quality in which i think i'm the only one that notices or cares about these things}

:sofa:

[337alant]

Lovely job Sondek :stalks::eyebrows:

Alan

[sonddek]

Nice {Apart from the paint finish quality in which i think i'm the only one that notices or cares about these things}

Thanks! The finish on the plinths is a work in progress. They've both had tens of coats of oil paint, but it takes months to dry fully, so they'll be getting a few more coats soon. Ultimately I hope to get them to a piano-like finish.

If you're complaining about the orange peel effect on the Garrard top plate itself, that's the original finish, and I intend to leave it original, out of respect.

[sonddek]

Here are a couple of shots of the red being constructed:


http://cyberphotographer.com/garrards/deck2incomplete/plinth2/unpainted/8.jpg

http://cyberphotographer.com/garrards/deck2incomplete/plinth2/unpainted/6.jpg

[sonddek]

'Tis bubblegum pink, darling... You should know that, as it matches most of your frocks! :D

I've reprocessed those files to try to get the colour a bit more accurate. You'll need to delete your browser cache to see the updated files. The true colour is pillar-box red.

[petrat]

Nothing too fancy ...

http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff384/petrat56/PetratHiFi%202013/PetratHiFi002_zps8c01daea.jpg (http://s1233.photobucket.com/user/petrat56/media/PetratHiFi%202013/PetratHiFi002_zps8c01daea.jpg.html)

[Barry]

Nothing too fancy ...

http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff384/petrat56/PetratHiFi%202013/PetratHiFi002_zps8c01daea.jpg (http://s1233.photobucket.com/user/petrat56/media/PetratHiFi%202013/PetratHiFi002_zps8c01daea.jpg.html)

Nice, very nice! What is the arm and cartridge Peter?

[petrat]

Nice, very nice! What is the arm and cartridge Peter?

Thanks Barry. It's an Audio Note Arm1 and a Koetsu Black Goldline, which seem to work nicely together IMO.

[The Barbarian]

Looks like a silver version of the old Helius 'Scorpio Mk.III' it's obviuosly not tho..

[Marco]

Nothing too fancy, Peter, but beautifully elegant and well executed - just my sort of thing! :)

I also highly rate the Arm 1, and used to own a Black Goldline. It should be a really nice combo, so enjoy :cool:

Marco.

[Ammonite Audio]

Looks like a silver version of the old Helius 'Scorpio Mk.III' it's obviuosly tho..

Maybe inspired by Helius designs, but actually completely different in execution; and rather simpler, courtesy of modern CNC manufacturing.

[337alant]

My Garrard 401

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7324/9302181084_5be3f6fbf0_o.jpg


My leak Delta

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7424/9018191078_c72d390625_o.jpg


Alan

[A.Grail]

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f298/furylovelolly/IMG_5742.jpg (http://s49.photobucket.com/user/furylovelolly/media/IMG_5742.jpg.html)

[chelsea]

http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd493/pilpil2/ggggar002.jpg

[DiveDeepDog]

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2897/14404183787_f09baa1a87_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nWRd1k)DSC_3209 (https://flic.kr/p/nWRd1k) by levs the diver (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

[A.Grail]

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f298/furylovelolly/301s-1.jpg (http://s49.photobucket.com/user/furylovelolly/media/301s-1.jpg.html)

[Wakefield Turntables]

Where did the much larger platter on the right 301 come from? Shindo?

[petrat]

Oh Lordy Lordy :eek: ... some beautiful turntables in this thread! I'd be proud to own any of them.

Stu, how are you getting on with that amazing arm?

[A.Grail]

Where did the much larger platter on the right 301 come from? Shindo?

Yes it's a Shindo platter and bearing on the 301 on the right. The 301 on the left is a BBC DRD5

[Barry]

Obviously a fan of 12" arms. :)

[Wakefield Turntables]

Yes it's a Shindo platter and bearing on the 301 on the right. The 301 on the left is a BBC DRD5

pity the platter and bearing couldn't be purchased seperately:( Or can they, fancy splitting 'em?

[A.Grail]

pity the platter and bearing couldn't be purchased seperately:( Or can they, fancy splitting 'em?

Your right Shindo no longer sells component parts. Sorry to say I have no plans to sell.

[Wakefield Turntables]

Worth a try!

[petrat]

Sorry to say I have no plans to sell.
Those are a significant part of your pension plan, I should think? :D

[chelsea]

Oh Lordy Lordy :eek: ... some beautiful turntables in this thread! I'd be proud to own any of them.

Stu, how are you getting on with that amazing arm?

Hi peter,
only had a quick go with it as i'm away working.
Takes a bit of getting used to as only the small part with the headshell pivots.
Really like it though.
Nicely over engineered.

I do like the way that if you fancied and had 2 decks to test you can just lift it off and plonk it on another deck as it weighs 1.2kg and doesn't have to be fixed.
Will get a sexy arm board made at some point,but not sure what material to use.

[A.Grail]

Worth a try!
:)

[A.Grail]

Hi peter,

Will get a sexy arm board made at some point,but not sure what material to use.
Ally / Delrin /Ally sandwich?

[Ammonite Audio]

Here's my old TD-124, fitted here with Audio Note Arm3 and IQ3 cartridge. The plinth and armboard are from Jim Campbell in the States. Both main and top platters are new from Swissonor; and the main bearing is a Schopper (bought second-hand). The old thing sounds far better than it has any right to - I can't help feeling that no turntable designer nowadays would start with such a complicated thing, but since it does sound so good, I can forgive its foibles and demands for routine maintenance. It works well with other tonearms, eg the Jelco SA-750D and Linn Ittok which get swapped in as I see fit.

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s301/hugocass/IMGP1374_zpsad2674c2.jpg

It could do with some cosmetic work to tidy up the paintwork, but that can wait, perhaps until it gets married up with the rather lovely original 1960s Ortofon plinth that I have for it (with bronze Ortofon badge on the front).

Of all the turntables in my armoury, which include a PL-71, Linn Axis, Kenwood KD-770D, Lenco GL75, Logic DM101, the Thorens is the one that I will never sell.

[chelsea]

New deck makers could learn a lot from some of the simple but useful things on a 124.
Always liked the levelling wheels,clutch and spirit level.

[The Barbarian]

'TD124' was the best imho back then. work or art.

[petrat]

I hate to think what three is, then... :o

Yes, well .... remind me, what's your current TT count?
You can probably get help you know ... http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsive_hoarding

:D

[surayne]

http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m633/surayne/Lenco%20restoration/IMG_20140318_080521.jpg (http://s1135.photobucket.com/user/surayne/media/Lenco%20restoration/IMG_20140318_080521.jpg.html)

My GL75 in a slate plinth. SME 3012 Series 2 and a Denon DL103.

[The Barbarian]

http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m633/surayne/Lenco%20restoration/IMG_20140318_080521.jpg (http://s1135.photobucket.com/user/surayne/media/Lenco%20restoration/IMG_20140318_080521.jpg.html)

My GL75 in a slate plinth. SME 3012 Series 2 and a Denon DL103.

Ever thought about getting that Platter lip machined off & polished? If it's a '75' with the drilled balancing try get an earlier one from say a 'L70'

[Ammonite Audio]

Ever thought about getting that Platter lip machined off & polished? If it's a '75' with the drilled balancing try get an earlier one from say a 'L70'

Or do what David Brook did and use a precisely cut black rubber band to disguise the platter step

[DiveDeepDog]

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3888/14733248948_974d87fb92_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/orVKBA)DSC_5197 (https://flic.kr/p/orVKBA) by levs the diver (https://www.flickr.com/people/49381909@N08/), on Flickr

Yes, I know my platters off a Lenco, I forgot it when I delivered the other one :doh:
Perhaps more interesting was the comparison between carts (the only difference), I certainly wouldn't swap my AT33 for the 2M Black :sofa:

[A.Grail]

Some pics of various 301's we've had / have here: http://uk.pinterest.com/audiograilgarra/audio-grail-garrard-301-turntables/
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f298/furylovelolly/c3ed89b45969c9bd500282cca1a1b9b6.jpg (http://s49.photobucket.com/user/furylovelolly/media/c3ed89b45969c9bd500282cca1a1b9b6.jpg.html)
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f298/furylovelolly/c03a67089bf38e69c1e4f15051ccca37.jpg (http://s49.photobucket.com/user/furylovelolly/media/c03a67089bf38e69c1e4f15051ccca37.jpg.html)
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f298/furylovelolly/bcb80deb8ff80e5b39a465cb6943ce6f.jpg (http://s49.photobucket.com/user/furylovelolly/media/bcb80deb8ff80e5b39a465cb6943ce6f.jpg.html)
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f298/furylovelolly/a85b2134beaf6168aca13f41a15015d7.jpg (http://s49.photobucket.com/user/furylovelolly/media/a85b2134beaf6168aca13f41a15015d7.jpg.html)
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f298/furylovelolly/494baa14a26e0a8d5924a263368e527c.jpg (http://s49.photobucket.com/user/furylovelolly/media/494baa14a26e0a8d5924a263368e527c.jpg.html)
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f298/furylovelolly/2bb3e8cf3dd332387aa042619cc5d00c.jpg (http://s49.photobucket.com/user/furylovelolly/media/2bb3e8cf3dd332387aa042619cc5d00c.jpg.html)
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f298/furylovelolly/0ef825a8ce88f428729f6ebf8a220681.jpg (http://s49.photobucket.com/user/furylovelolly/media/0ef825a8ce88f428729f6ebf8a220681.jpg.html)
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f298/furylovelolly/730eb67aa24fc4e7155d973b13b5bb98.jpg (http://s49.photobucket.com/user/furylovelolly/media/730eb67aa24fc4e7155d973b13b5bb98.jpg.html)

[jaym481]

My 401:
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee79/Old_School_BMW/Audio/DSC_0001_zpsfb88b310.jpg
Slate and ply plinth by Mark (DiveDeepDog). Pic doesn't do it justice.

[Reffc]

My 401. Deck was recently fully stripped and rebuilt with all springs etc replaced. Spins up to speed within about a second and runs silently which is pretty impressive for a 42 year old deck! Arm is a Hadcock GH 242 Cryo export. Cart is a Nagaoka MP-500. Wonderful sounding combination.

http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n577/24pacman/Hifi/_MG_9039_zpsdca1f013.jpg

http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n577/24pacman/Hifi/_MG_9040_zpseb1beddb.jpg

[DiveDeepDog]

Santa's been early

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7532/15762752169_c945808d3d_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/q1Ue48)IMG_1683 (https://flic.kr/p/q1Ue48) by levs the diver (https://www.flickr.com/people/49381909@N08/), on Flickr


Hmm, should I post it in the belters bit :confused:

[Barry]

Santa's been early

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7532/15762752169_c945808d3d_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/q1Ue48)IMG_1683 (https://flic.kr/p/q1Ue48) by levs the diver (https://www.flickr.com/people/49381909@N08/), on Flickr


Hmm, should I post it in the belters bit :confused:

I understand your confusion, but since the platter of the TD124 is driven by an idler-wheel, the TT is classed as being an idler-drive. This is despite a belt being used in the chain to the motor, to decouple any motor vibration from reaching the platter.

Nice example BTW. :)

Regards
Barry (owner of three TD124s)

[nuff]

My 401 in a Diy plinth. 2x 18mm MDF top plate and American black walnut.

http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo14/nuff3rs/a33a914c7c3c53e85974a8f9c3a8f99a_zpsgklmyiqs.jpg

http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo14/nuff3rs/61616f5c02e3c83ec0d1235f69bc528f_zpsjucwq730.jpg

http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo14/nuff3rs/fd70cd0e165ebd42334aff74dda99efa_zpsynpxldy1.jpg

http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo14/nuff3rs/6c8cbc17d644e7b9ba0fc850d4b3c45f_zps6e24jnim.jpg

[petrat]

The big plinth in post 82 went some time ago to Take5, and was replaced by a Russ Collinson creation that can accomodate a 12 inch arm.

http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff384/petrat56/PetratHiFi%202013/401%20011_zpsbmvofq6q.jpg (http://s1233.photobucket.com/user/petrat56/media/PetratHiFi%202013/401%20011_zpsbmvofq6q.jpg.html)

http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff384/petrat56/PetratHiFi%202013/401%20014_zpslpz4xayi.jpg (http://s1233.photobucket.com/user/petrat56/media/PetratHiFi%202013/401%20014_zpslpz4xayi.jpg.html)

[starbuck]

The big plinth in post 82 went some time ago to Take5, and was replaced by a Russ Collins creation that can accomodate a 12 inch arm.

http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff384/petrat56/PetratHiFi%202013/401%20011_zpsbmvofq6q.jpg (http://s1233.photobucket.com/user/petrat56/media/PetratHiFi%202013/401%20011_zpsbmvofq6q.jpg.html)

http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff384/petrat56/PetratHiFi%202013/401%20014_zpslpz4xayi.jpg (http://s1233.photobucket.com/user/petrat56/media/PetratHiFi%202013/401%20014_zpslpz4xayi.jpg.html)

That looks lovely! It has also pretty much decided whether I will flush mount my 401 when I get a plinth made, as I'm loving the clean lines of the arm fitted straight to the plinth top without a spacer, and the plinth finish too. I assume it is a layered birch ply type, with some superb looking veneering on top?

[petrat]

Yes, Chris ... layered plywood with macassar ebony veneer.
Russ Collinson has his website at http://layers-of-beauty.co.uk ... see the gallery for inspiration.

[The Grand Wazoo]

http://i.imgur.com/GTGspVyh.jpg#1BLKJ

http://i.imgur.com/wb6JZF6h.jpg#1BLKJ

http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv198/mischab1/DSCF1574.jpg

http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv198/mischab1/DSCF6093.jpg

http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv198/mischab1/DSCF6098.jpg

http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv198/mischab1/DSCF6101.jpg

[Marco]

Ah, so you eventually finished that project! :eyebrows:

Looks great. How's it all sounding? I imagine that it offers an interesting and alternative 'flavour' to your Gyro.

Marco.

[Ali Tait]

Very nice Chris.

[walpurgis]

I like the look of that. Great stuff.

I've owned the G99 and G88. Excellent turntables. I could be tempted to get another. :)

[Barry]

Looking good Chris. Love the solid 'Bastin'-style plinth.

Seems a long time ago when I handed over the deck in a certain car park in North Wales. Did you ever get the Utracraft arm up to spec? And have you abandoned the Decca?

Regards
Barry

[petrat]

Black walnut .... would match my speakers, that would :D
Lovely job, Chris.

[The Grand Wazoo]

Thanks, it is a lovely thing - but it's bloody massive (far too big for a normal sized rack) and it weighs a tonne!
The plinth wasn't made by me but a gent called Carl who is a member of the Lenco Heaven forum (Carlsworkshop) but also sometimes trades via Ebay. He worked like a star to make the plinth and also bent over backwards to troubleshoot it. The walnut is nice and I'm very happy with it - it took a lot of work to settle on a finish that I was happy and I think the result was worth the effort.
The deck sounds fantastic.
I managed to find another Zeta for a good price and, having a spare Koetsu Black, I couldn't resist having the same arm and cartridge combination as the one on my Gyrodec. The Goldring sits beside the Gyro and they are both used as much as each other, neither being better, just different.
The Ultracraft still isn't up and running yet but it will be sometime soon hopefully. The Decca, despite sounding utterly compelling, was not practical because we live in a rather dusty house and no matter how hard I tried I couldn't keep it clean enough to stop having to wait on tenterhooks for the next chance to jump up mid-side to clean it again. I haven't ruled out revisiting Deccas in the future.

[A.Grail]

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f298/furylovelolly/11218250_1109528349064746_683647040469788803_o.jpg (http://s49.photobucket.com/user/furylovelolly/media/11218250_1109528349064746_683647040469788803_o.jpg .html)
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f298/furylovelolly/11895306_1168010253216555_8852641828746788962_o.jp g (http://s49.photobucket.com/user/furylovelolly/media/11895306_1168010253216555_8852641828746788962_o.jp g.html)
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f298/furylovelolly/11791986_1157780100906237_8592993306834222298_o.jp g (http://s49.photobucket.com/user/furylovelolly/media/11791986_1157780100906237_8592993306834222298_o.jp g.html)
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f298/furylovelolly/12493486_1257653017585611_362770109012339869_o.jpg (http://s49.photobucket.com/user/furylovelolly/media/12493486_1257653017585611_362770109012339869_o.jpg .html)

More pics here: https://uk.pinterest.com/audiograilgarra/audio-grail-garrard-301-turntables/

[Barry]

What is the arm in the third picture (with the BBC 301)?

[A.Grail]

What is the arm in the third picture (with the BBC 301)?

Hi Barry, it's an Audio Creative Groovemaster - Nice arm, particularly at the price

[Slippershod]

lovely decks. nice to see the Don Rendell and Ian Carr lp :)

[helma]

Hi Barry, it's an Audio Creative Groovemaster - Nice arm, particularly at the price

Is it a modern arm, it looks awful lot like some Grace arms from the past?

EDIT: Oh wait, wrong arm... apparently I can't count to three

[pure sound]

For all the bling & over engineered turntables at Munich, this was the one I'd have chosen to take home from from the show last week.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6vY7oTdql8

[Virtual-Symmetry]

lovely decks. nice to see the Don Rendell and Ian Carr lp :)

Ian Carr was da man..

[A.Grail]

Avec the new Audio Creative Groovemaster MKII tonearm
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f298/furylovelolly/JAZZ%20RECS%20SIGSOUND/SIG%20SOUND%20OCT%2014/SIG%20SOUND%202015/AG%20SEPT%2015/AG%202016/DSCN5674.jpg (http://s49.photobucket.com/user/furylovelolly/media/JAZZ%20RECS%20SIGSOUND/SIG%20SOUND%20OCT%2014/SIG%20SOUND%202015/AG%20SEPT%2015/AG%202016/DSCN5674.jpg.html)

[Jimbo]

Very nice and seems to compliment the 301 aesthetically.

[Barry]

Looks a little like the EMT 997 ("Banana") arm. http://www.fabtech.de/en_emt_tone-arms.html

[A.Grail]

Looks a little like the EMT 997 ("Banana") arm. http://www.fabtech.de/en_emt_tone-arms.html
Yes, the Ac guys are taking the cues from the golden era. It's a handy arm that comes with a range of counter weights to balance a range of carts. You may also note the protruding appendage which is a magnetic micrometer bias control which is novel. The bearing is surprisingly good and set up simple as the top of the bearing housing has a dimple for protractors... good fun

[Marco]

Avec the new Audio Creative Groovemaster MKII tonearm
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f298/furylovelolly/JAZZ%20RECS%20SIGSOUND/SIG%20SOUND%20OCT%2014/SIG%20SOUND%202015/AG%20SEPT%2015/AG%202016/DSCN5674.jpg (http://s49.photobucket.com/user/furylovelolly/media/JAZZ%20RECS%20SIGSOUND/SIG%20SOUND%20OCT%2014/SIG%20SOUND%202015/AG%20SEPT%2015/AG%202016/DSCN5674.jpg.html)

Stunning, Matt! :drool: :drool:

Of course, you can't beat having a protruding appendage!! :eyebrows:

Marco.

[CornishPasty]

Sorry but that headshell doesn't do it for me.

[Marco]

I know where you're coming from, Ralph. Something chunkier and higher-mass would've been more in keeping with things, but those Orsonic headshells are so eminently tweakable (on all parameters), and as a result maximise the sonic performance from partnering cartridges.

They may look a little 'weedy' and skeletal, but sonically, they're the dog's bollocks! :)

Marco.

[CornishPasty]

To these eyes it just looks too hi tech for such a classic deck. I'm liking the SME sliding mount though.

[Virtual-Symmetry]

I know what you are saying Ralph. I find things like that very odd. Putting a modern Headshell on a Vintage arm. Putting a Classic Motor unit in a modern plinth etc etc...

[A.Grail]

The Arche is quite a curious thing


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFSrethphqc

[Ammonite Audio]

The Arche is quite a curious thing

Indeed. I have one here to evaluate. It's beautifully made, with a much more robust and solid azimuth adjustment system than I've seen before that also gives some fore/aft overhang adjustment. Its main party trick seems to be the pivoting plate to which the cartridge is bolted, so SRA can be adjusted without raising or lowering the arm pillar and thereby altering VTF. It's quite heavy at 18g, so definitely good for lowish compliance cartridges like the Miyajimas.

Excepting its highish mass, the Arche headshell is as 'universal' as you're going to get, but it's fantastically expensive, and that's its main problem.

[A.Grail]

Indeed. I have one here to evaluate. It's beautifully made, with a much more robust and solid azimuth adjustment system than I've seen before that also gives some fore/aft overhang adjustment. Its main party trick seems to be the pivoting plate to which the cartridge is bolted, so SRA can be adjusted without raising or lowering the arm pillar and thereby altering VTF. It's quite heavy at 18g, so definitely good for lowish compliance cartridges like the Miyajimas.

Excepting its highish mass, the Arche headshell is as 'universal' as you're going to get, but it's fantastically expensive, and that's its main problem.

It works well with Koetsus, IO's etc, it certainly is a heavy headshell and can stretch some vintage arms balance capabilities. It is possible to note settings for different carts / arms too. To these leathery ears the Arche makes a notable difference. The build quality of the headshell is the finest I've personally owned.

[Ammonite Audio]

It works well with Koetsus, IO's etc, it certainly is a heavy headshell and can stretch some vintage arms balance capabilities. It is possible to note settings for different carts / arms too. To these leathery ears the Arche makes a notable difference. The build quality of the headshell is the finest I've personally owned.

That's useful to hear - thanks for your thoughts

[SteveTheShadow]

Here's a couple of pics of my new turntable, built out of an old Lenco GL75 idler motor unit by my son.
He replinthed it in a heavy layered MDF structure, then oak veneered it all.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7181882/shureonlenco2.jpeg


I have just fitted a brand new Shure M97eX cart to it.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7181882/shureonlenco1.jpeg
The arm is a Rega RB250 but that is going soon, to be replaced by a Mayware Formula IV
a friend has offered for a small fee.
It sounds great and has taken me right back to when I actually enjoyed vinyl; a time before I got suckered in by the flat earth bullshit and came to despise the medium with a vengeance.
It's years since I had anything analogue in my system and TBH, I'm well pleased with the results.

[jperry]

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[Marco]

Uploaded and enlarged the pics for you, James:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/aj3iYX.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/921/euKZ16.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/bwGkX4.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/ja155b.jpg

Nice table! And you're one of the few people I've seen using the 12-inch version of my own tonearm (Ortofon RS-212D). It's a superb arm... Plus, is that an EMT JSD5 cartridge I spy there, too?:)

Marco.

[Jimbo]

Gosh this thread has been dormant for so long, nice to see something tasty turn up!

[Firebottle]

This do as well?

http://i68.tinypic.com/iqx1f6.jpg

[Jimbo]

This do as well?

http://i68.tinypic.com/iqx1f6.jpg


Stunning Alan!:cool:

[RobbieGong]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/aj3iYX.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/921/euKZ16.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/bwGkX4.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/ja155b.jpg

Nicely done !!

[DiveDeepDog]

301 plinth built for a Lenco lover. Beech multiplex ply, half way house (in terms of density and weight) between birch and Panzerholz, with Corian top plate

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4909/46831336571_a1f41cd37f_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2emjQMr)IMG_4933 (https://flic.kr/p/2emjQMr) by mark leatherland (https://www.flickr.com/photos/49381909@N08/), on Flickr
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7869/46779060672_740d13fb73_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2egGUYQ)IMG_4934 (https://flic.kr/p/2egGUYQ) by mark leatherland (https://www.flickr.com/photos/49381909@N08/), on Flickr

And what I'm listening to now, new to me SME4 in a skeletal Panzerholz plinth.
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7916/46831343961_7165c2abf9_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2emjSYR)IMG_4960 (https://flic.kr/p/2emjSYR) by mark leatherland (https://www.flickr.com/photos/49381909@N08/), on Flickr

[keith1962]

Mark,
They both look very interesting! What are the differences between those two any a "standard" Baltic Birch plinth?
Keith

[Spectral Morn]

301 plinth built for a Lenco lover. Beech multiplex ply, half way house (in terms of density and weight) between birch and Panzerholz, with Corian top plate

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4909/46831336571_a1f41cd37f_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2emjQMr)IMG_4933 (https://flic.kr/p/2emjQMr) by mark leatherland (https://www.flickr.com/photos/49381909@N08/), on Flickr
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7869/46779060672_740d13fb73_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2egGUYQ)IMG_4934 (https://flic.kr/p/2egGUYQ) by mark leatherland (https://www.flickr.com/photos/49381909@N08/), on Flickr

And what I'm listening to now, new to me SME4 in a skeletal Panzerholz plinth.
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7916/46831343961_7165c2abf9_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2emjSYR)IMG_4960 (https://flic.kr/p/2emjSYR) by mark leatherland (https://www.flickr.com/photos/49381909@N08/), on Flickr

Top one looks lovely. I am looking to try a different plinth for my 401, but I would like to be able to swap arm boards, to accommodate an SME 5, Triplanar, Graham Phantom with an SME mount. The one I currently have is an open skeletal plinth, but visually I would like something more conventional.

[DiveDeepDog]

Keith, the Panzer is beech impregnated with resin, both are harder, heavier and stronger than birch ply.
I’ve only just got the sme4 and had the Panzar plinth with the right cutout, so changed 2 things at once. Difficult to say if it’s the arm or the plinth that’s responsible for the sound improvements.
In the past I’ve likened Panzer to slate, very fast sounding with no overhang to the bass, I’ve always preferred birch with Corian armboard, however the one above is the 2nd plinth I’ve made with dedicated top plate it really made my Audiomods sing. I’m erring more towards matching plinths to arm.

Neil, as above I’m finding removable armbords a compromise with my latest builds, pick one arm of have a plinth big enough for 2 is my current thinking, all subject to change of course while we learn more :-)

[Spectral Morn]

Keith, the Panzer is beech impregnated with resin, both are harder, heavier and stronger than birch ply.
I’ve only just got the sme4 and had the Panzar plinth with the right cutout, so changed 2 things at once. Difficult to say if it’s the arm or the plinth that’s responsible for the sound improvements.
In the past I’ve likened Panzer to slate, very fast sounding with no overhang to the bass, I’ve always preferred birch with Corian armboard, however the one above is the 2nd plinth I’ve made with dedicated top plate it really made my Audiomods sing. I’m erring more towards matching plinths to arm.

Neil, as above I’m finding removable armbords a compromise with my latest builds, pick one arm of have a plinth big enough for 2 is my current thinking, all subject to change of course while we learn more :-)

Interesting. I await your findings keenly.

[Fiddlefye]

N. American drive, English arm - Rek-O-Kut B-12H/Nottingham Ace Space/Benz Glider
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4352/36523724591_04cbde6161_k.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/XDtCRv)DSC_4307 (https://flic.kr/p/XDtCRv) by fiddlefye (https://www.flickr.com/photos/82699172@N00/), on Flickr

[ianlenco]

Very nice, quite surprised that arm looks so good on an old idler!

[Fiddlefye]

Very nice, quite surprised that arm looks so good on an old idler!

It sounds really good there as well. VTA was a near thing to set up as with the Glider it worked out perfectly, but the arm is set absolutely as low as it can go. I'm afraid poor Fletcher would be rolling in his grave if he knew what sort of table his arm ended up on. A B-12H (with a motor big enough to run a washing machine) is a far cry from a Nottingham.

[Marco]

Lovely stuff, Bruce! Always liked the old Reks, as they were 'proper' turntables, with a long history in the broadcasting industry, so I can imagine that combination sounds very good indeed.

How would you describe the fundamental sound of the turntable itself? I'd imagine it has plenty of 'heft' and drive, in the bass:)

Marco.

[Wegamus]

https://i.imgur.com/Qr5qbT8.jpg

First evening with my Audio Grail-restored 1959 Garrard 301 tonight. It’s in a Russ Collinson walnut/birch plinth with recess for the deck and a second cutout for a future dedicated mono arm. The arm fitted now is a Timestep T-612 with titanium arm tube. On the end of it is an Ortofon SPU Classic GMII. Currently playing Swiss Movement by Les McCann & Eddie Harris, and sounding fantastic. I’m borrowing an Ikeda tonearm cable, which goes into the Ortofon T20 MkII and Aurorasound VIDA phono stage, then my Leben and Harbeth pairing. Really pleased with this setup!

[scotty38]

Just got my hands on this....

https://kcnvwq.db.files.1drv.com/y4mfvAxo03iaNGpw9sTRSUU3ZRBfZ_F8sadam4yaOIM3ellED1 TP6gY5H52uEUbPYJSCkM6nwyz8F5Zhop0pSZ6DYL-MNbaaCBCBFPy_EA2JIG6AmN1Pr7zrYbQgyaTJ4w_sXs0XqAG8Y bCwIwCB9TEQ9suPVBcDYdY-qi8po_7ETmgbAfJjexQ6KE9Sny7rvL3_NYU0-vscuibOo_ovqlrSw?width=2592&height=4608&cropmode=none

[ost_]

https://www.dropbox.com/s/i6vcvu0e61p8cyt/Photo%2018-01-2020%2C%2008%2035%2012.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ow37slmep3i8c6x/Photo%2018-01-2020%2C%2008%2034%2010.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ahjsz8r5uaw23ue/Photo%2018-01-2020%2C%2008%2032%2019.jpg?dl=0

Back in action :)

Edit: sorry, I don't know how to embed the photos.

[oldius]

Just got my hands on this....

https://kcnvwq.db.files.1drv.com/y4mfvAxo03iaNGpw9sTRSUU3ZRBfZ_F8sadam4yaOIM3ellED1 TP6gY5H52uEUbPYJSCkM6nwyz8F5Zhop0pSZ6DYL-MNbaaCBCBFPy_EA2JIG6AmN1Pr7zrYbQgyaTJ4w_sXs0XqAG8Y bCwIwCB9TEQ9suPVBcDYdY-qi8po_7ETmgbAfJjexQ6KE9Sny7rvL3_NYU0-vscuibOo_ovqlrSw?width=2592&height=4608&cropmode=noneI loved mine.

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[Marco]

Gorgeous stuff, Scotty! What's the arm and cartridge - Denon?:)

Marco.

[Marco]

I loved mine.


Yup, you shouldn't have sold it;)

Marco.

[Idlewithnodrive]

https://photos.app.goo.gl/7LDdqTk2JEScvsJQA

[ost_]

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/41xnOHAaDYq_CubqYHdCZkcNsiXWL9VnRoIfPG3iim-iLeAuwFcgg7AzsbeEQwTQNf_99HnMNS95GjGwT7VYXYVmU9p0d PDfhyTzyltoDqCui91w3JEICnfpZ0BIZ0omcNd_M520iw=w240 0

Think I've sussed this out!

[Idlewithnodrive]

https://i.imgur.com/K6pIr5d.jpg

[scotty38]

Nice, I think I recognise that G99, is it one of Ant’s the same as mine is?

[Idlewithnodrive]

Nice, I think I recognise that G99, is it one of Ant’s the same as mine is?

Thanks Martin, yes, it's one of Ants :)

[scotty38]

Gorgeous stuff, Scotty! What's the arm and cartridge - Denon?:)

Marco.

Sorry only just saw this. That was a Neat G36 arm and an AT33EV but it now looks like this with a Jelco and SPU:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49080530282_50edc8ff28_h.jpg

[Idlewithnodrive]

Sorry only just saw this. That was a Neat G36 arm and an AT33EV but it now looks like this with a Jelco and SPU:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49080530282_50edc8ff28_h.jpg

That's rather special looking, too :thumbsup:

[scotty38]

Thanks Martin, yes, it's one of Ants :)

Thought I “knew” it, enjoy!

[scotty38]

That's rather special looking, too :thumbsup:

Cheers Ant did a great job of the plinth and setup.....